What Is The Worst Genre Of Cinema?

[Hollow]

My other half would agree with you, but I love them to pieces. Watched Singing In The Rain the other night and it was a joyous occasion. I've no time for anything Lloyd-Webber-esque, but anything with a sense of fun about itself is a must watch for me.

I'm with several others who mentioned Westerns, just can't get on with them half of the time, I watched The Searchers a couple of decades back and was bored senseless by it, and that's how I find the majority of them. There's a couple of exceptions, but one has to get rave reviews for me to even give it half a chance.

If it wasn't for the work of Sergio Leone I'd agree with you...but those films are amazing.

Yeah musicals are dogshit...Blues Brothers...that's about it...the South Park film too I suppose.

[Spiteface]

Superhero films

I'll say this about them - Marvel has a lot to bloody answer for, because now everyone wants a "cinematic universe" even Transformers. TRANSFORMERS.It's become a detriment to the films now, because it's all about building a universe, rather than making a decent film. I noticed it with the "Phase 3" Marvel films out so far, and if it becomes where I have to see every other film for the ones I actually care about to make sense, I'm out, because like fuck am I gonna sit through Guardians of the pissing Galaxy.

Unless Marvel does a new deal with Toei and they do a Battle Fever J movie. If that happens, I'm in.http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Earth-79203Also, pandering to the "Young Adult" market just waters everything down to the point they may as well not have bothered. So all of that can fuck right off. Even the Hunger Games, which I don't mind.

[samadriel]

. I noticed it with the "Phase 3" Marvel films out so far, and if it becomes where I have to see every other film for the ones I actually care about to make sense, I'm out, because like fuck am I gonna sit through Guardians of the pissing Galaxy.

If you want to sit through any Marvel film, it should be Guardians of the Galaxy.

[Sam]

My other half would agree with you, but I love them to pieces. Watched Singing In The Rain the other night and it was a joyous occasion. I've no time for anything Lloyd-Webber-esque, but anything with a sense of fun about itself is a must watch for me.

I'm with several others who mentioned Westerns, just can't get on with them half of the time, I watched The Searchers a couple of decades back and was bored senseless by it, and that's how I find the majority of them. There's a couple of exceptions, but one has to get rave reviews for me to even give it half a chance.

Assassination of Jesse James?
Unforgiven?
McCabe and Mrs Miller?
Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada?
True Grit (Coens)?
Meek's Cutoff?
Once Upon a Time in the West?
There Will be Blood?

[Spiteface]

If you want to sit through any Marvel film, it should be Guardians of the Galaxy.

I did. I failed to see what other people loved about it so much. Certainly didn't like it enough to want more of it.

[Bhazor]

Those nineties films where dogs and children fight adults. Where the main villain gets a lemon pie in the mush and falls into a big toilet. And then theres a reaction shot of a monkey covering its eyes.

3 Ninjas? More like 3 annoying cunts who don't get the kick in the face they're crying out for.



Look at how shit that is.

[thecuriousorange]

While I agree, I must defend Home Alone.
The genre you mean are all Home Alone rip-offs anyway. Especially Baby's Day Out.

[Hank Venture]

Comedies. A shitty comedy is worse than a shitty film of any other genre.

[newbridge]

Halloween is a very good film. Are you including Cronenbergs horror films in this? Or George Romero?

Cronenberg doesn't really fit in my conception of the horror genre (nor does The Thing, unless Alien is a horror movie too by that standard). I respect what George Romero was doing as an independent filmmaker but zombie movies are shit. 100% of them.

[Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth]

...unless Alien is a horror movie too by that standard

Of course it is.

[newbridge]

Of course it is.

It's a suspenseful sci-fi movie, I don't think it falls within the mainstream notion of "horror"

[Paaaaul]

Of course it does.
It's a horror film in a sci-fi setting.

[Hollow]

It's a suspenseful sci-fi movie, I don't think it falls within the mainstream notion of "horror"

Of course it's a horror film, just cause it's set in space?

Monster with a cock in its mouth...killing people by penetrating their skulls with said appendage...horrific?

Admit it...it's just snobbery with you isn't it?

You have a set idea of what constitutes a horror film and you're not budging.

Night of The Living Dead is not shit...Dawn is not shit...Day is not shit...Return of the Living Dead...not shit...do you see?

[newbridge]

Alright you pedantic dunces, call it whatever you want. My original entry for worst genre of cinema is slasher-esque "horror" - please retract good movies that are not actually horror but that you will probable declare are horror such as Alien or The Shining. Thank you.

[newbridge]

Night of The Living Dead is not shit...Dawn is not shit...Day is not shit...Return of the Living Dead...not shit...do you see?

Shit movies for shit people.

[Hollow]

Cronenberg doesn't really fit in my conception of the horror genre (nor does The Thing, unless Alien is a horror movie too by that standard). I respect what George Romero was doing as an independent filmmaker but zombie movies are shit. 100% of them.

You clearly have not seen any of Cronenberg's early work...pure horror man...pure horror.

[Hollow]

Shit movies for shit people.

Hahahaha...snobby twat.

[Paaaaul]

Not a fan of Trent L. Strauss?

[Hollow]

Newbridge please stop talking.

You talk bollocks.

[Hollow]

Alright you pedantic dunces, call it whatever you want. My original entry for worst genre of cinema is slasher-esque "horror" - please retract good movies that are not actually horror but that you will probable declare are horror such as Alien or The Shining. Thank you.

LOL...you said The Shining WAS a horror just one page back...please stop trolling you worthy knobhead.

[Puce Moment]

American Werewolf in London
Suspiria
Possession
The Innocents
The Devil's Backbone
The Others
Let the Right One In

Plus tons more...

[newbridge]

Hahahaha...snobby twat.

"Snobbery" is always the first retort of the dunderhead with no taste, as if I am being some pretentious elitist for defending fucking Alien. If you like crappy movies just own it, buddy!

Not a fan of Trent L. Strauss?

Good point, though I consider Strauss "extreme cinema" which is a distinct genre.

[newbridge]

LOL...you said The Shining WAS a horror just one page back...please stop trolling you worthy knobhead.

I specifically said my definition of "horror" excluded The Shining. Do you feel like maybe your cinematic insecurity is showing in how FURIOUS you are becoming?

Horror is c-r-a-p

[Glebe]

If you want to sit through any Marvel film, it should be Guardians of the Galaxy.

Well you've also got the X-Men films (apart from The Last Stand), the first two Raimi Spider-Mans (particularly the second), The Avengers and Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Oh go on then, and Iron Man 3.

[Puce Moment]

Horror is c-r-a-p

That's that sorted. Lock thread.

[Nobody Soup]

Of course it is.

the "is alien horror or sci-fi?" debate is quite good, I think. we should do that.

I think the 4 hour long argument me and two friends had ended in 2 to 1  in favour of sci-fi, after being 2 to 1 in favour in horror but given that three 24 year olds wandering around a golf course at 2am is in no way an industry approved method of deciding stuff I'd say the debate is still on.

[Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth]

I'd say it's more horror than it is sci-fi. At its core, the plot is about a bunch of people being murdered by a malevolent sod. That it happens in space is essentially window dressing.

If I recall correctly, an early draft of the script was set aboard a second world war bomber plane and the alien was some sort of gremlin.

[Hank Venture]

It's horror, obviously. A horror movie set in cowboy times doesn't automatically become a Western, it's still a horror movie. Setting/location isn't a requirement for a horror movie.

[newbridge]

A truly pointless debate, but even adopting a broad definition of "horror" I would argue the sci-fi elements of Alien are more central than the horror elements. You could have a similar movie without the brutal murder aspect, but if you removed the sci-fi elements (and had it be a gremlin on a plane or whatever) it would have been shit.

To return to my earlier worst-genre nomination, I thought of a movie that is great and is undeniably "horror" (The Exorcist), but once again I think everyone knows what I mean when I refer to a certain genre of modern horror that more or less began with Halloween, extended through the slasher films of the 80s and 90s, and has mutated into the torture porn and jump-scare films of the 2000s/2010s. Colloquially known as "horror," that genre is total shit.

[Puce Moment]

...but once again I think everyone knows what I mean when I refer to a certain genre of modern horror that more or less began with Halloween, extended through the slasher films of the 80s and 90s, and has mutated into the torture porn and jump-scare films of the 2000s/2010s. Colloquially known as "horror," that genre is total shit.

What a bizarrely subjective view of the horror genre presented as objective truth.

Your homework is to read some Rick Altman and Barry Keith Grant and get back to me.