#TonyTheTigerGate

[Ambient Sheep]

You're friends with someone who used to be a little girl? Mmm bit dodgy mate.

There's a lot of it about.

[Big Jack McBastard]

I really don't get the whole Furry thing.

It appears to be a regression to childhood mixed with an abdication of 'human' sexual feeling. They've jumped into their suits in an effort to escape the real world because they've never grown up and human sexuality terrifies them, as humans they've had no luck/have priced themselves out of the fuck-market by being either hygiene challenged man-children, ugly as sin, epic pervs, genuinely mentally challenged, or a mix thereof.

It's just a bad idea that probably seeds when impressionable kids watch cartoons but gets out of control when they get hold of a little money and there's no-one around to tell them they'll be compounding their problems and making a fucking laughing stock of themselves.

[Ambient Sheep]

I'd tend to agree with much of that, although you DO realise that furries can be, and indeed often are, women too, right?

However I'd also suggest that it's not to be confused with people (again, usually women) who wear butt-plugs attached to furry tails on kinky nights out, just because they find it cute, and the physical sensation rather naughty.

No, doesn't do that much for me either, but I'm surprised at what a growing trend it is, and as far as I can see, has little to do with the furry "subculture" (about which I admit I know very little).

[Steven]

3, 1, 4, 2, 5, 6.

That's not an order of attractiveness, that's how many times I want to punch each of them.

Looks like Disney are carrying on with their zoophilia indoctrinating ways, going on from the amount of confused children they baited with Foxy Robin:



In Zootopia.

[checkoutgirl]

Or is the furries in their wolf suits and ties?

It's the furries. It's always the furries. The choice could be Idi Amin or the furries and I'd still pick the furries. No good can come from furries. It's just plain wrong. Why anyone in their right mind could condone furries is beyond me. They're just trying to ruin sex for the rest of us.

Don't let them.

Next you'll have 55 year old men dressing up as babies and wanking in nappies. This must stop.

[Smeraldina Rima]

I think furries are fans of anthropomorphic animal art and characters. Not many of them have the costumes and the ones that do aren't all interested in sexualising the costumes. Is the problem with erotic furry fandom mostly about peculiarity or is it a moral panic, like it might lead to bestiality?

[Steven]

I think furries are fans of anthropomorphic animal art and characters. Not many of them have the costumes and the ones that do aren't all interested in sexualising the costumes. Is the problem with erotic furry fandom mostly about peculiarity or is it a moral panic, like it might lead to bestiality?

I don't think there's any real bestiality element to it at all, really. Isn't it just basically people that are so sexually uncomfortable/evasive that they like to concentrate it on a 'particular interest' so they can mingle together going on about My Little Pony or their Furry costume shite as a vague interest to attempt to socialise.. rather  than y'know.. saying let's fuck.

[Smeraldina Rima]

No, and I didn't mean to suggest that there is, but there might still be a perception of a bestiality element. I'm trying to understand (given the antipathy for them) if there are moral objections or only squeamishness. Perhaps instead of squeamishness I could say aesthetic objections - like it seems inappropriate to mix sex with cartoon animal-people even if it doesn't hurt anyone.

Your second point is mainly deriding them for being losers. It seems like that was Big Jack McBastard's point too: They are ugly, mentally unwell, unhygienic and immature people who worsen their status with a hobby that involves them in a small community but takes them further away from ordinary society. If you were to put me in that situation, I would be tempted to remain in my small happy community rather than try to win over a society that held all of those other things against me.

The hygiene seems like one of the easier to control things on that list, but coincidentally, the only furry I've ever known had severe problems with personal hygiene as well as a skin problem called vitiligo which made him look very strange. I think it's possible that his skin condition was connected with his excessive sweating. He always smelled terrible and everyone at uni hated him for it, didn't want him around because it was too disgusting. When I asked him about it, he said he knew but couldn't help it. I asked if he tried showering twice a day and he said that he did. I asked if he thought of trying three times and he said that it wasn't worth it, he looked so strange, smelled bad, what was the point in all that effort for other people not to smell him. Then people found him looking at furry porn on the computers and started taking the piss out of him for that. I don't know why I tell this story. I don't think all furries have really difficult lives or that being a furry is necessarily a terrible thing. I don't know why everyone hates them so much.

[Glebe]

coincidentally, the only furry I've ever known had severe problems with personal hygiene as well as a skin problem called vitiligo which made him look very strange.

It's stuff like this that reminds you this is the greatest forum ever.

[Wet Blanket]

I saw a group of furries out bowling. Just bowling like it weren't no thing, but in really elaborate animal costumes. At the time I thought they were just dickheads in football mascot costumes, but in retrospect I think they were these furries you get these days.

They were shit at bowling, but the costumes were really good. Also they were only teenagers and obviously from the lower echelons of the brutal playground hierarchy, so fair play to them I say.

[chand]

Discriminating against Furries is the one example where I'm happy to be on the Wrong Side of History.

Like all niche sexual preferences it's basically fine as long as everyone involved is consenting. If two people want to roleplay as Sonic and Tails when they rim each other then fair enough. However, sending explicitly sexual messages to a non-consenting recipient is really not on. Tony the Tiger isn't a furry, he's a cartoon promotional animal who's just out there trying to keep his cereal business profitable.

[Glebe]

Like all niche sexual preferences it's basically fine as long as everyone involved is consenting. If two people want to roleplay as Sonic and Tails when they rim each other then fair enough. However, sending explicitly sexual messages to a non-consenting recipient is really not on. Tony the Tiger isn't a furry, he's a cartoon promotional animal who's just out there trying to keep his cereal business profitable.

What if you want to be a furry but you're a bit uneasy about even wearing the costume? You'd be surrounded by foxes and bears and various animals rubbing against you and coaxing you on, while standing in your civvies with your arms folded going "Not furry, just curious." Or something I didn't really think it out.

[Steven]

I don't think all furries have really difficult lives or that being a furry is necessarily a terrible thing. I don't know why everyone hates them so much.

I don't think I hate them, myself.. not sure if everyone on here is joking like I am. I'm just using hyperbole to try and be slightly humorous about it.. I think being so over the top in hating something rather innocuous is funny. But yeah, there is a general derision of Furries and Bronies etc, I'd imagine it does give out an impression of general creepiness as after all the interest in cartoons and dressing up is a very childlike aspect and mixing that in with sexual stuff just bleeds into a lot of notions of paedophilia etc. Also the fact they're sort of hiding themselves in these costumes gives off the notion of self-hatred, but then again we have actors who pretend to be other people for a living and we give them awards, human sociality and emotion.. it is all a miasma of conflicting nonsense, really.

[Glebe]

Furries and Bronies

To think that it used to be mods and rockers and punks and skins. Mental.

[checkoutgirl]

Is the problem with erotic furry fandom mostly about peculiarity or is it a moral panic, like it might lead to bestiality?

No, you're muddying the waters by pointing the blame at the non furries when it should be pointed at furries. And it's not fear either. It's disgust with maybe a dash of pity. Pity the poor fucks who can only express their sexuality in such a pathetic and twisted way. Disgust because that is pretty much the only appropriate response.

The one thing that annoys me about political correctness is when people get confused and think humans only being able being able to get sexually aroused by looking at foxes is completely normal and just like being gay or something.

It's not. These people must be scorned and shunned or they'll think it's fine to masturbate looking at cartoons of rabbits. Loads of them already do and it's our fault for letting them.

[checkoutgirl]

Like all niche sexual preferences it's basically fine as long as everyone involved is consenting.

Disagree, what about adult babies? Surely you can't agree with that? It's pathetic.

[Glebe]

Disagree, what about adult babies? Surely you can't agree with that? It's pathetic.

[Steven]

Wtf.

If you look at most of these Furries, they tend to wear a cravat/neckerchief/ascot type thing, a bit like:



Red in colour as well, think old Tone likes a bit of fisting when he's not busy being an anthropomorphic corporate spokesman.

[Ambient Sheep]

He always smelled terrible and everyone at uni hated him for it, didn't want him around because it was too disgusting. When I asked him about it, he said he knew but couldn't help it. I asked if he tried showering twice a day and he said that he did. I asked if he thought of trying three times and he said that it wasn't worth it, he looked so strange, smelled bad, what was the point in all that effort for other people not to smell him.

I used to work for a while with a woman - who was a lovely person and quite (visually) attractive to boot - who gave off the most awful, dreadful, smell.  Clearly not her fault, it was some strange bad metabolic thing going on.  It wasn't your usual sweat smell, it was a strange, indescribable thing that I've never really smelt anywhere else.

She'd come in in the morning smelling perfectly sweet, clearly freshly washed, including deodorant, but by lunchtime the room would be well iffy, and by going home time you'd literally be struggling to breathe.  She was rapidly given her own office, poor cow.  Luckily, because she was only on secondment to our site for a few months to help out with a particular project, this was easily explainable.

A couple of years beforehand I'd read about such things, probably in New Scientist as usual; clearly she needed some kind of biochemical analysis; probably cutting something out of her diet (as works for people who can't metabolise fish for example, although I'm pretty certain that this wasn't that).

i do hope she got it sorted out in the end.