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Cum Town Podcast

Started by Large Noise, July 08, 2016, 12:14:34 AM

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Indomitable Spirit

Quote from: sutin on March 27, 2021, 01:08:39 PM
They're definitely not apolitical, they're 100% leftists. People just get confused by the non-PC humour which tends to be associated with the right nowadays.

Adam and Stav would definitely say they're leftists,  but it's clearly an act to look cool (Adam) / get pussy (Stav). Adam is too self involved to care about other people and Stav is too dumb to understand politics.

Nick has said he doesn't identify as a leftist multiple times on the pod. His only strongly held "leftist" position is free healthcare, apart from that he's basically an apolitical, free speech guy.

pcsjwgm

Red Scare is fucking awful. Unfortunately many leftists on Twitter hate it because it's "fascist" (not really, although the hosts do come up with some contrarian reactionary takes, whether ironic or not), when the major reason it sucks is that it's dull crap produced by vacuous people with no redeeming qualities as podcasters.

fit bird

The chapo-to-fascist pipeline stuff, that's pretty much bunk, but there are actually thousands of men who became virulent misogynists after listening to Red Scare and nobody talks about this.

iamcoop

The thing I find most offensive about Red Scare is the rage inducing levels of vocal fry that render it almost completely unlistenable.

sutin

Quote from: Indomitable Spirit on March 27, 2021, 01:52:53 PM
Adam and Stav would definitely say they're leftists,  but it's clearly an act to look cool (Adam) / get pussy (Stav). Adam is too self involved to care about other people and Stav is too dumb to understand politics.

Nick has said he doesn't identify as a leftist multiple times on the pod. His only strongly held "leftist" position is free healthcare, apart from that he's basically an apolitical, free speech guy.

Well, it is true that Nick seems the least left of the three but I always got the impression that he mainly says contrary things to get an amusing rise out of people. Whenever he gets sincerely into politics, he's usually right on (from what I can remember, i've far from listened to every episode of this show).

Garam

Gwen Snyders a loon but there is something to what shes saying. I joined Cum Towns patreon one month to see how patreons work/give them a few quid for all the free content, and the Cum Town discord is just truly vile, full of pure Nazis. Also after listening to this show too much at my old job i got called out by a couple of people for doing dodgy accents, which caused some self reflection.

Show could* be really funny at times but feels pretty indefensible a lot of the time


* past tense is key here

bgmnts

Hardly surprising their fan base is full of dickheads to be honest.

AllisonSays

In case anyone cares I was thinking of Xeni Jardin - another crazy this podcast makes fascists person - and not Gwen Snyder, they're both idiots but only the former is friends with William Gibson.

Pink Gregory

Totally agree with Garam.

There's definitely a contigent of people that don't get it, but then what iabthere to 'get' ultimately?  Just the thinnest layer of 'I'm being offensive for a laugh and I don't mean it' between comedy and something really quite hateful.

Old Nehamkin

IMO the only truly indefensible cum town moment was the time they were talking about British comedy and Nick said that Peep Show wasn't as funny as That Mitchell and Webb Look.

amputeeporn

Quote from: Old Nehamkin on March 27, 2021, 11:08:08 PM
IMO the only truly indefensible cum town moment was the time they were talking about British comedy and Nick said that Peep Show wasn't as funny as That Mitchell and Webb Look.

I hate to ruin everyone's fun, but he's also professed an enduring affection for Keeping Up Appearances. I guess it's between you and your conscience if you continue listening to the show...

Pink Gregory

Nick - "That bitch always talkin about her pussy.  That's gay."

Stav - "ooooh yeah suckin' diiiiiick in tha department stooooore yeah."

Old Nehamkin

There was also the time they all made fun of Billy Connolly's stand-up while misremembering his name as "Billy Donnoly." Closest I've ever come to hitting unsubscribe.

up_the_hampipe

Quote from: Old Nehamkin on March 27, 2021, 11:08:08 PM
IMO the only truly indefensible cum town moment was the time they were talking about British comedy and Nick said that Peep Show wasn't as funny as That Mitchell and Webb Look.

Is there an episode/clip you can remember where they talk about Brit comedy? I'd be interested to hear what they enjoy.

Old Nehamkin

Quote from: up_the_hampipe on March 28, 2021, 02:47:13 PM
Is there an episode/clip you can remember where they talk about Brit comedy? I'd be interested to hear what they enjoy.

I'm afraid I can't think of any specific episodes off the top of my head, but I think the topic has come up quite a few times and these are some of the takes they've given that I can remember (I'm generally a bit obsessed with the spread of UK comedy among American comics so I always like to mentally catalogue this stuff):

- they all like Peep Show and Adam has called it his favourite ever sitcom. Nick, as mentioned above, likes it but prefers Mitchell and Webb's sketch work. I think he's specifically mentioned the sketch from TMAWL series one with the rival actors making a Sherlock Holmes film (where they alternate the roles of Holmes and Watson in every shot) as a favourite.

- Nick, as mentioned above by amputeeporn, has mentioned his love of Keeping Up Appearances several times, calling it one of his favourite sitcoms.

- Adam has definitely talked about liking Brass Eye and Chris Morris in general. I'm unsure if Nick has talked about him.

- they all seem to have a lot of affection for Mr. Bean.

- All three of them (but especially Nick) are generally very dismissive of UK stand-up and particularly the Edinburgh Fringe, which they seem to characterise as a kind of mecca for gimmicky one-man-shows rather than "real" comedy. (this is one of their most frustrating takes to me and I think they come across as weirdly belligerent and incurious on this front for people who otherwise seem quite knowledgeable about comedy.)


I'm sure they've brought lots of other stuff up through the years but that's all I can think of at the moment. Doing a search or two on that cum.tube site might possibly yield some more results.

Fun fact - Snoop Dogg is also a huge fan of Keeping Up Appearances.

up_the_hampipe

Quote from: Old Nehamkin on March 28, 2021, 03:08:52 PM
I'm afraid I can't think of any specific episodes off the top of my head, but I think the topic has come up quite a few times and these are some of the takes they've given that I can remember (I'm generally a bit obsessed with the spread of UK comedy among American comics so I always like to mentally catalogue this stuff):

- they all like Peep Show and Adam has called it his favourite ever sitcom. Nick, as mentioned above, likes it but prefers Mitchell and Webb's sketch work. I think he's specifically mentioned the sketch from TMAWL series one with the rival actors making a Sherlock Holmes film (where they alternate the roles of Holmes and Watson in every shot) as a favourite.

- Nick, as mentioned above by amputeeporn, has mentioned his love of Keeping Up Appearances several times, calling it one of his favourite sitcoms.

- Adam has definitely talked about liking Brass Eye and Chris Morris in general. I'm unsure if Nick has talked about him.

- they all seem to have a lot of affection for Mr. Bean.

- All three of them (but especially Nick) are generally very dismissive of UK stand-up and particularly the Edinburgh Fringe, which they seem to characterise as a kind of mecca for gimmicky one-man-shows rather than "real" comedy. (this is one of their most frustrating takes to me and I think they come across as weirdly belligerent and incurious on this front for people who otherwise seem quite knowledgeable about comedy.)


I'm sure they've brought lots of other stuff up through the years but that's all I can think of at the moment. Doing a search or two on that cum.tube site might possibly yield some more results.

Thanks for that. Much appreciated! I love that Nick loves KUA, just goes to show that even hardened comedy fans have their little comfort shows. I've got to say, there are a lot of British comics I like, but he does have a point about a lot of the Edinburgh stuff. I remember Patrice O'Neal lived in the UK for a bit, and he described British stand-up as "the pontifications of Ian Igglepuss" which I find devastatingly funny.

Old Nehamkin

Quote from: up_the_hampipe on March 28, 2021, 03:33:08 PM
Thanks for that. Much appreciated! I love that Nick loves KUA, just goes to show that even hardened comedy fans have their little comfort shows. I've got to say, there are a lot of British comics I like, but he does have a point about a lot of the Edinburgh stuff. I remember Patrice O'Neal lived in the UK for a bit, and he described British stand-up as "the pontifications of Ian Igglepuss" which I find devastatingly funny.

Haha! I can certainly see where they're coming from in terms of the Fringe as a cultivator of a specifically trendy, boutiquish style of comedy that often seems to prioritise structural cleverness, pathos, provocativeness etc. over actually being funny. It's their total aversion to the very idea of the UK having any sort of worthwhile stand-up heritage and their insistence that its contemporary scene has nothing of value to offer that rankles with me a bit more. Especially since - to be perfectly honest - none of them are really particularly accomplished stand-ups themselves.

iamcoop

Adam has also mentioned Alan Partridge a couple of times which the other two didn't dismiss so I'm guessing they're fans as well.

They have a real disdain for U.K. standup though although that appears to be a belligerent blanket dismissal as opposed to any concrete opinions. I can't remember them mentioning any U.K. stand ups by name, just statements like "U.K. stand up is the worst" etc.

Stav is definitely the stand up with the most potential to actually break out a forge a successful career for himself. I like the stuff I've heard from Adam but he seems quite lazy and Nick appears to be quite ordinary at it despite having done it quite prolifically since he was 16 and talking about stand up as if he's the chief authority on what's good and what isn't.

Jerzy Bondov

There was a brief period where Nick was quite active on the subreddit. Someone posted the 'This is the one thing we didn't want to happen' clip from the Brass Eye special, he said he hadn't seen it but that the clip was hilarious. I think it was linked in this thread but the subreddit has now been removed in order to stop nazism

up_the_hampipe

Quote from: Old Nehamkin on March 28, 2021, 03:43:51 PM
Haha! I can certainly see where they're coming from in terms of the Fringe as a cultivator of a specifically trendy, boutiquish style of comedy that often seems to prioritise structural cleverness, pathos, provocativeness etc. over actually being funny. It's their total aversion to the very idea of the UK having any sort of worthwhile stand-up heritage and their insistence that its contemporary scene has nothing of value to offer that rankles with me a bit more. Especially since - to be perfectly honest - none of them are really particularly accomplished stand-ups themselves.

Yeah, to me it just sounds like they haven't been exposed to enough of it. I've had to listen to plenty of people in this country just outright dismiss US stand-up because they watched 10 minutes of Joe Rogan on Netflix.

C_Larence

Doesn't Nick just hate all modern stand up?

Pdine

Quote from: Old Nehamkin on March 28, 2021, 03:08:52 PM- Nick, as mentioned above by amputeeporn, has mentioned his love of Keeping Up Appearances several times, calling it one of his favourite sitcoms.

Seem to remember Nick mentioning Brass Eye in the context of British shows which are good but ultimately lazy because they only create tiny numbers of episodes.

Quote from: chveik on March 27, 2021, 11:43:25 AM
Red Scare is pure garbage though

Yet somehow still funnier than Cum Town

amputeeporn

Quote from: Pearly-Dewdrops Drops on March 30, 2021, 04:38:55 AM
Yet somehow still funnier than Cum Town

Maybe the worst take of all time.

sutin

I listened to one episode of Red Scare out of curiousity. Yeah, they're annoying.

Schnapple

This is definitely still one of the funniest things ever when it's on form, but I stopped listening regularly a while ago. The absolute best quality about the show - Nick's willingness to make a punchline out of absolutely everything, himself included - is also it's worst, because it literally never changes and goes through infuriating periods in which it's primarily lead by his stubbornness and misanthropy, which rubs off negatively on the brain of any sane person. I tend to listen to old bits and the odd new riff on Youtube and its undeniable from being more exposed to its audience in the comments that a large portion of them are terrible. The same could be said of lots of media I enjoy, but given the nature of their sense of humour and the current cultural state of affairs, it feels a little less defensible than any other old media that couldn't possibly live up to today's standards. I didn't feel like that a while ago, but it's crept in...

Saying that, I don't think any of them are actually right-wing in any discernible sense, Stav in particular seems like a really nice person, and I do admire and appreciate Nick's creative commitment to being really funny and genuinely not giving a fuck. It would be embarrassing to hear if he was proud of himself or courting a broader audience, but it just rolls on carelessly, which is quite charming in small doses.

peanutbutter

Part of the issue is the UK comics that get US exposure. You'd like to think Stewart Lee and James Acaster would come up high on lists when people made an effort to find some English comics but it's gonna be after people like Jimmy Carr, McIntyre, Daniel Sloss... And if you were to approach it by watching a variety show (which I suspect would be how standups might approach it) it'd be just the Avalon crew on rotation again.

In the US people who should know better probably think Gervais occupies the kind of role Stewart Lee does.

amputeeporn

Catching up on these and think they're low-key going through a really good patch. The vibe seems pretty chilled out, with Nick easing up a lot on Adam and everyone sounding reasonably happy. I enjoyed their ad-read feedback from Blue Chew. One of those Blue Chew reads that riffs on so long that Nick suddenly has to say: 'Kushy Dreams!'