Author Topic: Fleabag  (Read 10831 times)

Re: Fleabag
« Reply #90 on: November 17, 2016, 01:06:36 AM »
I loved the first episode of this. It totally nailed the characters and the world they live in straight off the bat. And the only thing that made you feel for the quite unlikeable "Fleabag" was that she was coping with the death of a close friend.

But diminishing returns after that. And then when it's revealed that she's culpable in her friend's suicide was my turning off point. Although that's like the penultimate or ultimate episode.

Still, compared to something like Josh Widdecombe's "Josh" (I like to think of it as what Seinfeld would have been if it was crowdfunded) this stuff is gold standard. No wonder it's getting international attention. Rightly so.

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Re: Fleabag
« Reply #91 on: November 19, 2016, 01:13:08 PM »
What was it about the culpability reveal that disappointed you so?

Re: Fleabag
« Reply #92 on: January 02, 2017, 07:42:33 PM »
Finally read all this after watching the 6 eps in mid-Dec. 

Can't see the fuss, but it was good and there were a few genuine laughs, which I don't get from many sitcoms.  Don't think there's anything particularly new in it, but there was a surprising depth, most obv in having us rooting for a pretty dismal main character, and in the constant camera-glances which I suppose implicated you in what she was doing or at least sought your approval.  Very good cast.

Totally unmoved by the reveal which I guess means another trip to the shrink.

Just read up a bit on the Brontes after watching the BBC drama: Wuthering Heights was roundly pummeled in 1847 for being amoral, sexually-explicit and showing women how they hadn't been shown before.  I'm no feminist, but are people REALLY either getting upset or confused by a strong, sexual, amoral, sweary woman 170 years later??!!  Once again, the shrink...

Re: Fleabag
« Reply #93 on: March 04, 2019, 11:54:30 AM »
New series has started on iplayer https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p071bk3f/fleabag-series-2-episode-1

More of the same really, probably more knowing than funny - I do enjoy those 'Miranda' glances at the camera, despite knowing how lazy it is.

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Re: Fleabag
« Reply #94 on: March 04, 2019, 12:21:42 PM »
She shoulda been Doctor Who.

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Re: Fleabag
« Reply #95 on: March 04, 2019, 12:37:42 PM »
She shoulda been Doctor Who.

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Re: Fleabag
« Reply #96 on: March 04, 2019, 04:25:44 PM »
I’m very worried that Andrew Scott is playing a major character in this series. His unbearable overacting has ruined many a show and film for me.

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Re: Fleabag
« Reply #97 on: March 04, 2019, 06:51:39 PM »
Seconded.
He was good in a five minute snippet of Angels in America at the National Theatre 50 Years thing but apart from that I've always found him irritating.

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Re: Fleabag
« Reply #98 on: March 04, 2019, 09:16:00 PM »
I liked this a lot, it's a slow burn initially but the cast and script are so strong it's just fun to spend time with them.

Re: Fleabag
« Reply #99 on: March 04, 2019, 10:13:15 PM »
is she also doing the music again? aren't there rules about this sort of thing? I watched the first series & thought 'this is why BBC3 is going away'; it was competent stuff, engaging even, but still felt rather dated & sitcommy. then there's the fact that she has so much input herself, including the music- is this a good thing?

>fires up iplayer<

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Re: Fleabag
« Reply #100 on: March 04, 2019, 10:45:17 PM »
Flebag is fucking ace.

Re: Fleabag
« Reply #101 on: March 04, 2019, 10:58:07 PM »
quite enjoy this....but at the same time there's something about it that I find really fuckin annoying but cant quite put my finger on...I suspect the relentless worship-wanking over it by a procession of Guardian journo's may have clouded my view...

Re: Fleabag
« Reply #102 on: March 05, 2019, 12:18:59 AM »
Was good. Nice dynamics. Looking forwards to see how this pans out. Should really rewatch S1 really before commencing.

Re: Fleabag
« Reply #103 on: March 05, 2019, 12:29:13 AM »
Miranda for people who identify with This Life, isn't it?

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Re: Fleabag
« Reply #104 on: March 05, 2019, 03:34:03 AM »
Miranda for people who identify with This Life, isn't it?

what does this even mean?

it's fine really, a bit lazy I suppose.

Re: Fleabag
« Reply #105 on: March 05, 2019, 08:43:39 AM »
The first series was superb. I can't really fault it ("lazy" seems a particularly bizarre criticism. How the hell is it lazy?).
Whereas that began funny and grew increasingly dramatic, this seemed more dramatic from the start (and, yes, less funny). Spent most of the episode thinking it wasn't quite as good as the first series. By the end, was less sure. Will see how it pans out.
Was a bit concerned about Andrew Scott's casting at first as it looked a bit like celebrity casting. But he looks like he'll be good in it. And besides, he's no more famous than Colman or Patterson were in series one. Or indeed, than PWB is now.
A good start but a lot to live up to.

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Re: Fleabag
« Reply #106 on: March 05, 2019, 08:59:48 AM »
is she also doing the music again? aren't there rules about this sort of thing? I watched the first series & thought 'this is why BBC3 is going away'; it was competent stuff, engaging even, but still felt rather dated & sitcommy. then there's the fact that she has so much input herself, including the music- is this a good thing?

>fires up iplayer<

It was her sister who did the music for the first series, but I don't know if she's back for the second series or not.

Was a bit concerned about Andrew Scott's casting at first as it looked a bit like celebrity casting. But he looks like he'll be good in it. And besides, he's no more famous than Colman or Patterson were in series one. Or indeed, than PWB is now.
A good start but a lot to live up to.

Apparently they've been friends for ages ever since they did a play together ten years ago, and the role was written specifically for him. I thought he was decent too, and fits in with the rest of the cast really well.

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Re: Fleabag
« Reply #107 on: March 05, 2019, 11:08:28 AM »

Re: Fleabag
« Reply #108 on: March 05, 2019, 01:13:08 PM »
what does this even mean?

Posh woman in her 30s looks to camera, with sex and drugs?

Re: Fleabag
« Reply #109 on: March 05, 2019, 01:41:54 PM »
They've got a few superficial things in common but they're completely different really

Re: Fleabag
« Reply #110 on: March 05, 2019, 01:54:41 PM »
Ah right.

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Re: Fleabag
« Reply #111 on: March 05, 2019, 04:39:27 PM »
Miranda with bumsex?

https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,54624.msg2892800.html#msg2892800

Miranda glances.

(Scroll up a bit)

Ban multi page threads and ban bumping old threads.

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Re: Fleabag
« Reply #112 on: March 06, 2019, 08:15:28 PM »
I enjoyed S02E01, but (mildly) irked by a couple of bits:

Fleabag walking away when the priest started talking to her outside. Then grinning charmingly when he said, "Fuck you!" Not sure what this was doing. Highlighting some sort of "edgy" sexual tension? Later, he gives her his number: No attempt at edgy tension, like her rolling her eyes at his obvious attempt to make a connection with her.

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Re: Fleabag
« Reply #113 on: March 07, 2019, 03:39:32 AM »
Fleabag's got a weird taste in men and issues with self image (she'll tell you as much in a filthy to-camera monologue.) As such, she was probably a bit turned on by the "Fuck you".

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Re: Fleabag
« Reply #114 on: March 07, 2019, 05:42:33 AM »
I’m very worried that Andrew Scott is playing a major character in this series. His unbearable overacting has ruined many a show and film for me.

Couldn't disagree more, Birdland is one of my all time favourites, he was ace in that and his Hamlet redefined the role for a generation.

I guess different people have different tastes and all but 'overacting'?!?

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Re: Fleabag
« Reply #115 on: March 07, 2019, 06:26:29 AM »
New series has started on iplayer https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p071bk3f/fleabag-series-2-episode-1

More of the same really, probably more knowing than funny - I do enjoy those 'Miranda' glances at the camera, despite knowing how lazy it is.
I've not watched a single episode of either series, simply because of those glances at the camera that are shown so regularly in adverts.

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Re: Fleabag
« Reply #116 on: March 07, 2019, 06:50:51 AM »
Couldn't disagree more, Birdland is one of my all time favourites, he was ace in that and his Hamlet redefined the role for a generation.

I guess different people have different tastes and all but 'overacting'?!?

For me, he often brings a bag of affectations to his roles that really distract me. I’d call that overacting and it works better on stage than on screen.

For the record, I thought he was fine in that first episode though.

Re: Fleabag
« Reply #117 on: March 07, 2019, 09:30:17 AM »
The trouble with the asides to camera is that she often uses them to explain the joke, or worse, tell you what the next joke's going to be. Something like:

1. Voice over: "My boyfriend always cleans the flat when we split up"

2. To camera: "sometimes I dump him because the flat's looking a mess"

3. Next shot: she's lying  in bed, running her finger along the top of a dusty bedside table. Says to him "I don't think this is working..."

Credit the audience with the ability to link 3. back to 1. without 2. in the middle to show us the way.


Re: Fleabag
« Reply #118 on: March 08, 2019, 02:36:11 PM »
Some heavy stuff in the first episode of the new season, but it seemed like a step down from s1 (which felt v. fresh)...there's something about it where it feels like it's just coasting along. But the super cast really helps it.

Don't know if it was because of the comments made here, but I did start seeing similarities to Miranda in the first few minutes (something which I'd not really compared it to before).

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Re: Fleabag
« Reply #119 on: March 08, 2019, 03:31:24 PM »
I enjoyed it, but perhaps aimed towards a more knowing and wider audience (i.e., with an eye on the liberal glitterati States side).