Author Topic: Red Dead Redemption 2 (Equestrian Boogaloo)  (Read 69129 times)

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Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 (Equestrian Boogaloo)
« Reply #1530 on: September 07, 2019, 08:14:38 PM »
I don't think I'd want to play it again. The futility of it all, plus tappy tappy button to make your horse move.

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« Reply #1531 on: September 07, 2019, 08:49:27 PM »
Frustrating. Because it is an incredible, beautiful world. Filled with tedious necessities.

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« Reply #1532 on: September 07, 2019, 08:54:58 PM »
Amazing first two hours, everything after that was peadwraith tier. Tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap fuckin total bullshit aids life over burns victim vitamin deficient bifida boy

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« Reply #1533 on: September 08, 2019, 12:15:26 AM »
It was way too long and way too convoluted in its mechanics for me to ever play it again.

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« Reply #1534 on: September 08, 2019, 12:42:05 AM »
It was way too long and way too convoluted in its mechanics for me to ever play it again.

That was my immediate reaction upon finishing “well, I’m never playing that again!”

I couldn’t count how many times I’ve played the first one through, it was a genuinely formative video game for me for a lot of reasons I won’t go into here. I’ll play RDR2 again, eventually, but christ knows when I’ll have a free 70 hours knocking about.

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« Reply #1535 on: September 08, 2019, 12:58:56 AM »
I ended up with about 120 hours. I was doing far too much of the hunting. It's not something I'm usually into, but there was something addictive about collecting three star pelts and taking them to the trapper. Especially because he sold the only decent clothes in the game. The ones you could buy in town were shit.

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« Reply #1536 on: September 08, 2019, 05:43:48 AM »
Everything is so slow, kills me every time I fire it up. I never even made it past chapter 3, just so boring. Considering how amazing the environments look and the incredible lighting, the character models look like PS3 waxwork ghoul aids wraiths. Absolutely shithouse.

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« Reply #1537 on: September 08, 2019, 02:23:01 PM »
Tempted to fire it up again (likewise haven't touched it since finishing it months ago) just to play it like I played GTA when I was about 11 - just go mental, killing, robbing, horse a-rustling. Utter carnage.

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« Reply #1538 on: September 08, 2019, 02:28:53 PM »
I'm hoping that the number of people bothering to play online is a lot less than Rockstar were expecting/wanting. Increases the chance of them releasing some single player DLC. I think it's more or less accepted at this point that the reason they didn't release any for GTA5 was because the online was making them so much bank, so why bother?

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« Reply #1539 on: September 08, 2019, 02:33:31 PM »
Tempted to fire it up again (likewise haven't touched it since finishing it months ago) just to play it like I played GTA when I was about 11 - just go mental, killing, robbing, horse a-rustling. Utter carnage.
That's what I think I'll do next time round.

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« Reply #1540 on: September 08, 2019, 04:35:17 PM »
Everything is so slow, kills me every time I fire it up. I never even made it past chapter 3, just so boring.

Same.

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« Reply #1541 on: September 08, 2019, 09:18:51 PM »
can you skin a man in this

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« Reply #1542 on: September 08, 2019, 09:39:09 PM »
No. You can skin as many endangered species as you like, but you can't skin a man, a horse, a dog or a cat. If there's a PC version that'd be the first mod to install.

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« Reply #1543 on: September 08, 2019, 10:57:07 PM »
I got as far as the bit when you first start messing around in the city that's supposed to be New Orleans (I guess) and just got bored of it all. Trying to think if it's because it's not as good at the original (which I finished) or I've just grown beyond the Rockstar model now.

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« Reply #1544 on: September 11, 2019, 11:48:28 AM »
Tempted to fire it up again (likewise haven't touched it since finishing it months ago) just to play it like I played GTA when I was about 11 - just go mental, killing, robbing, horse a-rustling. Utter carnage.

Started doing this last night, and forgot about the interminable intro bit in the snow. Eventually got through it, robbed the medicine shop in Valentine and then stole a train and drove it into St Denis, beat up the eugenics guy, got a haircut and a bath then got bored again.

Dunno how long I'll last doing this. How can you make cash if you're wanted everywhere?

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« Reply #1545 on: September 11, 2019, 06:38:57 PM »
It's  interesting, people often  talk about kojima needing an editor, but it's  far more true of the Houser's and the other Rockstar leads.

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« Reply #1546 on: September 11, 2019, 06:40:28 PM »
Or not even an editor, so much as someone who knows how to design fun game mechanics.

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« Reply #1547 on: September 11, 2019, 06:44:07 PM »
I mean, going around shooting loads of cunts, as the law are chasing you, is about as fun as it gets no?

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« Reply #1548 on: September 11, 2019, 07:07:09 PM »
It could be in a game where the shooting is actually fun and interesting enough to sustain 100 or even just 20 hours.

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« Reply #1549 on: September 11, 2019, 07:08:49 PM »
Fair enough, I quite like it. But then i'm a little bit of a fan of the setting and time period so I'm looking at it a little biased.

I just chuck on my Marty Robbins playlist and start some trouble and run from the law for a while, see what carnage I can create.

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« Reply #1550 on: September 11, 2019, 07:21:02 PM »
No. You can skin as many endangered species as you like, but you can't skin a man, a horse, a dog or a cat. If there's a PC version that'd be the first mod to install.

I'd just want more baddies spawned

I mean, I played it again n before I even left the first area I boxed off the nigh-impossible Satchel of the East or whatever it is and most of the legendary beasties

So I'm ridin round trying not to advance the plot but I've seen most of the "seen it once, seen it a million times" stuff from the first play through

Tell you what these fucks need. Proper emergent gameplay. Like Operation Flashpoint back in the day. Don't corral missions to their own zone. Make em happen in the seamless world, allow for fuck ups.

Rockstar love this don't they... build a perfect open world but then use last gen mission design that don't take advantage of it

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« Reply #1551 on: September 11, 2019, 08:00:09 PM »
The actual shooting mechanics feel completely separate from the character movement. It's literally just moving a dot around the screen. Total shit for shit for brains shit for brains.

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« Reply #1552 on: September 11, 2019, 08:04:53 PM »
I mean that's how shooting has been in gaming since shooting was invented, the reticule on the screen represents where the bullet goes.

Except Metro on the hardest difficulty which awesome comrades!

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« Reply #1553 on: September 11, 2019, 08:09:22 PM »
Their mission design is still built upon the template set up in GTA 3. There's things they've built on it, but the foundation is still the same. The gunplay is 3rd person cover shooter lite. It's fine, serviceable, but they don't have to make it better because the core world building is good and that's enough for people.

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« Reply #1554 on: September 11, 2019, 08:10:42 PM »
When it's at its best, though, you feel a connection between the character and the reticule. It's not totally divorced from the character's movement. Things like weight and physicality can be conveyed and are in better games. Something like Vanquish feels like the character is shooting and the dot is a guide for the player, rather than the entire focus. You might well disagree but that's how I feel about it.

Red Dead is, like GTA, a game where the description of what is happening is really exciting and the emergent elements sound chaotic and intelligent but the mechanical experience of playing is incredibly simplistic and largely very predictable. It's an experience that you can really fill in with your imagination, which I think is a good thing in theory, but that's basically all there is to it, which I find a bit shit in practice.

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« Reply #1555 on: September 11, 2019, 08:13:31 PM »
There's so many shooting games, some are brilliant, some are shit despite the fact that you're ostensibly just moving a dot around a screen. Obviously it's not easy to make it good, but when it's what you actually do most of the time and Rockstar have more money and praise than God, I feel like it could be better.

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« Reply #1556 on: September 11, 2019, 08:17:20 PM »
Imagine a Platinum combat system in a Rockstar open world with FROM lore and a Cave bullet hell scoring system and Gal Gun NPCs and wanking mini game

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« Reply #1557 on: September 11, 2019, 08:42:28 PM »
I mean, it goes for a more realistic game design, you're not flying all over the screen with pin point accuracy, you're slowly moving around with slow guns.

Wouldn't a massive, living, breathing open world and mental, fast Platinum style gun play be an even bigger clash?

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« Reply #1558 on: September 11, 2019, 09:35:36 PM »
Yeah I don't want it, just saying imagine that hahaha

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« Reply #1559 on: Yesterday at 07:08:23 AM »
Had another pop at the online version last night - gash