Anyone ever tried to make a game?

[MojoJojo]

None of the newer, "safer" alternatives for compiled OOP are really enough of an improvement to justify the switch.

It is a terrible language for any sort of parsing of input data - although I'm not sure what I mean by that.

[Twed]

I don't think safer needs scare quotes. You make a bounds error in C++ and it fails silently and writes to the wrong memory. You make a bounds error in C# and you get an exception.

I agree that the more modern equivalents of C++ (C#, Java, etc.) are terrible. They're just horrible. Programming shouldn't feel like you need to wear a suit.

Python and JavaScript (seriously), the newer languages like Go, LUA for in-game scripting... that's the way to enjoy life as a developer.

[MojoJojo]

I don't think safer needs scare quotes. You make a bounds error in C++ and it fails silently and writes to the wrong memory. You make a bounds error in C# and you get an exception.

I agree that the more modern equivalents of C++ (C#, Java, etc.) are terrible. They're just horrible. Programming shouldn't feel like you need to wear a suit.

Python and JavaScript (seriously), the newer languages like Go, LUA for in-game scripting... that's the way to enjoy life as a developer.

To continue the off topic-ness - I wasn't talking about C#, Java as the safer alternatives. They're (basically) interpreted languages, and if you can meet your performance and memory goals with them you'd be mad to choose C++ instead. Just from a time to implement point of view, never mind security. But if you can't fit an OS and VM into your memory footprint, or you need decent realtime performance C or C++ are pretty much your only options. Go and Swift don't really offer enough advantages -hence the scare quotes - over C++ to be worthwhile - that might change in time, but I suspect not.

[Twed]

"Embedded" devices, then? Sure, absolutely. That's when it's the right choice.

[Bhazor]

Nerrds.

[Twed]

Mate, throwing our lives away to develop skills like these is why we can expect to make upwards of 15K a year in the job market.

[Bhazor]

I talked to a computer major once who was having a minor mental breakdown when he found out the language he'd spent 5 years studying had been all but abandoned. I don't know what language it was but he fell asleep on the sofa clutching a bottle of White Ace.

[Twed]

He had no hope if he was tied to one language, TBH. Any programmer worth their salt can pick up a language on the fly if necessary.

[hedgehog90]

^ Except for C++
I refuse to indulge in such vulgarity.

[Bhazor]

Humble Bundle has a GameMaker Bundle. $1 for the pro edition of GameMaker Studio.

https://www.humblebundle.com/gamemaker-rebundle

Alongside some shite games made in it.  Really just atrocious shite.

Still it's a good entry level program for cheap that has been used for some classics like Nuclear Throne and Undertale. Alongside some utter shite.