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« Reply #300 on: April 09, 2019, 12:51:06 PM »

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« Reply #301 on: April 11, 2019, 08:18:46 PM »
Jon Ronson's The Last Days of August is now freely available outside of Audible, about the suicide of pornstar August Ames after she was hounded on Twitter for her remarks about doing scenes with gay men. 'Excited' to listen to it, as excited as you can be by a podcast about something so futile and sad, as The Butterfly Effect was a lovely effort in humanising porn-stars, a group of people nobody ever really thinks about outside of porn videos themselves. It seems pretty natural for him to tell this story, given his work writing about public shaming.

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« Reply #302 on: April 11, 2019, 08:25:42 PM »
Jon Ronson's The Last Days of August is now freely available outside of Audible, about the suicide of pornstar August Ames after she was hounded on Twitter for her remarks about doing scenes with gay men. 'Excited' to listen to it, as excited as you can be by a podcast about something so futile and sad, as The Butterfly Effect was a lovely effort in humanising porn-stars, a group of people nobody ever really thinks about outside of porn videos themselves. It seems pretty natural for him to tell this story, given his work writing about public shaming.

That, and the way he pronounced “porn” was worth the subscribe alone.

“...but free internet puuurn has made life difficult for the industry...”

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« Reply #303 on: April 11, 2019, 09:45:51 PM »
Jon Ronson's The Last Days of August is now freely available outside of Audible, about the suicide of pornstar August Ames after she was hounded on Twitter for her remarks about doing scenes with gay men. 'Excited' to listen to it, as excited as you can be by a podcast about something so futile and sad, as The Butterfly Effect was a lovely effort in humanising porn-stars, a group of people nobody ever really thinks about outside of porn videos themselves. It seems pretty natural for him to tell this story, given his work writing about public shaming.

Bloody hell, another one that's stupidly difficult to find. A Google search only turned up links to the Audible version; Ronson's twitter said it's available on The Butterfly Effect podcast feed (which is the first I've heard of The Butterfly Effect being available as a podcast), but without a link to said feed; a Google for that took me to its iTunes page, then I had to paste that URL into feedflipper to finally get the RSS feed address. (It's http://thebutterflyeffect.audible.libsynpro.com/rss, to save you the trouble.)

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« Reply #304 on: April 12, 2019, 05:08:35 PM »
That, and the way he pronounced “porn” was worth the subscribe alone.

“...but free internet puuurn has made life difficult for the industry...”

Sometimes when I'm walking about I get his haaaardcoooore poooooorn delivery stuck in my head and am compelled to record a crap imitation of it on my phone. My voice memos are punctuated with them.

There's the pause he does before it too. "And it was all because of (microscopic pause) haaaaardcoooore pooooooorn."

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« Reply #305 on: April 12, 2019, 05:10:34 PM »
I like how giddy he sounds when he says: "...and this episode was written by me, Jon Ronson!"

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« Reply #306 on: April 12, 2019, 05:20:21 PM »
Only two eps into the Ronson/August one, but I'm finding the 'she's the villain,' 'no, he's the villain' mode of sustaining our interest a little tacky.  Ronson's so bloody likeable that it's sometimes much too easy to excuse his journalistic methods.

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« Reply #307 on: April 12, 2019, 06:26:37 PM »
Currently marathoning "Jordan, Jesse, Go!" , mainly cos I have a major crush on Jordan Morris.

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« Reply #308 on: April 12, 2019, 07:07:44 PM »
Yeah, like he’s surprised but delighted every time he realizes he wrote the episode.

I like how giddy he sounds when he says: "...and this episode was written by me (?!), Jon Ronson!"

Sometimes when I'm walking about I get his haaaardcoooore poooooorn delivery stuck in my head and am compelled to record a crap imitation of it on my phone. My voice memos are punctuated with them.

There's the pause he does before it too. "And it was all because of (microscopic pause) haaaaardcoooore pooooooorn."

It’s compelling isn’t it? I can’t work out what it is about his delivery thatnstands out so much.

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« Reply #309 on: April 13, 2019, 12:34:51 AM »
Only two eps into the Ronson/August one, but I'm finding the 'she's the villain,' 'no, he's the villain' mode of sustaining our interest a little tacky.  Ronson's so bloody likeable that it's sometimes much too easy to excuse his journalistic methods.

Yeah, I struggle a lot with his reliance on 'and then something really unexpected happened...' cliffhangers. Finding it flows a lot better than The Butterfly Effect though, which felt a lot more scattershot. This being all about one specific story helps a lot.

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« Reply #310 on: April 13, 2019, 09:31:40 PM »
For anyone who's been to Thailand and are interested in the region there's a good weekly podcast called the Bangkok Podcast  (https://www.bangkokpodcast.com/).  Covers a broad range of topics about expat life  and Thailand in general eg: -


Live music in Bangkok

Raising kids in Bangkok

Gay rights in Thailand

Do only weirdos live in Bangkok


Really entertaining podcast I find and thankfully (otherwise I wouldn't bother listening) doesn't focus on the seedy side of the country.

Evo Terra, one of the previous co-hosts was one of the first people to create a podcast and has written books on the subject so it's all professionally done and I like the presenters generally

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« Reply #311 on: April 14, 2019, 10:37:18 AM »
Emil Amos' Drifter's Sympathy

This is another corker.  He has a way with description and when discussing music he is very curious and informed.  He almost has a childlike wonder that he backs up by making the effort to delve further and voice exactly how and why particular moves him.  If anything, this podcast proves that we've definitely gone past the world of received opinions and boasting.  He's a great drummer too.

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« Reply #312 on: April 15, 2019, 01:28:54 AM »
Yeah, I struggle a lot with his reliance on 'and then something really unexpected happened...' cliffhangers. Finding it flows a lot better than The Butterfly Effect though, which felt a lot more scattershot. This being all about one specific story helps a lot.

What did you think of it in the end?  I quite liked it, though maybe it should have been called We Need to Talk About Kevin instead?  He's likely a controlling sleazeball and everything, but it felt quite a lot like a pod about public shaming this Kevin dude from a man who wrote the book on the dangers of public shaming.  That Lisa Ann call was the best part.  She sounded more dangerous and threatening than the real Sarah Palin ever did.

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« Reply #313 on: April 15, 2019, 06:45:53 AM »
Yeah I felt it came from a really weird angle, like it was trying quite hard to disprove that public shaming could have been at fault, and it didn't massively convince me. Apart from some quick interviews in episode 1 with two perpetrators, Ames' views and the backlash against them were largely unexplored. As you say, it ended up being all about Kevin, and yet they didn't manage to pull up anything more surprising than 'he's a very jealous and controlling person'. Undoubtedly there were a lot of things going on in her life in the lead-up to her suicide, but to me the existence of those things doesn't automatically disprove that the internet pile-on had a massive effect.

The whole thing just had this weird vibe. There's that bit where Kevin gets really pissed off, and you get an image of Ronson spending a whole year trying to dig up dirt on him. Even worse is that the opening of the first episode reveals that they first contacted him around about a week after her suicide.

I don't know. It left a weird taste in my mouth. If its revelations had been more of a smoking gun (they cover the porn shoot that Ames thought was abusive, which is obviously the most horrific issue to come up, but to be honest they didn't sound that convinced) it might have felt justified. But it comes to a muddled end, and so everything leading up to that end retrospectively looks a bit excessive.

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« Reply #314 on: April 15, 2019, 07:39:07 AM »
I've always found Ronson shallow and vague tbh.

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« Reply #315 on: April 15, 2019, 08:58:09 AM »
Yeah I felt it came from a really weird angle, like it was trying quite hard to disprove that public shaming could have been at fault, and it didn't massively convince me. Apart from some quick interviews in episode 1 with two perpetrators, Ames' views and the backlash against them were largely unexplored. As you say, it ended up being all about Kevin, and yet they didn't manage to pull up anything more surprising than 'he's a very jealous and controlling person'. Undoubtedly there were a lot of things going on in her life in the lead-up to her suicide, but to me the existence of those things doesn't automatically disprove that the internet pile-on had a massive effect.

The whole thing just had this weird vibe. There's that bit where Kevin gets really pissed off, and you get an image of Ronson spending a whole year trying to dig up dirt on him. Even worse is that the opening of the first episode reveals that they first contacted him around about a week after her suicide.

I don't know. It left a weird taste in my mouth. If its revelations had been more of a smoking gun (they cover the porn shoot that Ames thought was abusive, which is obviously the most horrific issue to come up, but to be honest they didn't sound that convinced) it might have felt justified. But it comes to a muddled end, and so everything leading up to that end retrospectively looks a bit excessive.

All good points.  I suppose the conversation with Ames' agent at the end brought the pod back down to earth again, but even then Ronson says to him, "We moved on from that theory [that August killing herself less than a day after an internet pile-on was connected]." Sounds like a person a little too drunk on their own thesis.

One of the most laboured moments was when Ronson dropped the name of an obscure British play to an L.A. porn producer who had no chance in hell of knowing what it was, all as a way of saying, 'see! This play has the same message as my podcast!' Can't remember the name of it- it sounded like the English proto-13 Reasons Why. 

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« Reply #316 on: April 15, 2019, 01:39:20 PM »
I've always found Ronson shallow and vague tbh.

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« Reply #317 on: April 15, 2019, 02:31:20 PM »
European tour announced on the lastest Chapo Trap House. They've announced London, Manchester and a few other places I can't remember off the top of my head!

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« Reply #318 on: April 15, 2019, 02:48:22 PM »
One of the most laboured moments was when Ronson dropped the name of an obscure British play to an L.A. porn producer who had no chance in hell of knowing what it was, all as a way of saying, 'see! This play has the same message as my podcast!' Can't remember the name of it- it sounded like the English proto-13 Reasons Why.

An Inspector Calls.

I didn't like it nearly as much as The Butterfly Effect. That one really expanded on its premise and took it into interesting directions (e.g. that poor autistic kid who's now a sex offender) on each episode.

This one felt like it couldn't work out if it was about Kevin or August. Ronson said at the start it wouldn't be murder mystery which seemed honourable, but is it much better that some rando that no one's really heard about before is essentially characterised as a creepy controlling liar? I felt they could maybe have explored the infamous porn scene in a more Rashomon-type way; how even though August's account of what happened and how she feels kept changing, it was all about how she didn't want to cause trouble for others. That scene and everyone's behaviour spoke very poorly of the porn industry in general.

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« Reply #319 on: April 15, 2019, 03:15:41 PM »
An Inspector Calls is hardly "an obscure British play." It's Priestley's best known and most performed work.

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« Reply #320 on: April 15, 2019, 03:18:54 PM »
Quite a funny moment though - the porn producer had never heard of it and didn't seem massively interested in the comparison.

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« Reply #321 on: April 15, 2019, 03:29:04 PM »
I said obscure because it wasn't in the first ten results when I googled 'British woman suicide play.'

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« Reply #322 on: April 16, 2019, 05:17:02 PM »
Not sure if has been mentioned in the last eleven pages, but I got recommended 'Crime In Sports'. It doesn't sound particularly CaB-ish but it hits the ground running in episode one, and three episodes in I'm delighted to know that I still have over 150 to listen to. They're irreverent (two comedians talking about true crime and sports at the same time), and I don't think that you particularly need to know American sports that well to enjoy them.

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« Reply #323 on: April 16, 2019, 05:53:01 PM »
Not sure if has been mentioned in the last eleven pages, but I got recommended 'Crime In Sports'. It doesn't sound particularly CaB-ish but it hits the ground running in episode one, and three episodes in I'm delighted to know that I still have over 150 to listen to. They're irreverent (two comedians talking about true crime and sports at the same time), and I don't think that you particularly need to know American sports that well to enjoy them.

I'm a big fan of it too. Knowing nothing of the subject matter actually adds to my enjoyment of it. Hearing James and Jimmy trying to get their heads around non-US sports is tremendous fun too. Oh, and the recurring characters...

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« Reply #324 on: May 14, 2019, 07:24:07 PM »
I know loadsa people hate Russell Brand (and loadsa people don't really know why they hate him, other than because of some, in my opinion, misinformed first impression), but he's just done a podcast with David Lynch.  Only got a clip from it here of Lynch talking about some wild macro-macro shit involving Yogi Bear or something, but the full thing should be on youtube in a few days: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SOz2n0v-AcA

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« Reply #325 on: May 15, 2019, 07:18:15 AM »
has anyone caught the new James Adomian podcast yet?

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« Reply #326 on: May 15, 2019, 07:45:46 AM »
No, but he was good on Chapo a couple of days ago.  That pod sometimes goes over my head, but Jesse Ventura impressions- those I can understand.

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« Reply #327 on: May 16, 2019, 09:51:55 AM »
Jesse Ventura impressions- those I can understand.
If you don't already, listen to the Lapsed Fan. It's basically 90% impressions of Ventura and Vince McMahon.

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« Reply #328 on: May 16, 2019, 10:27:01 AM »
Cheers!  I'll get on it.

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« Reply #329 on: May 16, 2019, 11:22:44 AM »
Do people listen to scripted podcasts? I often listen to podcasts to fall asleep to and they aren't ideal for that as I never know what I have missed when I fall asleep and have to start again. I found Homecoming quite compelling and relaxing though, and Sandra starring Alia Shawkat. They are getting some big hitter actors on these now like Rami Malek and the like