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Great Bass players

Started by Dr Syntax Head, July 30, 2017, 08:17:25 PM

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NattyDread 2

Quote from: BlodwynPig on July 30, 2017, 11:14:16 PM
Funkadelic and Parliament too...kind of watered down funk.

Are you pullin' my puddin'? Watered down? They were off on one mate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOoKgK09fCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmmzbVM5BMw

BlodwynPig


BlodwynPig

That first track is just R&B with a weedy guitar line and shit lyrics.

Golden E. Pump

Parliament/Funkadelic PIONEERED funk in the 70s, no way can you call them watered down. I can appreciate if they're not to your tastes though.

Bootsy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSnbV1FrIhA

'Nuff said.

Shit Good Nose

Quote from: BlodwynPig on August 01, 2017, 12:21:40 AM
Nah, here's the funk...you just ain't been expo.sed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHpk9krUJBI

Blods - I love you and everything, but you do know that's disco.  Don't you?


I mean, I myself have always said it's a VERY fine line between good funk and soul, and bad disco, but that's disco all the way.

BlodwynPig

Quote from: Shit Good Nose on August 01, 2017, 12:28:34 AM
Blods - I love you and everything, but you do know that's disco.  Don't you?


I mean, I myself have always said it's a VERY fine line between good funk and soul, and bad disco, but that's disco all the way.

Ha ha...disco my arse. The bass makes it funk. Well, I can't be bothered to argue with someone who probably knows a hell a lot more than me about the history of funk. But Dexter is funky! Funkadelic sounds weedy.

BlodwynPig

It's like Zappa's Fillmore stuff. Crap with those Turtle wankers spoiling the groove. Result, no groove.

Golden E. Pump

Early Funkadelic is more psychedelic rock, but surely you don't class this as 'reedy'?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_20BvG3H6DY

Synth bass counts!


BlodwynPig

Quote from: Golden E. Pump on August 01, 2017, 01:02:59 AM
Early Funkadelic is more psychedelic rock, but surely you don't class this as 'reedy'?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_20BvG3H6DY

Synth bass counts!

I'll give you that one. Not fantastic but some nice bits "she's a big 'ol freak" refrain and the synth bass. Don't like the Outkast vocalisations...but I'm trying my best. This is the first time I haven't baulked at a Funkadelic track.

Golden E. Pump


BlodwynPig

Nah, I'll stick to George Duke or Lonnie Liston Smith

Brundle-Fly


dex

Joe Lally of Fugazi fame

Tim Commerford! Truly the master of the less is more sentiment on the bass.

Dr Syntax Head

Quote from: dex on August 01, 2017, 12:23:04 PM


Tim Commerford! Truly the master of the less is more sentiment on the bass.

Timmy C is incredible. His tone is just godlike


Sebastian Cobb

Carol Kaye.


I'm kind of struggling with the idea of someone not liking p-funk tbh.

Shit Good Nose

Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on August 01, 2017, 12:35:22 PM
I'm kind of struggling with the idea of someone not liking p-funk tbh.

Not liking I get.  It's the "not funk" that I can't get my head around.  Especially when what's offered back in response is Dexter Wansel.

On the other hand, it is Blods.  So we'll let him off/pretend it never happened and move on.

SpiderChrist

Quote from: BlodwynPig on July 30, 2017, 11:14:16 PM
hmmm...I've always found him boring. Funkadelic and Parliament too...kind of watered down funk.

*sputter*

Anyway.

What about Norman Watt-Roy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_Qras125bE

Brundle-Fly


Dr Syntax Head

I think Blodders was talking about Flea. Even so he's wrong cos Flea is an incredible player

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM46WAY6MIc

The very opposite of watered down funk. It stinks of sex does that

Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: Shit Good Nose on August 01, 2017, 12:38:32 PM
Not liking I get.  It's the "not funk" that I can't get my head around.  Especially when what's offered back in response is Dexter Wansel.

On the other hand, it is Blods.  So we'll let him off/pretend it never happened and move on.

To be fair, I don't mind people who aren't interested in funk or whatever. But if I played someone some objectively good funk and they said 'I don't like that' I'd struggle to take their opinions on music seriously and might be weary of them as a person.

Dr Syntax Head

Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on August 01, 2017, 01:10:06 PM
To be fair, I don't mind people who aren't interested in funk or whatever. But if I played someone some objectively good funk and they said 'I don't like that' I'd struggle to take their opinions on music seriously and might be weary of them as a person.

I'm the same when I introduce anyone to Loveless

Shit Good Nose

Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on August 01, 2017, 01:10:06 PM
To be fair, I don't mind people who aren't interested in funk or whatever. But if I played someone some objectively good funk and they said 'I don't like that' I'd struggle to take their opinions on music seriously and might be weary of them as a person.

As a prog nut who loathes ELP (even the "decent early stuff"), subjective dislike of a particular band or artist within a genre you otherwise love is a concept that doesn't seem especially mental to me.

But Dexter Wansel...

NattyDread 2

Quote from: BlodwynPig on August 01, 2017, 12:21:40 AM
Nah, here's the funk...you just ain't been expo.sed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHpk9krUJBI

Ah, you're one of those Jazz-Funk types. Fair enough, different strokes and that. I love some of the spacier efforts but if anything, that's the watered down gear from the raw 70's stuff.

Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: NattyDread 2 on August 01, 2017, 02:13:20 PM
Ah, you're one of those Jazz-Funk types. Fair enough, different strokes and that. I love some of the spacier efforts but if anything, that's the watered down gear from the raw 70's stuff.

Jimmy McGriff is one of my favorites from Jazz funk.

NattyDread 2

Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on August 01, 2017, 02:21:54 PM
Jimmy McGriff is one of my favorites from Jazz funk.

See I'd have him down as Soul Jazz, like Jimmy Smith, Jack McDuff and the like. New thread needed perhaps.

Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: NattyDread 2 on August 01, 2017, 02:55:40 PM
See I'd have him down as Soul Jazz, like Jimmy Smith, Jack McDuff and the like. New thread needed perhaps.

Even the stuff on Electric Funk and Groove Grease?

wosl

Lots of good 'uns already listed.  Another vote for Eberhard Weber - a very distinctive, sympathetic and thoughtful player who's done great work across the ECM catalogue.  Freddie Washington's work on Patrice Rushen's first two or three soul pop albums is smashing.  Max Bennett is lovely on the Joni albums where she's transitioning from hippie poetess to a jazzier, more worldly vibe.  Jon Camp (Renaissance) is a fine player in the Chris Squire mould.  Considering the shoes he had to fill (Jaco's), Mark Egan's playing on the Pat Metheny Group's early stuff is great.  Dave Pegg is a stalwart in both 'jigging-and-reeling' and more straight-ahead rock modes.  John McVie maybe doesn't get as much attention as he might, due in part to his natural reticence, and because the guitarists he's played with have tended to command the spotlight, but he's a great and tasteful server of songs.  Ditto Rutger Gunnarsson, of Abba's core session band, always an enjoyable and interesting player.  Jack Casady is another super player, and one of the chief reasons that Jefferson Airplane remained an interesting band to listen to once Signe Anderson and Skip Spence had quit (his playing on an alternative version of David Crosby's Guinnevere injects a real burst of life, without swamping the tone of the song).

BlodwynPig

Quote from: Dr Syntax Head on August 01, 2017, 12:49:16 PM
I think Blodders was talking about Flea. Even so he's wrong cos Flea is an incredible player

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM46WAY6MIc

The very opposite of watered down funk. It stinks of sex does that

Wrong. I think Flea, as stated earlier, is technically gifted...shame about the music.

It's great to be always on the wrong side of taste. The Beatles, Funkadelic, Bowie, Stones, Prince. Never liked them, never will. Sue me.

BlodwynPig

Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on August 01, 2017, 01:10:06 PM
To be fair, I don't mind people who aren't interested in funk or whatever. But if I played someone some objectively good funk and they said 'I don't like that' I'd struggle to take their opinions on music seriously and might be weary of them as a person.

You're a funkwit, though. I'm a decent person and I would be very kind to you if I met you. But that statement is wank. I may try and wind people up with The Beatles as I know it hits a nerve. But I genuinely do not like Funkadelic. The track posted a bit later, I said I liked that one - so its not like I'm being obstinate. I'll accept that some of their stuff I may enjoy, just like I don't like every fucking Dexter Wansel track.

MonkfromHavana recently pm'd me about not feeling much for Future Beat Alliance. I didn't jump down his neck for that.

But you may continue being weary of me as a person if you like and I'll call you a funkwit and we can all go home and funk the funk up.