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Re: Chart Music Podcast
« Reply #2070 on: June 15, 2019, 10:59:33 PM »
  I'm hoping the remaining episodes keep the balance that makes 3h seem like no time at all.

They do. You're at least seven episodes away from one of my very favourites, Taylor and Neil covering the ludicrous Hallowe'en 1982 edition of TOTP.

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« Reply #2071 on: June 15, 2019, 11:15:10 PM »
They do. You're at least seven episodes away from one of my very favourites, Taylor and Neil covering the ludicrous Hallowe'en 1982 edition of TOTP.

Might be my favourite too.

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« Reply #2072 on: June 15, 2019, 11:59:23 PM »
Taylor is definitely my favourite. Even when I don't agree with him I like listening to what he says. Mark of a good journo I'd say.

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« Reply #2073 on: June 16, 2019, 12:02:13 AM »
They do. You're at least seven episodes away from one of my very favourites, Taylor and Neil covering the ludicrous Hallowe'en 1982 edition of TOTP.

Bliss and heaven.  All 5 have their charms but Parkes and Kulkarni are my favourite pair so far.   

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« Reply #2074 on: June 16, 2019, 12:14:41 AM »
All 1977-83 episodes will be regular repeat listens for me but outside those years, I'm not sure there are enough interesting tracks per episode to hold attention for more than one listen.

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« Reply #2075 on: June 16, 2019, 12:34:57 AM »
Bliss and heaven.  All 5 have their charms but Parkes and Kulkarni are my favourite pair so far.

Same for me. Neil has the best laugh.

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« Reply #2076 on: June 16, 2019, 01:37:00 AM »
In the latest episode I didn't like Pricey assuming that Gary Davies wouldn't have some appreciation of Madchester or stating that it was incongruous for Inspiral Carpets to be on Mute - elitist snobby vibe.

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« Reply #2077 on: June 16, 2019, 09:36:40 AM »
The 'un-Manchester-ness' of Manchester's Gary Davies has been brought up before on CM though.
I don't recall ever hearing his Radio 1 show, but he does give off a strong "I love Johnny Hates Jazz" vibe.

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« Reply #2078 on: June 16, 2019, 10:09:06 AM »
In the latest episode I didn't like Pricey assuming that Gary Davies wouldn't have some appreciation of Madchester or stating that it was incongruous for Inspiral Carpets to be on Mute - elitist snobby vibe.

To be fair, even when I was little and a fan of the Inspirals, it was kinda incongruous for them to be on the same label as NON, Nick Cave, Miranda Sex Garden and DAF.  The nearest I guess to the Inspirals' guitar-centric/psych-influenced sound was something like Those Immortal Souls or Crime And The City Solution, at least when you consider that Mute had far more synth-based acts on the roster.  Nowadays, Mute has really stretched out with the likes of Swans and Josh T Pearson so maybe it's just a case of the record label catching up.

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« Reply #2079 on: June 17, 2019, 11:03:04 AM »
I do wonder if some of it comes from the rather fractious relationship they had with the music press (very few interviews, and when they did the journos were usually treated with indifference) at least prior to the 1993 reformation.

I didn't start listening to them until the mid-90s, apart from the late-80s singles that were floating around with everything else. They were well into their holiday by the time I got stuck in, and in both cases there was no context to engage with except for the music. Therefore, I love them. How many bands had a run of singles as strong as from Ceremony in '81 to Regret in '93? Marvellous.

On the downside, because of the hiatus, I did collide with a Monaco support slot at a lad-packed Charlatans gig in Doncaster.   

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« Reply #2080 on: June 17, 2019, 12:46:02 PM »
On the downside, because of the hiatus, I did collide with a Monaco support slot at a lad-packed Charlatans gig in Doncaster.

I think I had the misfortune to see a gig on that tour too.

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« Reply #2081 on: June 17, 2019, 02:12:22 PM »
To be fair, even when I was little and a fan of the Inspirals, it was kinda incongruous for them to be on the same label as NON, Nick Cave, Miranda Sex Garden and DAF.
Officially they were never signed to Mute - they had set up their own label Cow after the indie Playtime who they had originally signed to went under as a result of the collapse of Red Rhino and The Cartel. Their self-released singles on Moo were successful in indie terms, but they were frustrated at their 'Move' single stalling just inside the Top 50 so they approached Daniel Miller for advice. When they said they were thinking about going to a major label to get more exposure he said "So you’re thinking of throwing it all away?" and said there were other options to look into.

They left him a tape of their unreleased album and after listening to it he decided to offer them a licencing deal where Mute would act as distributor for Cow as a sublabel (in the UK the releases were still listed under the Cow label, but in Europe they were on Mute) with Cow keeping control of their merchandising rights. He also then helped them out in the studio, getting Flood to remix This Is How It Feels? for radio play and Miller himself had a go at the follow-up She Comes In The Fall.

The deal with Mute ended in 2003 after the release of the Cool As box set and the new single Come Back Tomorrow to promote it, and after a  self-released single on Cow in 2012 they signed a new distribution deal deal with Cherry Red to put out their new self-titled album and the single Spitfire in 2014.
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« Reply #2082 on: June 17, 2019, 08:12:55 PM »
I did a big old laugh when Sarah mentioned that the world's strongest man is in Game of Thrones, causing Al to respond, "What, Geoff Capes?!"

Al's little asides were the best thing about this.

"It's all in you"

The call back to the Lawrie McMenemy promo for Pontins Camber Sands ("get us a  croc mam!") which sounded like it utterly bemused the other two.

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« Reply #2083 on: June 17, 2019, 09:08:48 PM »
The call back to the Lawrie McMenemy promo for Pontins Camber Sands ("get us a  croc mam!") which sounded like it utterly bemused the other two.

It was originally mentioned in an episode with 'The P Team' wasn't it?

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« Reply #2084 on: June 17, 2019, 09:49:06 PM »
Number 36, Taylor and Stubbs. It came up in connection with Taylor's magnificent speech about that strain of 70s British mediocrity, prompted by the Dooleys

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« Reply #2085 on: June 17, 2019, 10:00:15 PM »
The 'un-Manchester-ness' of Manchester's Gary Davies has been brought up before on CM though.
I don't recall ever hearing his Radio 1 show, but he does give off a strong "I love Johnny Hates Jazz" vibe.

May well be wrong - 'before my time' to use a cunt's phrase - but I think Gary Davies was by this point occupying the 'not quite daytime, not quite Peel' hinterland previously occupied by Kid Jensen, Richard Skinner, etc. Doesn't seem too much of a stretch that he'd have been playing Madchester.

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« Reply #2086 on: June 17, 2019, 10:31:35 PM »
May well be wrong - 'before my time' to use a cunt's phrase - but I think Gary Davies was by this point occupying the 'not quite daytime, not quite Peel' hinterland previously occupied by Kid Jensen, Richard Skinner, etc. Doesn't seem too much of a stretch that he'd have been playing Madchester.

Did he still have his sloppy bit?

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« Reply #2087 on: June 17, 2019, 10:53:44 PM »
The 'un-Manchester-ness' of Manchester's Gary Davies has been brought up before on CM though.
I don't recall ever hearing his Radio 1 show, but he does give off a strong "I love Johnny Hates Jazz" vibe.
May well be wrong - 'before my time' to use a cunt's phrase - but I think Gary Davies was by this point occupying the 'not quite daytime, not quite Peel' hinterland previously occupied by Kid Jensen, Richard Skinner, etc. Doesn't seem too much of a stretch that he'd have been playing Madchester.
The various members of 808 State are on record saying the Gary Davies was instrumental in them getting their record deal with ZTT - he had heard the original version of Pacific State (from the Quadrastate EP) while on holiday in Ibiza in summer 1989 and started playing it on his daytime show (he did 'The Bit In The Middle' 12.45-3pm lunchtime slot between 1984 and 1992) when he got back.. The re-recorded Pacific 707 was released as a single by ZTT in November and got into the Top 10.
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« Reply #2088 on: June 17, 2019, 11:11:50 PM »
What about Johnny Hates Jazz though?

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« Reply #2089 on: June 17, 2019, 11:16:16 PM »
What about Johnny Hates Jazz though?
It's not recorded, sadly. He was apparently playing Cold Sweat by The Sugarcubes on his show in 1988 at the same time Peel was playing it though.

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« Reply #2090 on: June 17, 2019, 11:34:50 PM »
Did he still have his sloppy bit?

According to his Wikipedia article, it had been renamed Lots of Love by that point, which sounds a bit less queasy than Gary's sloppy bit.

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« Reply #2091 on: June 18, 2019, 12:17:42 AM »
May well be wrong - 'before my time' to use a cunt's phrase - but I think Gary Davies was by this point occupying the 'not quite daytime, not quite Peel' hinterland previously occupied by Kid Jensen, Richard Skinner, etc. Doesn't seem too much of a stretch that he'd have been playing Madchester.

Nah, I don't think he ever occupied that position. He was strictly daytime. Post Kid Jensen, Janice Long occupied that slot for most of the 80's.

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« Reply #2092 on: June 18, 2019, 12:44:29 AM »
Wasn't Mark Goodier doing that shift during Davies' last years at Radio 1?

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« Reply #2093 on: June 18, 2019, 01:58:38 AM »
Davies started out on Radio 1 doing a Saturday night slot in Autumn 1982, aged 24, which was where I first heard The Message by Grandmaster Flash, so he could certainly champion edgy stuff. Yet he signed off from his Radio 1 career in 1993, in the Saturday breakfast slot, playing Layla as a fuck you to the new broom policy.


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« Reply #2094 on: June 18, 2019, 07:11:41 AM »
To clarify, when I said he was 'not quite daytime, not quite Peel' I was referring to the music he was playing rather than the slot he held. Playing music that was edgier than your DLTs but not all the way out there.

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« Reply #2095 on: June 18, 2019, 08:04:42 AM »
I have more time for Davies than our pod friends seem to, but that pronunciation of "ScriddiBurliddy" in the chart rundown was painful.

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« Reply #2096 on: June 18, 2019, 08:15:35 AM »
Nah, I don't think he ever occupied that position. He was strictly daytime. Post Kid Jensen, Janice Long occupied that slot for most of the 80's.
Ahem...
he did 'The Bit In The Middle' 12.45-3pm lunchtime slot between 1984 and 1992.
The post-lunchtime schedule for Radio 1 from September 1984 was:
12.45-15.00 Gary Davies (1984-92)
15.00-17.30 Steve Wright
17.30-17.45 Newsbeat
17.45-19.30 Bruno Brookes (09/84-on)
19.30-22.00 Janice Long (09/84-12/87, eventually replaced by Liz Kershaw)
22.00-close  John Peel

Before September 1984, Peter Powell occupied the 16.30-19.00 slot, handing over to Kid Jensen who then handed over to Peel at 22.00. After Jensen's departure for Capital at the end of June, Richard Skinner took over until the schedule was revamped in September.

Wasn't Mark Goodier doing that shift during Davies' last years at Radio 1?
Goodier took over the 17.45 slot in October 1989, then moved to 18.00-19.30 at the start of 1990 before eventually settling in his 'Evening Session' 19.30-21.00 slot in October

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« Reply #2097 on: June 18, 2019, 08:22:48 AM »
I remember Gary Davies going mad for that Double 'Captain Of Her Heart' single almost getting it in the charts single handed. It wasn't as bad as Johnny Hates Jazz but close.

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« Reply #2098 on: June 18, 2019, 09:31:11 AM »
Goodier took over the 17.45 slot in October 1989, then moved to 18.00-19.30 at the start of 1990 before eventually settling in his 'Evening Session' 19.30-21.00 slot in October

Sounds right. He was a big supporter of the Creation output at that time. Used to play Fannies and MBV a lot.

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« Reply #2099 on: June 18, 2019, 12:31:12 PM »
I think that 5-7 pre J Long/Kid Jenson show had an element of a kind of safe/commercial version of the more specialist evening shows. I think they may have had the odd session, and would play stuff like Love and Money or The Kane Gang.