Author Topic: The Good Place  (Read 29537 times)

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Re: The Good Place
« Reply #210 on: December 13, 2018, 05:30:04 PM »
The new episode is an absolute cracker.  Prize-winning stuff from yer Janice actor.

I'd never previously considered that Janice is the term for more than one Janet, but it does work quite nicely.

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Re: The Good Place
« Reply #211 on: December 13, 2018, 06:29:08 PM »
It's had 2 Golden Globes nominations announced this week, Best TV Comedy and Best TV Comedy Actress for Kristen Bell which after the past couple of episodes really seems like the wrong choice

True, but D'Arcy Carden hadn't had that much to do this season until those episodes which the voters wouldn't have seen, so it is understandable. Hopefully the matter will be rectified next year though.

I'm having withdrawal symptoms already and will miss not waking up to a new episode tomorrow a great deal, I really hope it comes back at the beginning of January rather than the end.

Re: The Good Place
« Reply #212 on: December 14, 2018, 10:23:44 AM »
January 11th I think

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Re: The Good Place
« Reply #213 on: December 14, 2018, 12:08:11 PM »
January 11th I think

I just checked and it's the 10th in the US, and the 11th on Netflix in the UK, so that's good that there's not too long a break.

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Re: The Good Place
« Reply #214 on: December 14, 2018, 01:09:49 PM »
My girlfriend's watching season one at the moment and god I hope I'm there when Eleanor realises they're in the Bad Place.

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Re: The Good Place
« Reply #215 on: December 16, 2018, 09:30:26 AM »
Re-watching this from the start again while it's off the air, and I'm starting to get another over-arching theory together that it's going to end up being Michael's "Bad Place" experience, in that this is all clearly torture for him trying to make things right for the 4 humans.

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Re: The Good Place
« Reply #216 on: December 16, 2018, 04:43:55 PM »
It’s been renewed for a fourth season. What weird feeling of yay! And hmmmm that brings.

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Re: The Good Place
« Reply #217 on: December 17, 2018, 12:48:41 PM »
Took me a couple of episodes to fully click with Season 3 but was sold by the end. Good Guest cameo.  Just realised Donna Shellstrop played by the rather wonderful Leslie Grossman is a new regular in American Horror Story

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Re: The Good Place
« Reply #218 on: January 16, 2019, 11:58:35 AM »
Started watching this, and finally caught up with the episodes and this thread.

It is a lovely show. Exceptionally well cast (Danson and Carden esp.), and a huge amount of ideas being thrown about (like Rick & Morty, without the Pickle Rick fanboys stinking up the place).

My only criticism would be that, surely, as a Moral Philosopher, Chidi (and doubly so once you add in Eleanor with her stubbornness) would have dug deeper into where the moral authority came from for this system, especially for infinite punishment for finite transgressions. But they're probably going to deal with this at some point.

Anyway, bump, because there's new episodes this month.

Re: The Good Place
« Reply #219 on: January 16, 2019, 12:52:47 PM »
They keep getting reset though so never gets time to fully comprehend the situation I don't think, and "reality" changes so often there isn't much pause to think it all over

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Re: The Good Place
« Reply #220 on: January 16, 2019, 01:01:15 PM »
My only criticism would be that, surely, as a Moral Philosopher, Chidi (and doubly so once you add in Eleanor with her stubbornness) would have dug deeper into where the moral authority came from for this system, especially for infinite punishment for finite transgressions. But they're probably going to deal with this at some point.

Yeah it bothered me that nobody in The Good Place was particularly bothered that they were living it large while others were being tortured to death. Obviously there was a reason for that, and I briefly hoped that the corrupt system hinted at by the head demon might explain why the whole system is so morally bankrupt, but now they've gone in a different direction. Which is fine - it's a more interesting concept anyway - but I do hope this will be addressed down the line (and that they come up with a good explanation for Chidi's apparent lack of concern).

Re: The Good Place
« Reply #221 on: January 25, 2019, 01:47:20 PM »
Fuck off, no you're crying!

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« Reply #223 on: January 25, 2019, 03:20:46 PM »
It was quite an emotional season finale

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Re: The Good Place
« Reply #224 on: January 25, 2019, 05:21:12 PM »
Ah. Yes, The Good Place has made tear up a few times.

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Re: The Good Place
« Reply #225 on: January 25, 2019, 05:51:47 PM »
I thought it was a bit disappointing (at least by this show's standards), they've done the Chidi memory wipe thing before and though it did affect me emotionally it wasn't that funny an episode. They could at least have done a big reveal at the end of who the two other Good Place people will be, or something a little less bittersweet.

Re: The Good Place
« Reply #226 on: January 25, 2019, 10:51:20 PM »
They usually have a twist at the end of the season, don't they? Maybe that's why this didn't feel like a season finale to me; didn't realise it was until I read it here.

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« Reply #227 on: January 25, 2019, 11:06:08 PM »
I think this show changes what it is so much that to have a twist to top all that at the end of the season would be too much. It burns through plots so quickly, spending an episode on threads that other shows would drag out over a season.

I thought it was a great episode. Just the right side of soppy and still funny as well. It sets up an intriguing next season as well, with Eleanor having to pretend to be the architect, Chidi being oblivious and whatever horrors Shawn has set up as the other two people in the neighbourhood.

I do have the slight doubt that the show is backing itself into a corner though, highlighting how hard it is to get into The Good Place and how arbitrary the rulings are anyway. I don't know how it can come to a satisfactory conclusion given how the stakes are so high. They are playing with the fates of every soul in existence. I can only presume that they have it all planned out, or at least what the end game is

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Re: The Good Place
« Reply #228 on: January 26, 2019, 08:38:37 AM »
Fuck off, no you're crying!


"Huhuhuh... you were moved."

I do have the slight doubt that the show is backing itself into a corner though, highlighting how hard it is to get into The Good Place and how arbitrary the rulings are anyway. I don't know how it can come to a satisfactory conclusion given how the stakes are so high. They are playing with the fates of every soul in existence. I can only presume that they have it all planned out, or at least what the end game is

I want major stakes by the end of the show, I want them to save the universe.  I think that's the plan too, there's no point telling us that no-one gets into the Good Place if they're not going to fix it (a much darker show could let it stand, but even then it's a bit of a Chekhov's Gun, it's a glitch itching to be solved).

I didn't mind that this wasn't a particularly funny episode (gossip rag guy vs Tahani aside), the montage Michael shows Chidi and Eleanor was properly affecting, and we're now on the way to an interesting season 4, which I expect will come out of the gate stronger than season 3 did.

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Re: The Good Place
« Reply #229 on: January 26, 2019, 04:03:59 PM »
Shit, I thought there was an episode left because Netflix counted the two-part opener as one ep and called this one episode 12. I was assuming we'd get one more episode where we see who the other two people are. Not too bothered though, as I did think it was a really sweet ending and a nice set-up for the next season.

One thing I did wonder, is it really recreating the experiment exactly if they have Tahani, Jason and Chidi there? It's a bit closer now Chidi has no memory, but the three of them also being tortured was part of the whole thing.

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Re: The Good Place
« Reply #230 on: January 26, 2019, 06:35:20 PM »
Amazing episode and William Jackson Harper delivered the hell out of those lines.

Have a listen to the podcast. Some nice behind the scenes info - like just how much acting went into the scene where Chidi and Elenor watch the film (more than you might think)

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Re: The Good Place
« Reply #231 on: January 26, 2019, 06:59:51 PM »
Was a nice surprise to see Marc Evan Jackson (Shawn) make an appearance in season nine of Curb Your Enthusiasm. He's the master of playing snooty, officious characters.

Re: The Good Place
« Reply #232 on: January 26, 2019, 07:31:16 PM »
Am I being thick or is Chidi asking for the memory wipe purely so it won't be awkward with bad Australian accent ex, if so that's a bit of a dickhead move like. Destroying your cosy, potentially eternal relationship with the woman you love because you can't hold it together like the other 3, again, am I missing something?

Obviously Eleanor being the architect would make things complicated regardless, and they usually find each other but still, seems selfish from Chidi rather than a selfless act to save them all from eternal torture.

Thought the season was patchy overall but I'm well up for another season.

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Re: The Good Place
« Reply #233 on: January 26, 2019, 07:42:24 PM »
I think I must be confused too because I thought the same thing. If that was the case, Chidi ends up looking like a massive dickhead doesn't he? I kept expecting Eleanor to say how much of an inconsiderate bellend he was being to erase their entire relationship simply for him being uncomfortable around his ex.

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Re: The Good Place
« Reply #234 on: January 26, 2019, 07:44:22 PM »
His argument is that he feels he'll definitely screw up, that because he's so anxious at one point he'll make a mistake and that will lead to all of them being tortured in hell for the rest of eternity. Which is in character, at least, but yeah, it's pretty selfish that he couldn't at least try to think of an alternative solution.

Re: The Good Place
« Reply #235 on: January 26, 2019, 07:57:05 PM »
His argument is that he feels he'll definitely screw up, that because he's so anxious at one point he'll make a mistake and that will lead to all of them being tortured in hell for the rest of eternity. Which is in character, at least, but yeah, it's pretty selfish that he couldn't at least try to think of an alternative solution.

He mentioned trying to think of other alternatives. I think he just knows himself and any chance of blowing this is too big a risk. Remember he didn't break up with her because he didn't love her but to try and protect her from the reality of the situation. He is making a massive sacrifice, even though he is also forcing Eleanor to make one too. She knows, though, that this is the only way as well

Re: The Good Place
« Reply #236 on: January 27, 2019, 12:15:04 PM »
Tahani continues to make me laugh. I love her. And Jason's pizza bit was great, too!

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Re: The Good Place
« Reply #237 on: January 27, 2019, 12:23:37 PM »
So given that the new Good Place people are the worst people for our beloved gang, who do you think the final two members will be? Given that the first two were Chidi and Tahani's it'll be for Eleanor and Jason, and unless they conveniently kill someone else off it'll have to be someone already dead, but they could use people we've met before.

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Re: The Good Place
« Reply #238 on: January 27, 2019, 12:47:53 PM »
I get it with Chidi - it's one thing to want to try, but when an eternity of torture is at stake, plus the afterlives of all human beings for the rest of time, sometimes it's better to just admit you know you'll screw it up.

For some reason I assumed the last two would be strangers again - I think I thought Maya Rudolph had said that, but I must have imagined it. It'd make sense though, or they'll have to do more memory wipes on the new arrivals.

I'm quite excited though - I'm loving how accurately horrible the nasty gossip-loving prick is, and if they're able to humanise him and make him become a better person as the experiment requires, that should make for a good season.

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Re: The Good Place
« Reply #239 on: January 27, 2019, 01:12:40 PM »
So given that the new Good Place people are the worst people for our beloved gang, who do you think the final two members will be? Given that the first two were Chidi and Tahani's it'll be for Eleanor and Jason, and unless they conveniently kill someone else off it'll have to be someone already dead, but they could use people we've met before.
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