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Film cliches you want to fuck off

Started by popcorn, September 25, 2017, 01:48:30 PM

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neveragain

Quote from: mothman on May 05, 2021, 08:28:44 PM
Coin operated porn TV.

Or one of those beds that can jerkily vibrate.

Sebastian Cobb

'Magic Fingers' I think those things are called. They're played as a shit anachronism but I think curiosity and the fact they don't seem to have made it across the pond would have most of us trying them if the opportunity presented itself.

El Unicornio, mang

Quote from: mothman on May 04, 2021, 04:09:45 PM
Grenades are like silencers, I suspect what they actually do bears little resemblance to what you see onscreen. Even allowing for the various kinds there are (the "classic" antipersonnel/fragmentation ones that used to look like pineapples but now look like baseballs; the German stick grenades[nb]There was that episode of The Prisoner, "The Girl Who Was Death" in which the stick part is merely used to fling the head part...[/nb]; incendiary or white phosphorous; and the "launched" rifle grenades which offer a variety of munitions and loads), which filmmakers rarely do.

Yeah, a grenade going off is more like a puff of dirt than a big explosion. And in real life guns with silencers sound like what non-silenced guns in movies sound like.

And people definitely don't fly backwards when shot, even with a shotgun.

Gulftastic

Quote from: El Unicornio, mang on May 06, 2021, 07:18:20 AM


And people definitely don't fly backwards when shot, even with a shotgun.

Mythbusters tested the hell out of that, even going back to it on separate episodes and confirmed what you say. They also pointed out what a recent phenomenon it is in films and TV. Go back to the cowboy films where people are getting shot loads and you don't see it.

It spoils a bit of The Sopranos for me.

dissolute ocelot

Quote from: Gulftastic on May 06, 2021, 09:25:21 AM
Mythbusters tested the hell out of that, even going back to it on separate episodes and confirmed what you say. They also pointed out what a recent phenomenon it is in films and TV. Go back to the cowboy films where people are getting shot loads and you don't see it.

It spoils a bit of The Sopranos for me.
I saw a war correspondent on TV saying that in real life when people are shot dead they just fall to the ground like their legs have just given way or something. And some people don't even notice they've been shot till they see the blood. None of which is very dramatic in comparison to people flying across the room then getting up 2 minutes later, although people coming out of a gunfight and thinking they're fine then seeing massive bulletholes has also become a bit of a cliche.

EDIT. In terms of momentum getting hit by a 15g bullet travelling at 400 miles/hour (180 meters/second) is equivalent to being hit by a 4kg cat travelling at 1.5 mph.

Blumf

Quote from: El Unicornio, mang on May 06, 2021, 07:18:20 AM
And people definitely don't fly backwards when shot, even with a shotgun.

Apparently this confuses many new soldiers when they get their first taste of combat and see shot people just dropping to the floor rather than flying backwards.

EOLAN

Quote from: dissolute ocelot on May 06, 2021, 11:15:57 AM

EDIT. In terms of momentum getting hit by a 15g bullet travelling at 400 miles/hour (180 meters/second) is equivalent to being hit by a 4kg cat travelling at 1.5 mph.

The whole "back and to the left" as a crucial central point in the film JFK never really rang true to me.

Jerzy Bondov

Quote from: Blumf on May 06, 2021, 01:26:48 PM
Apparently this confuses many new soldiers when they get their first taste of combat and see shot people just dropping to the floor rather than flying backwards.
Soldier shooting a child dead for the first time: what the fuck dude this sucks

Brundle-Fly

Sneaking into an office to find a specific file/ rifling through drawers in the villain's study but getting caught. 

Voice off-camera: "Did you find what you were looking for?




olliebean

That damn "do-bop sh-bop" song that turns up whenever they want an eerie 50's vibe.

Gurke and Hare

Possibly more of a TV one, but police, on seeing someone doing something like trying to break into a car giving them a fair chance to get away by shouting "Oi! Police!" instead of quietly walking up behind them.

C_Larence

Quote from: olliebean on May 14, 2021, 10:24:10 AM
That damn "do-bop sh-bop" song that turns up whenever they want an eerie 50's vibe.

I only have eyes for you?

Ballad of Ballard Berkley

Or Sh-Boom by The Chords? Or just any doo-wop song in general?

olliebean

Quote from: C_Larence on May 14, 2021, 03:40:10 PM
I only have eyes for you?

Yes, that's the one (the Flamingos version).

JesusAndYourBush

Quote from: Gurke and Hare on May 14, 2021, 02:22:14 PM
Possibly more of a TV one, but police, on seeing someone doing something like trying to break into a car giving them a fair chance to get away by shouting "Oi! Police!" instead of quietly walking up behind them.

Also many cases of the police arriving with sirens blaring when they'd have been better to not use the sirens and not ruin the element of surprise.

purlieu

Quote from: JesusAndYourBush on May 14, 2021, 05:24:13 PM
Also many cases of the police arriving with sirens blaring when they'd have been better to not use the sirens and not ruin the element of surprise.
Yeah, that's less a film / TV cliche and more something that happens in real life because they're a bunch of idiots.

Clownbaby

Tangible deliberate silence vaccuum right before a jumpscare, letting you know that there is in fact going to be a jumpscare

kngen

Re: people being shot.

Two interesting things I learned from David Simon's Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets.

If someone is not fatally shot, they tend to fall over because they feel like they're meant to, as that's what happens in the movies.

If you're shot and are lucky enough for the bullet not strike a major organ, you really want to have been shot by a bigger calibre bullet, as that will exit out of the other side. Can't remember if it was Simon who went into specifics, or some other research I read elsewhere subsequently, but .22s are responsible for far more deaths than bigger calibre bullets (aside from direct hits on organs) because they don't have to the mass to create an exit wound , and thus bounce around inside like a tiny pinball puncturing lungs etc, and just generally fucking your shit up.

jobotic

Quote from: purlieu on May 14, 2021, 09:07:53 PM
Yeah, that's less a film / TV cliche and more something that happens in real life because they're a bunch of idiots.

If they don't though the traffic won't get out of the way.

lipsink

In romcoms a guy and a girl will arrange to meet some time and one of them will say: "Great! See you then. It's a date!" and then they'll awkwardly say: "I mean...it's not a date...it's just 2 people meeting."

Brundle-Fly

Somebody being aggressively thrown a shovel to find something buried or to dig a grave. That look they give when they hit something hard with the spade can do one too.

Icehaven

Quote from: Brundle-Fly on May 17, 2021, 03:57:49 PM
Somebody being aggressively thrown a shovel to find something buried or to dig a grave. That look they give when they hit something hard with the spade can do one too.

Also vomiting while digging up a body.

JesusAndYourBush

Quote from: jobotic on May 17, 2021, 11:42:34 AM
If they don't though the traffic won't get out of the way.

It's usually in some out-of-the-way place late at night though, like an old farmhouse at 2am.

"The gang are holed up at the old farmhouse, maybe we can catch them by surprise".
WOO WOO WOO WOO WOO WOO WOO WOO WOO WOO WOO.

olliebean

Giving a lawyer a single dollar bill so as to nominally hire them and invoke attorney-client privilege.

SteveDave


lipsink

Two people outside. One of them is smoking. The other one asks what has happened. The one smoking tells them bad news. The other one takes the cigarette off them and starts smoking it.

neveragain

Would work just as well in a comedy as well as a drama, that one. Depending on the speed of the grab.

Fambo Number Mive

Only the main character is able to put up any resistance against the serial killer

Police officers making a tedious quip based on the rights they have to read a person arrested. Also getting annoyed when a criminal doesn't immediately say they understand their rights.

lipsink

Or a cop reading a criminal their rights and the criminal spits in their face. The cop suddenly stops their dialogue and closes their eyes. The higher ranking the cop the better.

When the comedy film travels to "London, England", characters stand outside Buckingham Palace and try to make the guards in big hats laugh/flinch.