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Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #210 on: August 10, 2018, 05:56:01 PM »
Try "It's a Good Life If You Don't Weaken" by Seth as well.

Or American Splendor.

Or Crumb's autobiographical stuff.

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Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #211 on: August 10, 2018, 10:26:30 PM »
Mister Miracle - A 12 issue mini-series (though only 10 have been published so far) by Tom King, the writer of the superb Vision mini-series. It starts off in a pretty shocking way as we learn that Mister Miracle attempted suicide recently, and that Oberon died of cancer, but it isn't all grim dark stuff and the subjects are handled in a sensitive way.

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Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #212 on: August 11, 2018, 03:11:04 AM »
Mister Miracle - A 12 issue mini-series (though only 10 have been published so far) by Tom King, the writer of the superb Vision mini-series. It starts off in a pretty shocking way as we learn that Mister Miracle attempted suicide recently, and that Oberon died of cancer, but it isn't all grim dark stuff and the subjects are handled in a sensitive way.

The art by Mitch Gerads is exceptional. Superbly crafted without being too arty.

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Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #213 on: August 11, 2018, 03:56:21 PM »
The art by Mitch Gerads is exceptional. Superbly crafted without being too arty.

I meant to mention that, it truly is stunning isn't it, and suits the material beautifully. I've read some of Tom King's current Batman run and can't say it really does it for me but I loved The Vision mini-series and this, so really must check out his other work.

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Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #214 on: August 16, 2018, 03:54:32 PM »
I knocked Tom King's Batman run above, largely as the marriage of Batman stuff came to such a disappointing conclusion, but I've read the three most recent issues and liked them. It basically sees Bruce on the jury for a court case which could see Mr Freeze sent down for murder after Batman captured him, but in a 12 Angry Men kind of way he attempts to persuade the jury that Bats might have fucked up and this time around Freeze is innocent. There are certain parts which explore Batman's effect on Gotham that I didn't necessarily agree with, but it's an interesting idea that King explores in a decent way, and I liked the ending to it a lot.

Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #215 on: August 16, 2018, 06:51:45 PM »
I knocked Tom King's Batman run above, largely as the marriage of Batman stuff came to such a disappointing conclusion.

I dare say it hasn't concluded. King has said he's halfway through a hundred-issue story about Batman and Catwoman, and I don't think he's a Snyder-style Twitter bullshitter.

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Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #216 on: August 17, 2018, 12:41:14 AM »
I knocked Tom King's Batman run above, largely as the marriage of Batman stuff came to such a disappointing conclusion

Like many, #50 was the first Batman comic I've picked up in a while.
Can't say much for the story, I was more distracted disappointed by the artists gallery style of pages.
Not the concept, just that in this day and age - how are professional comic book artists unable to draw realistic breasts? More to the point, breasts under fabric.
I swear some still think that they are solid cartoonish orbs. Frank Cho gets complaints for his more salacious work but at least he's studied anatomy.


Sorry. Rant over.

Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #217 on: August 17, 2018, 08:30:52 AM »
Sex sells boss. I can't help but think that because it's so widespread it must be editorially mandated. Surely not all male artists are perverts, or have never seen women, like.

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Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #218 on: August 17, 2018, 11:48:49 AM »
I dare say it hasn't concluded. King has said he's halfway through a hundred-issue story about Batman and Catwoman, and I don't think he's a Snyder-style Twitter bullshitter.

I get that, but I would have been really interested to see 50 issues of Bats in a permanent relationship, and less of the grim dark stuff where he's even more miserable than ever. That's not to say he won't get together with Catwoman at some point, but if it's towards the end of King's run then who knows what the next writer might do. I don't think I'm in the minority readership-wise either, as a lot of the feedback to issue 50 that I've read online was incredibly negative.

Like many, #50 was the first Batman comic I've picked up in a while.
Can't say much for the story, I was more distracted disappointed by the artists gallery style of pages.
Not the concept, just that in this day and age - how are professional comic book artists unable to draw realistic breasts? More to the point, breasts under fabric.
I swear some still think that they are solid cartoonish orbs. Frank Cho gets complaints for his more salacious work but at least he's studied anatomy.


Sorry. Rant over.

Yeah, it is pretty sickening. I'm sure there was all a bit of a fuss about this a couple of years ago and both DC and Marvel recognised it as an issue, and said things would change, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

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Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #219 on: August 18, 2018, 06:02:12 PM »
Re: Perverted artists, there's an article about this on the BBC site right now as a female artist has redrawn various covers with men instead of women barely wearing anything - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-45149478

One of the comics she's parodied is John Byrne's run on The Sensational She-Hulk though which I think misses the point a little, as that series was well known for spoofing such things.


Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #220 on: August 18, 2018, 06:59:43 PM »
There is something about Spiderman just wearing the mask and nothing else that is way too funny to make a serious point.

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Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #221 on: August 19, 2018, 12:16:30 AM »
I'm reminded that Dan Slott's otherwise excellent re-boot of She-Hulk in the early 2000s was adorned with covers like this, courtesy of the appropriately named Greg Horn.




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Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #222 on: August 19, 2018, 09:42:40 AM »
That horse’s face! LOLZ, as the kids say.

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Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #223 on: August 19, 2018, 07:30:49 PM »
Sex sells boss.

Yeah, and while I don’t mind sexy - we’re talking about tightly clad beings at peak physical fitness - not being able to draw anatomy brings it into being tawdry.

I'm reminded that Dan Slott's otherwise excellent re-boot of She-Hulk in the early 2000s was adorned with covers like this, courtesy of the appropriately named Greg Horn.

Ah yes. One of the notorious Gregs of the 2000s -the other being Land. Both seemed to actively trace playboy models and pornstars for their models. Horn is another one that believes fabric hugs to every surface


You’d probably decline the offer to see their studios.

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Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #224 on: August 20, 2018, 05:17:00 AM »
On a different note, anyone caught the new Bendis/Gaydos series Pearl?

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Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #225 on: August 20, 2018, 10:57:52 AM »
Just read the first issue now and really liked it, the art is stunning and the story fairly interesting. I'll probably wait a good few months before reading more of it though as I'm struggling to wait a month at a time for each new issue of things right now. Especially when there's even more than a months gap *glares at Black Hammer: Age of Doom*.

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« Reply #226 on: August 20, 2018, 09:02:34 PM »
Yeah, for a writer who packs in the dialogue, Bendis’ work - especially some of his ‘indie’ stuff - can be scant on progression and activity.

Pearl is great, the upcoming Cover looks likewise, but I might just wait for the collections. Scarlet took an age, i’ve Genuinely no idea where things are with Powers - the ordering and restarting was really damn confusing - and no idea where I left off that series.

I’ve tried the Bendis Superman, but still cold. I think I’ll only ever be interested in the Silver Age nonsense version of that character. In modern terms, Supes’ cyphers Have done had the more interesting stories.

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Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #227 on: August 20, 2018, 09:38:33 PM »
Yeah, for a writer who packs in the dialogue, Bendis’ work - especially some of his ‘indie’ stuff - can be scant on progression and activity.

Pearl is great, the upcoming Cover looks likewise, but I might just wait for the collections. Scarlet took an age, i’ve Genuinely no idea where things are with Powers - the ordering and restarting was really damn confusing - and no idea where I left off that series.

I'm the same with Powers, I was enjoying it a lot but lost track and aren't sure where to restart. The same thing happened with Kurt Busiek's Astro City as well, though given how long ago it was that I read it, and that I used to smoke a lot back then, I could probably do with starting it again from the beginning.

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I’ve tried the Bendis Superman, but still cold. I think I’ll only ever be interested in the Silver Age nonsense version of that character. In modern terms, Supes’ cyphers Have done had the more interesting stories.

I've yet to read that but will do at some point, I'm not Bendis's biggest fan but do like a fair bit of his work.

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Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #228 on: August 25, 2018, 05:58:52 PM »
Just read the first issue of The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: The Tempest. It's suitably wacky.

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Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #229 on: August 26, 2018, 09:14:49 AM »
Just read the first issue of The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: The Tempest. It's suitably wacky.

I did not know they were still at it.
Have to admit that Century left me cold and the references more obvious, but I wonder if that is more to do with familiarity.

Is this meant to be Moore's last ever comics project?

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« Reply #230 on: August 26, 2018, 11:04:02 AM »
That's what this says.  I hadn't heard about this, nor Moore's comics career ending, I'm a bit startled now.  I liked Century alright, although the Harry Potter stuff kind of leaves me cold.  I suppose I'll read this when it's collected.

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Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #231 on: August 26, 2018, 07:59:28 PM »
I liked Century alright, although the Harry Potter stuff kind of leaves me cold.  I suppose I'll read this when it's collected.

I suppose the further we get from the Harry P phenomena (and other recent references) chronologically, the less on-the-nose it will seem. Maybe?

Bloody Hell. The whole LOEG thing started 20years ago.

And let's not forget, the experience of the film was so bad, Stephen Norrington decided to never direct another film.

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Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #232 on: August 26, 2018, 09:10:43 PM »
Just read the first issue of The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: The Tempest. It's suitably wacky.

It's great. Really packs in the content. Kicks off with a tribute to Leo Baxendale and then hits the creativity accelerator. This could be quite the finale after the less enthralling Nemo series.

I just hope that this is a fairly straight forward run with no months long gaps in between.

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« Reply #233 on: August 27, 2018, 10:36:19 AM »
And let's not forget, the experience of the film was so bad, Stephen Norrington decided to never direct another film.

Same with Connery and acting, apparently.

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Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #234 on: August 27, 2018, 12:58:54 PM »
I love Moore's classic works but have lost track of him over recent years, out of interest when do folks feel was the last time he wrote something truly great?

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« Reply #235 on: August 29, 2018, 06:28:27 PM »
I love Moore's classic works but have lost track of him over recent years, out of interest when do folks feel was the last time he wrote something truly great?

Providence

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Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #236 on: August 31, 2018, 12:40:21 AM »
I did not know they were still at it.
Have to admit that Century left me cold and the references more obvious, but I wonder if that is more to do with familiarity.

Yeah, it has its moments, but 'Century' didn't quite have the magic of the first few LOEGs. This has a slightly merrier feel to it, and there's more issues to come of course.

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Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #237 on: September 05, 2018, 12:52:23 AM »
Providence

Thanks for the recommendation, I've been reading this over the past few days and enjoyed it a lot, and whilst it's not up there with Moore's best work it's definitely very, very good. My only complaint is that I found the art a little bland, it's strong when it comes to the weirder elements (the rat creature suckling on the old woman for instance, the old redneck screwing his daughter, the dancing headless corpses, and indeed most of the final two issues) but fairly bland elsewhere, and I did find myself wishing that a better artist had been involved. I've also minor issues with the full frontal nudity of the thirteen year old, in the context of the story it's an important moment but I don't think we needed to see her naked, and the same applies with our hero fucking a seventeen year old boy. Would be interested to know why Moore thought it was a good idea, and how he gets around the legal side of such a matter.

One other thing is that I'm really glad this exists - https://factsprovidence.wordpress.com/moore-lovecraft-comics-annotation-index/providence-11/ - as there were characters in issue 11 who confused as I wasn't sure who they were, and if anyone else reads the series I'd recommend checking that site out.

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Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #238 on: September 05, 2018, 10:30:42 AM »
Just finished ‘My Friend Dahmer’, by Derf Backderf. Grimly fascinating. An account of Dahmer’s high school days as told by a classmate of his. How high school authorities/parents didn’t pick up on him is astounding.
Loved the artwork, and the storytelling was great.

Re: The All New Comics Thread 2017+ Edition
« Reply #239 on: September 05, 2018, 08:13:53 PM »
I've been meaning to ask this but always forget, so the recent Moore talk has given me a good reminder:

Is Alan Moore likely to be a millionaire? He's written at least one book (Watchmen) that as far as I know hasn't ever been out of print. Surely even before he severed his DC ties he made a fair bit of money off of that, V and the others.

I know he lives a supposedly very modest lifestyle, but aye, what do you think? Millionaire like?