Topic: Star Trek 4 by Quentin Tarantino?

[Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth]

Pine's doing TV and supporting roles these days so he might be hungry for it before long.

It was one of those posh miniseries though and he's got the Wonder Woman sequel this year, so he's probably not hard up just yet.

Never mind the Hollywood Chrises. What about Zoe Saldana? She's the lead in two other big sci-fi film series, so is she going to be particularly bothered about returning to play fifth fiddle in Trek?

[mothman]

Probably not. But with three to five years between Guardians films, and how much work she’ll actually need to do for what’s basically a CGI animated movie with a few live action elements, it’s not like she’ll be rushed off her feet. If anything she’d be more likely to sack off Trek just to avoid typecasting as a SF-only player.

Only just now looked at Pine’s filmography. Post-ST Beyond, it’s not great, is it? His TV show (is it a limited series?) is a bit of a prestige piece like many big-name actors are doing these days, so that alone doesn’t mean his days as a big movie lead are over... but it may be that (ironically) where once his casting in WW was so as to to have a significant male lead attached (to quell studio jitters that “comic book nerds won’t go see a movie about a GIRL”), now his inclusion in the sequel is them doing HIM a favour!

[Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth]

Probably not. But with... how much work she’ll actually need to do for what’s basically a CGI animated movie with a few live action elements, it’s not like she’ll be rushed off her feet

It's motion capture animation though. She may not have to spend six hours having makeup applied every day, but I don't think the role requires any less of her time otherwise. And they're making something silly like four Avatar films.

Then again, she is forty, which is pensionable age for women in Hollywood, so maybe she won't be turning down roles while she can.

[Mister Six]

Forty! Jesus Christ, black really don't crack, eh?

[Mobbd]

People are still talking about this. Good thing in my book: I like Star Trek but all efforts to bring it back over the past 10 years (18 if you include Enterprise) have been quite fantastically tone-deaf. QT at least has a fucking brain and a vision. If nothing else, here's his take on the post-2009 guff:

JJ can't explain it to me. [...] I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. Fuck that. [...] Ignore it! Nobody likes it.

https://youtu.be/hrJmV2jCq20?t=14

[Sin Agog]

People are still talking about this. Good thing in my book: I like Star Trek but all efforts to bring it back over the past 10 years (18 if you include Enterprise) have been quite fantastically tone-deaf. QT at least has a fucking brain and a vision. If nothing else, here's his take on the post-2009 guff:

https://youtu.be/hrJmV2jCq20?t=14

Rewatching Enterprise right now and it's really good.  Shite first season that felt firmly ensconced in George Bush Jr.'s America (Trip even looks exactly like a blonde G.W.), but otherwise it's good shit, especially when it heats up the arcs, like every Star Trek.

[Blumf]

...especially when it heats up the arcs, like every Star Trek.

Except TOS and most of TNG. You know, the main ones.

[Mister Six]

"Like most of Star Trek", then.

[bgmnts]

I hope he calls it Once Upon a Time in The Final Frontier.

[Ballad of Ballard Berkley]

People are still talking about this. Good thing in my book: I like Star Trek but all efforts to bring it back over the past 10 years (18 if you include Enterprise) have been quite fantastically tone-deaf. QT at least has a fucking brain and a vision. If nothing else, here's his take on the post-2009 guff:

https://youtu.be/hrJmV2jCq20?t=14

So according to that interview, Tarantino wants to make a Star Trek film starring the actors who play Kirk and Spock in the Abrams films, but which breaks from the continuity of those films? Isn't that needlessly confusing?

[Blumf]

Just start it with them arriving at Vulcan to pick up Spock, who's been visiting his mam.

Clears everything up and will make a lot of people happy

[bgmnts]

Just do Pulp Fiction, shot by shot, but with Star Trek characters and settings.

[kalowski]

Just do Pulp Fiction, shot by shot, but with Star Trek characters and settings.

"Check out the big brain on Worf"
"Say 'Wesley' again, mother fucker!"
"I'm the foot-fuckin'-Riker"
"Does it say 'Dead Horta Storage' outside my house?"
"Tasha Yar replicates shit fucking coffee"
"Q's dead, baby, Q's dead"
"What now?  Well let me tell you what now.  I'm gonna call a couple pipe-hittin' Cardassians, who'll go to work on Odo here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. Hear me talkin' Changeling boy?! I ain't through with you by a damn sight.  I'm gonna git Romulan on your ass."

[TwinPeaks]

So according to that interview, Tarantino wants to make a Star Trek film starring the actors who play Kirk and Spock in the Abrams films, but which breaks from the continuity of those films? Isn't that needlessly confusing?

Tarantino makes the point that he loves how they channel Shatner and Nimoy's original performances. I think he sees these films as just a way of doing more with that original team in that simpler 60s vision of the Star Trek universe, not as its own timeline and with no concern for any new canon bollocks. Seems like a great way to go for me. Seen a lot of Trek nerds moaning about it but... it just sounds too interesting an idea, having Tarantino do a Star Trek. What could be more worthwhile than that? Do you want more boring throwaway rubbish? The cast is the great thing about the recent films, that's all it needs.

[peanutbutter]

Only just now looked at Pine’s filmography. Post-ST Beyond, it’s not great, is it? His TV show (is it a limited series?) is a bit of a prestige piece like many big-name actors are doing these days, so that alone doesn’t mean his days as a big movie lead are over... but it may be that (ironically) where once his casting in WW was so as to to have a significant male lead attached (to quell studio jitters that “comic book nerds won’t go see a movie about a GIRL”), now his inclusion in the sequel is them doing HIM a favour!

Hell or High Water was one of the most acclaimed films and he held his own alongside Ben Foster and Jeff Bridges there. Coupled with his rep as being a very pleasant guy to work with I doubt he's ever gonna be short on work. There is nearly something about him that he just comes across a bit too nice, there's a serious lack of charisma to the guy.

As far as being an A-lister, I'm honestly not sure he ever was. Even the Wonder Woman casting seems like a bit of a tactical choice, he's a name and a solid hand but there's no risk of people exiting the theatre praising his performance.

[Mobbd]

I hope he calls it Once Upon a Time in The Final Frontier.

So do I. Now.

[Dex Sawash]

Just start it with them arriving at Vulcan to pick up Spock, who's been visiting his mam.

Clears everything up and will make a lot of people happy

My wife would be incredibly pleased by that