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Bond

Started by asids, December 28, 2017, 01:05:52 AM

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Dex Sawash

Quote from: biggytitbo on September 15, 2018, 08:56:39 AM

On a serious note, I want to see a trans James Bond and if you don't you're transphobic and I have no time for you.

Would rather see Jaye Davidson as next Moneypenny

a duncandisorderly

Quote from: Ant Farm Keyboard on September 14, 2018, 11:09:11 PM
Apparently, the production title for Bond 25 is "Shatterhand".


Thomas

Quote from: Ant Farm Keyboard on September 13, 2018, 01:57:19 PM
But this can be addressed and corrected easily. They only have to explain that [Blofeld] made these claims mostly to get Bond mad at him, and exaggerated a little. Like he wasn't that big an operative around Casino Royale/QoS and just provided some support for Silva. It wouldn't be entirely satisfying, but it would solve a few contradictions. And it would be coherent with how siblings tend to attack each other, in a childish way.

I think that's a very good idea. If they could dash it off in a single line of dialogue for those in the audience who care, the continuity is re-railed.

lipsink

Quote from: thecuriousorange on September 14, 2018, 08:10:33 PM
The only Ian Fleming James Bond story titles that haven't been used are "Risico" and "007 in New York". I imagine people don't know what "Risico" means but it could totally be the title of Craig's final movie. Just say it's  the codeword for a bomb or satellite or something. It sounds like a casino game and maybe even is one.

Was 'Property of A Lady' not another one?

Shaky

Quote from: Here Comes Mongo on September 15, 2018, 10:45:59 AM
I wish they'd bugger off and give someone else a chance. It seems they've been writing them since 'The World is not Enough', which is also when the series became turdulous and un-Bond like.

I tend to agree but the franchise has form when it comes to employing the same writer(s), for better or worse - Richard Maibaum co-wrote nearly every Bond from 1962 to 1989!

greenman

Quote from: Thomas on September 17, 2018, 10:32:36 AM
I think that's a very good idea. If they could dash it off in a single line of dialogue for those in the audience who care, the continuity is re-railed.

Spectre itself I think does clearly give you the impression Bloefelds rise to the top is a relatively recent thing(maybe as a response to Bonds successes against them?) so it wouldn't be that unreasonable, honestly if they wanted to feature him I think Waltz could definitely play a much less powerful/confident version of the character exposed as somewhat of a fraud.

Waltz has said he's not returning. That's OK though. Blofeld having a different head in every film is kind of his thing.

Thomas

I've just finished Gordon Corera's book MI6: Life and Death in the British Secret Service (2011), and I was surprised to read (especially as one of the more poignant tunes from Thomas Newman's score happened to be playing on my laptop) that those lines from Alfred Tennyson's poem 'Ulysses', as recited by M in Skyfall, were actually read at the memorial service for one of MI6's real-life legendary officers, Daphne Park, in 2010. I suppose it was deliberate homage by the scriptwriters.

Bad Ambassador

https://twitter.com/007/status/1042688562335047681

Official: Cary Fukunaga will direct Bond 25, with a release date of Valentine's Day 2020.

Jerzy Bondov

Interesting choice isn't it? Given he dropped out of IT just before it started shooting due to creative differences. But then in later interviews he said it wasn't because he wouldn't compromise, but because the studio thought he wouldn't compromise.

greenman

Not because he objected to Pennywise looking like a shitty juggalo mask?

kidsick5000

Quote from: Bad Ambassador on September 20, 2018, 11:41:28 AM
https://twitter.com/007/status/1042688562335047681

Official: Cary Fukunaga will direct Bond 25, with a release date of Valentine's Day 2020.

Well they just made the next film a shitload more interesting.
Fantastic news. Admittedly, they must have to stand up pretty high to pull that from their ass at the last minute.
But I really want to see what happens with this.

Hmmm...  I don't like the sounds of this ; A Good Die to Die Hard was released around the same time period.  I just can't imagine not going to see a Bond movie in the run up to Christmas.  I really have no opinion on Fukunaga... I still wish it was Boyle.

I think now is probably as good a time as any to open that True Detective Blu-ray.

kidsick5000

Quote from: goinggoinggone on September 20, 2018, 12:34:26 PM
I think now is probably as good a time as any to open that True Detective Blu-ray.

Episode 4. If that does not convert you and make you forget about this Danny Boyle nonsense, I don't know what will...

Bad Ambassador

Quote from: goinggoinggone on September 20, 2018, 12:31:34 PM
Hmmm...  I don't like the sounds of this ; A Good Die to Die Hard was released around the same time period.  I just can't imagine not going to see a Bond movie in the run up to Christmas.  I really have no opinion on Fukunaga... I still wish it was Boyle.

It's the first Bond film to be released outside summer, autumn or Christmas, but summer was the default for almost all of the 70s and 80s. Black Panther came out in February this year and Captain Marvel's scheduled for a couple of weeks later in 2019, so they're confident that this time of year will support a big release.

Thomas

Since the revitalisation of this thread, I've been thinking more about Spectre as a followup to Skyfall. In addition to all of the continuity gubbins previously discussed, it really does a poor job in retreading the themes that Skyfall managed so successfully. It's almost a failed point-by-point version of its predecessor. Fan service, or a half-hearted tribute.

As a non-anniversary installment, Spectre had no need to pry into Bond's personal history (Skyfall only does this with careful restraint), but here we are, with dead parents and a jealous foster brother at the core of the film.

Skyfall had playful and dynamic sequences set in London, on account, again, of the Great British franchise's birthday. Spectre brings us back to a disinterested, lifeless London for some damp squib action.

The MI6 building itself makes a reappearance, indulgently and rather flatly retrodden here after its exciting and limited screentime in Skyfall. And the Aston Martin DB5, ephemerally out-of-time in 2012 and symbolically destroyed before we need ask too many questions about its provenance, is hauled back onscreen and literally repaired before our eyes in Q's lab.

Even the score is lazily cobbled together from bits of Skyfall's brilliant soundtrack.

2020 is ages away. I'll lose and regain interest in the silliness of James Bond many times before then.

Quote from: Bad Ambassador on September 20, 2018, 12:40:49 PM
It's the first Bond film to be released outside summer, autumn or Christmas, but summer was the default for almost all of the 70s and 80s. Black Panther came out in February this year and Captain Marvel's scheduled for a couple of weeks later in 2019, so they're confident that this time of year will support a big release.

I know that, but it still feels odd.  Goldeneye was the first one I ever saw in the cinema.

CaledonianGonzo

Holy shit. That's a great call, and out of nowhere too.

Rolf Lundgren

Any more delays and Daniel Craig will be older than Roger Moore was in A View to a Kill.

kidsick5000

Quote from: Rolf Lundgren on September 20, 2018, 06:58:57 PM
Any more delays and Daniel Craig will be older than Roger Moore was in A View to a Kill.

Age is not as big an issue as condition. Craig is in much better shape than most of the other Bonds.

Quote from: Bad Ambassador on September 20, 2018, 12:40:49 PM
It's the first Bond film to be released outside summer, autumn or Christmas, but summer was the default for almost all of the 70s and 80s. Black Panther came out in February this year and Captain Marvel's scheduled for a couple of weeks later in 2019, so they're confident that this time of year will support a big release.

As many smaller films have shown, if you can hit a fallow period for your genre and not be an appallingly bad film, then it's jackpot. Look at The Meg and Equalizer 2. No other action films to fight directly against, interesting premise/likeable star. Bingo.

CaledonianGonzo

More upbeat about this than I was about D. Boyle.

Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth

Quote from: kidsick5000 on September 20, 2018, 08:39:36 PM
Age is not as big an issue as condition. Craig is in much better shape than most of the other Bonds.
Maybe so, but he has the face of a Boglin.

biggytitbo

The older the Bond the better imo, I'd have Connery back tbh and he's about 90. Just use a stunt double for the scenes where he needs to get out of a chair.

greenman

Begin defrosting David Niven's moustache.

kidsick5000

Quote from: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on September 20, 2018, 10:31:51 PM
Maybe so, but he has the face of a Boglin.

Bit late late to make it an issue now, he always did.
When he was first rumoured to be getting the role, I described him as having the face of a failed boxer. Sid James' love child.

CaledonianGonzo

Whatever the issues with SPECTRE (or his other movies if they haven't clicked for you), none of them are Craig's performance in the role.

How would you feel about a James Bond project that's for TV/a streaming service? Something "Sherlock" size, in terms of budget.

The problem with faithfully adapting the original books is that James Bond has become a blockbuster movie brand with amped-up budgets.

A scaled-down series, for a more niche audience, based on the actual books could run paralell to the explosion-fest films. It would be set at the time of the books and the 90-minute episodes would have thier titles.

But it would mean establishing a separate James Bond world to the films and the powers-that-be might oppose it for that reason. The revenue would be a lot less, although there are Marvel things in Netflix. I bet they wouldn't like the idea of "two James Bonds" existing at once.

Thomas

Well, the Sherlock Holmes powers-that-be have been (very slowly) making their Robert Downey Jr films concurrent with the BBC series.

Of course, I haven't actually bolstered my point by Googling for matters of rights and ownership of either property.

kidsick5000

Quote from: thecuriousorange on September 22, 2018, 12:39:38 PM
How would you feel about a James Bond project that's for TV/a streaming service? Something "Sherlock" size, in terms of budget.

The problem with faithfully adapting the original books is that James Bond has become a blockbuster movie brand with amped-up budgets.

A scaled-down series, for a more niche audience, based on the actual books could run paralell to the explosion-fest films. It would be set at the time of the books and the 90-minute episodes would have thier titles.

But it would mean establishing a separate James Bond world to the films and the powers-that-be might oppose it for that reason. The revenue would be a lot less, although there are Marvel things in Netflix. I bet they wouldn't like the idea of "two James Bonds" existing at once.

Quote from: kidsick5000 on August 27, 2018, 08:57:57 PM
Apologies If I've posted this before, but...

EON should get with the streaming. Netflix, Amazon whoever and make a Tales of the 00s series.
Every episode a different Bond-ish type. Every could have been, should have been, male, female or even former Bond.
And you can pick your time period. 1900s onward. Any era, any setting. And all the while, you get to keep that precious 007 slot free.

Get that going, sate fans for a while, try out some directors, give the main movie franchise some recouperation time.