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Bond

Started by asids, December 28, 2017, 01:05:52 AM

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mothman

It's good, but is it Bond? It all sounds a bit Subway to me. The Luc Besson film that is, not the paedophile-promoted sandwiches.

popcorn

Quote from: mothman on January 02, 2018, 11:47:35 AM
It's good, but is it Bond? It all sounds a bit Subway to me. The Luc Besson film that is, not the paedophile-promoted sandwiches.

If you're referring to the soundtrack piece I linked, it's worth listening to because it's hilarious, not because it's good.

thugler

Quote from: popcorn on January 02, 2018, 04:09:12 AM
Thank you for this fascinating bit of trivia. Love stuff like this. I've got to go and find that sound now.

I think I got this from CaB in the first place years ago, but the car chase music from GoldenEye is worth examining in isolation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahi2gmwDhhw

Sounds like n64 incidental music. And not on something good like goldeneye. So weird.

itsfredtitmus

Quote from: popcorn on January 02, 2018, 04:09:12 AM
Thank you for this fascinating bit of trivia. Love stuff like this. I've got to go and find that sound now.

I think I got this from CaB in the first place years ago, but the car chase music from GoldenEye is worth examining in isolation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahi2gmwDhhw
this is amazing

bgmnts

That Goldeneye car chase music is a bit porny.

itsfredtitmus

James Bond 007: Nightfire
that were good

mothman

Quote from: popcorn on January 02, 2018, 12:07:30 PM
If you're referring to the soundtrack piece I linked, it's worth listening to because it's hilarious, not because it's good.

As I say, it's all very Subway. Where it'd fit in quite nicely, hardly surprising for a film which has Jean Reno and - I think - Serra himself in a pop band who wear pith helmets.

magval

Quote from: Rich Uncle Skeleton on January 01, 2018, 01:03:32 PM

That sound's a patch called Infinite on the Emu Proteus FX, it's the sound of a tambourine slowed way down for anyone wanting to pepper their HaHa Tape contribution with it. Bloody love it in the game especially and I like the film soundtrack a lot but get why some people can't stand it.


Which sound is this? On which track/s on the OST can it be heard? Was always interested in Serra's percussion.

mothman

I'm sure it was definitely used during the radio telescope sequences.

greenman

Quote from: bgmnts on January 02, 2018, 01:52:13 PM
That Goldeneye car chase music is a bit porny.

The Xenia character is a bit porny

Xenia Onatopp is my favourite Bond girl.

The type of campy, ridiculous, sexy character the series needed for its 90s paint job. I mean, she literally had loud, theatrical orgasms while killing men. Silly fun and it got back to the serious stuff a few years later with Daniel Craig.

bgmnts

Xenia Onatopp is the best character in Bond, bar none.

Got me through my early puberty.

Norton Canes

The big drawback with Quantum of Solace is that the average shot length is about 0.0035 seconds. Unwatchable.

Bad Ambassador

Top five Bonds: OHMSS, Licence to Kill, Casino Royale, Skyfall, GoldenEye
Bottom five: DaF, Thunderball, YOLT, FRWL, QoS

This is the correct sequence.

Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth

I believe that Bond films are like steak and whisky: Actually a bit crap for the most part, but blokes profess to like them in order to seem more manly.

Bad Ambassador

Quote from: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on January 03, 2018, 01:21:22 PM
I believe that Bond films are like steak and whisky: Actually a bit crap for the most part, but blokes profess to like them in order to seem more manly.

Masculinity signalling?

mothman

I was contemplating introducing our eldest to the Bond series, it could be our new thing (thre last time we did it was the whole Harry Potter series). But I'm not sure how she'd react to all the Connery ones, they have aged quite a lot, I don't know if a teenager would sustain interest. But at the same time, the purist in me is appalled at the idea of, say, starting partway through. Though it might make an interesting experiment to start with Lazenby first, see what she makes of it all!

Starting with Craig would be fatal, even though they're the style of movies she's more used to (she's seen Kingsman ffs). Though at least Casiono Royale is enough of a reboot to make what came before irrelevant. Brosnan's first is so self-referential, and the subsequwnt films so bad, that I wouldn't want to start there either. Startign with Dalton would be akin to starting with Lazenby. So maybe the Moores?

I'm not suggesting my daughter is an idiot with the attention span of a gnat, any more than her old dad is anyway...

mothman

Quote from: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on January 03, 2018, 01:21:22 PM
I believe that Bond films are like steak and whisky: Actually a bit crap for the most part, but blokes profess to like them in order to seem more manly.

I'm now imagining Laurence Olivier in Spartacus saying in that meaningful way "I like steak... AND whisky." Which then beomces Roger Moore saying it in the same way. But isn't that then saying all Bond fans are basically Clarksons, and equating the whole franchose with Top Gear and The Grand Tour? Mind you, most of the really diehard Bind fans I've ever observed were basically mini-Clarksons...

asids

Quote from: Bad Ambassador on January 03, 2018, 01:13:34 PM
Top five Bonds: OHMSS, Licence to Kill, Casino Royale, Skyfall, GoldenEye
Bottom five: DaF, Thunderball, YOLT, FRWL, QoS

This is the correct sequence.

Licence to Kill in the top 5? I guess it's ok, but I'd put it on the mid-to-lower range of Bond films. And YOLT and FRWL don't deserve to be anywhere close to the bottom 5. Are they worse than Die Another Day?

Anyway, I finally got around to watching Never Say Never Again last night and it was slightly better than expecting (which was terrible). The first hour or so is quite tedious and uninteresting, but then it picks up. It feels like Connery's phoning in like he did in YOLT and DaF, but if you can get past that it's alright. Just need to watch the Peter Sellers Casino Royale now.

Captain Z

What's the one where the laser beam goes up his jaffas?

Jittlebags

There's a nice cheeseyness to the soundtrack of Never Say Never.

The story about Kevin Mc Clory's involvement with Thunderball and the various ongoing legal battles eventually leading to NSNA as well as the lack of Blofeld in subsequent films in interesting.

Dr Rock

Quote from: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on January 03, 2018, 01:21:22 PM
I believe that Bond films are like steak and whisky: Actually a bit crap for the most part, but blokes profess to like them in order to seem more manly.

I'm not a massive fan, but I enjoy discussing them for the inevitable feeling of Partridegness involved.

Mr Brightside

I bloody loves all the Bond films.

Jerzy Bondov

Quote from: Jittlebags on January 03, 2018, 02:14:52 PM
There's a nice cheeseyness to the soundtrack of Never Say Never.

The story about Kevin Mc Clory's involvement with Thunderball and the various ongoing legal battles eventually leading to NSNA as well as the lack of Blofeld in subsequent films in interesting.
Love McClory. The fact that he was trying to remake Thunderball a second time (as 'Warhead 2000 AD') is great. If he'd been able to he would have just remade Thunderball over and over again. And why not? You can't say he didn't work fucking hard to try and get knock off Bond films made. Since his death of course Eon have clawed back all the rights (having got Casino Royale back as well) so we won't see the likes of NSNA or Casino 67 again.

greenman

Quote from: Norton Canes on January 03, 2018, 12:48:29 PM
The big drawback with Quantum of Solace is that the average shot length is about 0.0035 seconds. Unwatchable.

To be fare that style does lessen after the opening chase and Siena action scene.

Mr Brightside

Quote from: Jerzy Bondov on January 03, 2018, 02:48:57 PM
Love McClory. The fact that he was trying to remake Thunderball a second time (as 'Warhead 2000 AD') is great. If he'd been able to he would have just remade Thunderball over and over again. And why not? You can't say he didn't work fucking hard to try and get knock off Bond films made. Since his death of course Eon have clawed back all the rights (having got Casino Royale back as well) so we won't see the likes of NSNA or Casino 67 again.

There was actually this story from a couple of years ago. Film doesn't seem to have happened, though.

https://consequenceofsound.net/2015/11/canadian-filmmakers-to-remake-james-bond-films-after-copyright-expires/

Bad Ambassador

Quote from: asids on January 03, 2018, 01:55:56 PM
Licence to Kill in the top 5? I guess it's ok, but I'd put it on the mid-to-lower range of Bond films. And YOLT and FRWL don't deserve to be anywhere close to the bottom 5. Are they worse than Die Another Day?

Yes, they are. Misguided though it is, I'll take the neat-orange-squash energy of DAD over the lethargy of YOLT and the incoherent plotting and idiotic lead character of FRWL.

Blumf

Quote from: mothman on January 03, 2018, 01:45:15 PM
I was contemplating introducing our eldest to the Bond series, it could be our new thing (thre last time we did it was the whole Harry Potter series). But I'm not sure how she'd react to all the Connery ones, they have aged quite a lot, I don't know if a teenager would sustain interest. But at the same time, the purist in me is appalled at the idea of, say, starting partway through. Though it might make an interesting experiment to start with Lazenby first, see what she makes of it all!

How about straight in with Goldfinger? It's the canonical Bond, even if it isn't perfect. Dr No and FRWL are very dated, and I think you can safely skip them. If that doesn't work, skip straight to Moore.

popcorn

Quote from: Dr Rock on January 03, 2018, 02:20:02 PM
I'm not a massive fan, but I enjoy discussing them for the inevitable feeling of Partridegness involved.

This is correct. The essential fact of the matter is that James Bond is fucking hilarious.

Everything about him. The suits. The quips. The dickhead trumpets. Just astonishingly funny.

mothman

Quote from: Blumf on January 03, 2018, 03:38:59 PM
How about straight in with Goldfinger? It's the canonical Bond, even if it isn't perfect. Dr No and FRWL are very dated, and I think you can safely skip them. If that doesn't work, skip straight to Moore.

Ooh, there's a thought. Dr. No *is* a horrible way to start, and while FRWL gets a lot of love as the film most faithful to the book, it is awfully traveloguey. That might just work. But also maybe leave out YOLT too as it's also got that whole 50s/60s travelogue feel in places.