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What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)

Started by zomgmouse, January 07, 2018, 12:20:15 PM

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Small Man Big Horse

Quote from: Shit Good Nose on August 29, 2018, 12:29:35 PM
I've not seen it, but when I took Little Nose to see Boss Baby when it came out in EASTER 2017 one of the trailers was for Show Dogs.  And it wasn't a teaser, it was a proper trailer.  I'm assuming the lengthy delay between that trailer and it actually being released is down to the canine nonceing/rape/sexual abuse/whatever the correct (Ex poster) approved terminology is that was cut and re-written.

Anyway, Mrs Nose took Little Nose to see it last week and they both enjoyed it.

They only actually cut the footage after it had been out at the cinema for a couple of weeks, and it's not been rewritten so that part of the ending doesn't make much sense at all. Fortunately the cut scenes are on youtube, the second of which is a thing of bizarre beauty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayZhiVSOWBs

the science eel


Shit Good Nose

Quote from: Small Man Big Horse on August 29, 2018, 12:44:11 PM
They only actually cut the footage after it had been out at the cinema for a couple of weeks, and it's not been rewritten so that part of the ending doesn't make much sense at all. Fortunately the cut scenes are on youtube, the second of which is a thing of bizarre beauty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayZhiVSOWBs

Interesting.

Any idea why it took over a year to actually be released?

Small Man Big Horse

Quote from: Shit Good Nose on August 29, 2018, 12:49:14 PM
Interesting.

Any idea why it took over a year to actually be released?

Afraid not, though it's not uncommon for studios to delay the release of a film when they know it's fairly shitty stuff.

zomgmouse

The Company of Wolves. Remarkable the way it flits between worlds and the wolf transformations are beautifully disturbing. Dream and folk tale and terrific horror fantasy.

Shit Good Nose

Quote from: Small Man Big Horse on August 29, 2018, 01:09:52 PM
Afraid not, though it's not uncommon for studios to delay the release of a film when they know it's fairly shitty stuff.

Is it that bad though?

I mean you obviously loved it, as did Mrs Nose and Little Nose and, in fact, everyone else I know who has seen it.

Got to be better than most of the other summer holiday kids films I've taken Little Nose to.  Duck Duck Goose - fuuuuuuuucking hell....

Blumf

Quote from: zomgmouse on August 29, 2018, 04:30:38 PM
The Company of Wolves. Remarkable the way it flits between worlds and the wolf transformations are beautifully disturbing. Dream and folk tale and terrific horror fantasy.

Still don't get why this film doesn't get more love.

Small Man Big Horse

Quote from: Shit Good Nose on August 29, 2018, 04:34:19 PM
Is it that bad though?

I mean you obviously loved it, as did Mrs Nose and Little Nose and, in fact, everyone else I know who has seen it.

Got to be better than most of the other summer holiday kids films I've taken Little Nose to.  Duck Duck Goose - fuuuuuuuucking hell....

I didn't think so, but I have a real weakness for talking animal films and love dogs to pieces, so I was it's target audience really. But I originally began watching it in the mood to mock, and half way through found myself enjoying it, there are some really dodgy bits and weak gags but I couldn't help but be charmed by it. That all said, most of the critics savaged it, not that I have much time for it but on Rotten Tomatoes it only has 17%.

St_Eddie

Quote from: zomgmouse on August 29, 2018, 04:30:38 PM
The Company of Wolves. Remarkable the way it flits between worlds and the wolf transformations are beautifully disturbing. Dream and folk tale and terrific horror fantasy.

Fan-fucking-tastic film.  Love it.

jobotic

Watched Star Trek:The Motion Picture for the first time a couple of nights ago. Not really my bag, and the acting is terrible, but I did like the slooow moving plot and the effects, both visual and sound, were lovely to watch.

The Wrath of Khan was on last night. Looked like the TV show. Arsed.



Small Man Big Horse


Custard

The Wrath Of Khan is great! Best Trek thing for me, by miles

JJ Abrams clearly agrees, as he recently remade it as Star Trek Into Darkness. But unfortunately forgot to make it good

SteveDave

Quote from: Small Man Big Horse on August 30, 2018, 03:33:12 PM
Are you Archibald or Abel?

I've not seen it yet but it was filmed (partly) in Welsh Wales and he was one of the (many) photographers who had to look stunned at their cameras.

hedgehog90

Finally saw Herzog's Heart of Glass last night.



I liked it but I don't know why.
It had a certain hypnotic quality, but that's as much as I can say about it.
Certainly one of the strangest films I've seen in quite a while.




Edit - Well I'll be fucked:

QuoteDuring shooting, almost all of the actors performed while under hypnosis. Every actor in every scene was hypnotized, with the exception of the character Hias and the professional glassblowers who appear in the film. The hypnotized actors give very strange performances, which Herzog intended to suggest the trance-like state of the townspeople in the story. Herzog provided the actors with most of their dialogue, memorised during hypnosis. However, many of the hypnotised actors' gestures and movements occurred spontaneously during filming.

I sort of knew it on some level while I was watching it (hypnotic), but I couldn't quite put my finger on it.
Amazing!
I almost want to watch it again now.

Shit Good Nose

Both volumes of Kill Bill, back-to-back.

I hadn't seen them since they first came out, so thought I'd give them another whirl.

You really could make a QT film by just editing together 3 to 4 minute scenes from about 100 other (often much better) genre films.

Admittedly I'm not a huge QT fan - I (still) think Pulp Fiction is great, and Jackie Brown is watchable, but dislike the rest very much - but fuck me, I really don't think he's capable of doing anything other than stealing other peoples' ideas and massively over-writing scripts.

Having said that, volume 2 wasn't quite as bad as I'd remembered.  Having said that, enough with the fucking Hanzo sword already, and do we really need a ten minute speech about Superman and Batman at the end? (rhetorical)

Also - can someone remind me if the bleeping of Beatrix's name was present in the original cinema release?  I didn't remember it.

St_Eddie

Quote from: Shit Good Nose on August 31, 2018, 02:50:40 PM
...Also - can someone remind me if the bleeping of Beatrix's name was present in the original cinema release?  I didn't remember it.

Yes, it was.


amputeeporn

Mona Lisa - the Bob Hoskins London noir.

Phwoar, this was great. Knowingly fun and genre but just gorgeously shot - seedy 80s London has never looked better and the script was a lot of fun. An appropriately downbeat ending with a sliver of hope made this one of the better films I've seen recently.

Would love any recommendations of similar British noir with arty aspirations? I found it far more enjoyable than Get Carter. Gonna watch The Long Good Friday tmw (which I've also never seen!)

Blumf

Quote from: amputeeporn on September 01, 2018, 12:11:11 AM
Gonna watch The Long Good Friday tmw (which I've also never seen!)

Was going to suggest that, you'll like it.

The Squeeze (1977) is well worth a look too.

Not quiet in the same league, but Croupier (1998) and I'll Sleep When I'm Dead (2003) might be worth a punt (if you can stomach Clive Owen)

amputeeporn

Quote from: Blumf on September 01, 2018, 12:38:31 AM
Was going to suggest that, you'll like it.

The Squeeze (1977) is well worth a look too.

Not quiet in the same league, but Croupier (1998) and I'll Sleep When I'm Dead (2003) might be worth a punt (if you can stomach Clive Owen)

These sound great, and have been added to the list - many thanks!

hedgehog90

Watched Solaris last night.
Not my bag.
I liked the meditative shots of a creek at the beginning, but the rest of it just felt like a very long episode of The Twilight Zone.
Is there some subtext about the Soviet Union and thought control? Not arsed, really.
The ending was ok but I saw it from a mile off.
And while this type of thing never usually bothers me, the space station set and the special effects were distractingly awful (that space capsule launch... Christ.)

I haven't seen any of Tarkovsky's other films, but I think I'll enjoy them more than this. Might try The Mirror next because it's shorter.

hedgehog90

#1253
Quote from: the science eel on August 29, 2018, 12:47:47 PM
I adore that film.

Can't get with Aguirre at all, tho'.

I listened to Herzog's commentary track on Stroszek the other day, which I'd recommend if you haven't heard it already.
It was wonderful to realise how much of the film was true to life.

- Bruno really spent most of his life in and out of institutions. The apartment and his instruments were his own. The references to his past, how he was made to stand in the courtyard all day holding his wet bed sheets to dry them, were also real unfortunately.
- The pimp was actually a famous wrestler/boxer (also played Vigo in Ghostbusters 2) but had a similar sleazy background in pimping and violence. Here's a famous interview with him from 1969 which Herzog refers to. It's intense!
- The mechanic fixed Herzog's car once. When Herzog returned years later he asked about the Native American who worked for him, this guy worked for the mechanic for 1 day supposedly - the day Herzog encountered them - before getting fired. Herzog found him and put him in the film.
- The truckers were just trucking, the farmers were just farming, and the hunters with the deer on the bonnet were just hunting. The only professional actor in the entire film I think was Eva.
- And Scheitz (the little old guy who appears in so many of Herzog's films, as shown in that wonderful GIF from Heart of Glass upthread) really believed in his theory of animal magnetism, Herzog affectionately recounts some other mad things he believed in.

Probably my favourite Herzog film, just behind Nosferatu.

Shit Good Nose

Quote from: hedgehog90 on September 01, 2018, 11:10:39 AM
Watched Solaris last night.
Not my bag.
I liked the meditative shots of a creek at the beginning, but the rest of it just felt like a very long episode of The Twilight Zone.
Is there some subtext about the Soviet Union and thought control? Not arsed, really.
The ending was ok but I saw it from a mile off.
And while this type of thing never usually bothers me, the space station set and the special effects were distractingly awful (that space capsule launch... Christ.)

I haven't seen any of Tarkovsky's other films, but I think I'll enjoy them more than this. Might try The Mirror next because it's shorter.

I love Solaris, but yeah - the biggest special effect in the film is traffic lights reflected off a space helmet visor.

My favourite Tarkovsky film is Andrei Rublev.  I heartily recommend it.  It's long and has a similarly slow pace, but visually it's a much richer film so not as distracting as a 70s Soviet sci-fi.


Quote from: hedgehog90 on September 01, 2018, 12:00:44 PM
I listened to Herzog's commentary track on Stroszek the other day, which I'd recommend if you haven't heard it already.
It was wonderful to realise how much of the film was true to life.

- Bruno really spent most of his life in and out of institutions. The apartment and his instruments were his own. The references to his past, how he was made to stand in the courtyard all day holding his wet bed sheets to dry them, were also real unfortunately.
- The pimp was actually a famous wrestler/boxer (also played Vigo in Ghostbusters 2) but had a similar sleazy background in pimping and violence. Here's a famous interview with him from 1969 which Herzog refers to. It's intense!
- The mechanic fixed Herzog's car once. When Herzog returned years later he asked about the Native American who worked for him, this guy worked for the mechanic for 1 day supposedly - the day Herzog encountered them - before getting fired. Herzog found him and put him in the film.
- The truckers were just trucking, the farmers were just farming, and the hunters with the deer on the bonnet were just hunting. The only professional actor in the entire film I think was Eva.
- And Scheitz (the little old guy who appears in so many of Herzog's films, as shown in that wonderful GIF from Heart of Glass upthread) really believed in his theory of animal magnetism, Herzog affectionately recounts some other mad things he believed in.

Probably my favourite Herzog film, just behind Nosferatu.

Bear in mind that yer man Herzog, whilst not an outright bullshitter, does tend to exaggerate and embellish.  If you remember when he got shot by an air rifle during an interview with Mark Kermode a few years ago, the likelihood is that it ricocheted off something, or it was just someone randomly shooting in the air from a distance, whilst soon after calmly brushing it off, Herzog was intimating in all sincerity in interviews that it could have been an assassination attempt.  So take some of what he says with a few grains of salt.  Especially when you consider that even mentalist Klaus Kinski called him out on a few things during their tempestuous relationship.

Having said all that, one of my favourite directors.  Fitzcarraldo for me all the way, but what an incredible run of films - rarely a dud in them and he's been churning them out one or two a year since he started.  Granted, the quality of his fictional features has waned since the 90s (and his most recent two - Queen of the Desert and Salt and fire [particularly Salt and Fire] are verging on proper dogshit), but his docs are still generally amazing.

greenman

Quote from: Shameless Custard on August 30, 2018, 03:51:54 PM
The Wrath Of Khan is great! Best Trek thing for me, by miles

JJ Abrams clearly agrees, as he recently remade it as Star Trek Into Darkness. But unfortunately forgot to make it good

Yep I'd agree still the best thing with the Trek name on it by some way, don't agree it looks cheap either even with the reduced budget compared to the original.

As ever Abrams like the idea of nostalgia about Wrath of Khan whilst not really caring much about the film itself sticking to his same "throw random nonsense at people so fast they don't notice it makes no sense" style.

Z

Girl's Trip
I had extremely high hopes for this one tbh, it just looked like it'd be really fun.
Had some funny bits but overall just kinda dragged. Mostly blame the cast dynamic tbh. Tiffany Haddish was great in what was almost certainly a breakout role and Jadah Pinkett Smith done a good job with a pretty weak character but the other two (the main two) were thoroughly meh.

Psmith

Family Plot.Not rated by Hitchcockians but I thought it quite amusing.
I was fascinated by his use of colour particularly in the early scenes.

amputeeporn

Grosse Pointe Blank

Ha! Very fun but my god, very nineties. The world really was a more innocent (maybe better) and less knowing place: wearing your enormous, figure-hiding clothes, drinking and driving, driving a convertible car and living in a mansion off your cushy gig on local radio.

Shout out to Minnie Driver, though, who was genuinely beguiling, I thought.

Shit Good Nose

Quote from: Psmith on September 01, 2018, 09:58:55 PM
Family Plot.Not rated by Hitchcockians but I thought it quite amusing.
I was fascinated by his use of colour particularly in the early scenes.

I'm no fan of it myself, but it suffers the same major problem as Frenzy, in that the acting is pretty terrible.