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« Reply #180 on: April 10, 2020, 07:13:25 PM »
Just got my ticket. I'm going. Although I suspect this might not entirely be a "true fan" crowd. Welsh Manics gigs rarely are, but y'know.

Fucking cheap, though, for an arena gig.

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« Reply #181 on: April 10, 2020, 08:14:25 PM »
I've got tickets for this NHS one. Never seen them before, would have gone to my grave that way but for a freebie. That's two easter eggs and a gig ticket in as many days. I knew 15 years long service would pay off one day!

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« Reply #182 on: April 13, 2020, 04:22:33 PM »
Or maybe it'll be good.

I saw them at a couple of festivals in the nineties and they sounded identical to the way they did on record, maybe some would see that as a compliment but it also made for a drab and predictable gig that I found myself struggling with each time. Still, that was over twenty years ago so they may be a bit more exciting live now.

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« Reply #183 on: April 13, 2020, 06:28:01 PM »
I guess there's every chance this won't happen anyway. Still lots of question marks over how this virus will behave and December is right at the start of Winter Pressures. And for the free one, 5000 NHS staff in one room... this is the one thing we didn't want to happen

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« Reply #184 on: April 13, 2020, 11:34:50 PM »
Imagine the queue for the sinks.

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« Reply #185 on: April 18, 2020, 02:29:38 PM »
You know what? I genuinely think International Blue might be one of the best songs they’ve ever made

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« Reply #186 on: April 18, 2020, 09:16:19 PM »
I wouldn't go that far with International blue but it is a nice tune. But unfortunately, it's the only remotely decent song on their most recent album, which makes Lifeblood and Send away the tigers sound like works of art.

I was really optimistic when International blue came out, because it reminded me a bit of when It's not war, just the end of love came out which heralded probably their best album of this side of 2000 (minority opinion there i think). But the rest of Resistance is futile sounds so utterly indifferent, genuinely couldn't understand how the fuck the Liverpool song got written. As potentially-interesting songs turning out to be unrefined drivel go, it really gives Emily a run for its money.

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« Reply #187 on: April 18, 2020, 09:47:59 PM »
You know what? I genuinely think International Blue might be one of the best songs they’ve ever made

I just had a listen and while the production definitely brings back the bands core 90s sound the song itself is a moribund effort for the most part. Nice melody in the chorus and a few plus points here and there but stale as fuck. The sound of a band trapped in the perfunctoryness of the track. No emotional content, no ideas or heart. It could be deleted from their back catalogue at no loss.

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« Reply #188 on: April 18, 2020, 11:50:27 PM »
I bloody love International Blue and the second side of that album in general.  (The rest is boring though)

Lifeblood is a fantastic album IMO

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« Reply #189 on: April 19, 2020, 12:27:30 AM »
Re-listening to International blue, i'm reminded of how few decent guitar solos Bradfield has had on recent albums. I remember it really striking me how the guitar solo on The next jet to leave Moscow (maybe their best songs off recent albums?) was actually good. Pains me to say that cos like many people i have a lot of time for JDB, but he used to be able to knock them out of the park for fun, even the restrained stuff like If you tolerate this… is perfectly judged. Started to sound a bit laboured on Know your enemy but there was still some classy stuff there, but since then it's been slim pickings.

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« Reply #190 on: April 19, 2020, 11:20:36 AM »
It's not war, just the end of love came out which heralded probably their best album of this side of 2000 (minority opinion there i think).
Mm, Postcards seems to be almost universally regarded by fans as a bottom-three album.

International Blue is fantastic. The production is so punchy, it almost reminds me of Generation Terrorists, only done well.

Still not really a fan of the late '00s 'revisiting the '90s' trilogy of SATT, JFPL and PFAYM, but the last three albums are up there with their best for me. The second half of the last one is superb.

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« Reply #191 on: April 19, 2020, 11:38:07 AM »
All is vanity is a belter though. Can’t remember which album it’s off though. And the b side it’s all gone is brilliant

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« Reply #192 on: April 19, 2020, 11:40:05 AM »
All is Vanity is on Journal for Plague Lovers. There are some very good songs on that, admittedly.

It's All Gone is from the There by the Grace of God single, all the tracks from that era are fantastic. I have the 2CD Japanese version of Lifeblood with all those and all the Lifeblood b-sides on the second disc, a really fantastic set.

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« Reply #193 on: April 19, 2020, 12:55:47 PM »
It’s all gone helped me through a particularly horrible breakup, I listened to it on repeat for ages. That riff is so simple but effective.

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« Reply #194 on: April 19, 2020, 03:33:11 PM »
I wouldn't go that far with International blue but it is a nice tune. But unfortunately, it's the only remotely decent song on their most recent album, which makes Lifeblood and Send away the tigers sound like works of art.

Lifeblood is one of their best post-2000 albums! Tigers is awful though, I agree.

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« Reply #195 on: April 19, 2020, 03:34:28 PM »
As potentially-interesting songs turning out to be unrefined drivel go, it really gives Emily a run for its money.

Wow, we do differ. Emily is one of their best post-Richey songs IMO.

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« Reply #196 on: June 20, 2020, 12:48:56 AM »
"Be Pure - Be Vigilant - Behave" is a much better document of the Holy Bible anniversary stuff than the BBC coverage of Cardiff. It's taken from the 2014 tour which was all smaller venues and suited the album better. Still up for streaming for a couple of days:

https://www.amam.cymru/kieranevans/504
Also, I was at Cardiff and James had problems with his guitar, during Archives of Pain, right during the solo, of all times for it to happen. I assume that's why it was cut from the BBC broadcast.
I've got the full album portion of the Cardiff gig on my computer and it's still solid, but yeah, the album doesn't suit outdoor gigs in daylight.



Got a working link for the aforementioned Manics film:

https://youtu.be/pRHpKMOwRjI

The guy behind this, has also done something for the Gold Against the Soul reissue - a fictionalised account of the band's 1993 tour of Japan called "Pieces of Sleep"

https://youtu.be/dxzPLoVWG54

Makes you miss "Diary of a Manics Fan" from Melody Maker...

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« Reply #197 on: June 20, 2020, 08:23:11 AM »
I love Lifeblood too and for me it's actually gotten better with age. Adore the really pristine, delicate production job.

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« Reply #198 on: June 20, 2020, 11:27:09 AM »
Got a working link for the aforementioned Manics film:

https://youtu.be/pRHpKMOwRjI

The guy behind this, has also done something for the Gold Against the Soul reissue - a fictionalised account of the band's 1993 tour of Japan called "Pieces of Sleep"

https://youtu.be/dxzPLoVWG54

Makes you miss "Diary of a Manics Fan" from Melody Maker...

I liked the 'degraded VHS' look of it but there wasn't much in it other than proof that Richey could look good even in a pink beret and it showing that the sound of The Holy Bible wasn't a complete left turn. Both the way they were playing live and the bsides of the album (Comfort Comes being the obvious one but also Charles Windsor and Us Against You ) all pointed that way.

The photobook for the reissue is nicely made but still nowhere near worth what they were initially selling it for, I'd say. Assume it's a mistake they've made in using a different (and worse sounding) version of What's My Name on it too.

Roses in The Hospital is probably the most interesting demo .Different lyrics,  even more unashamedly Bowie and the original breakdown has a hint of 4st 7lbs to it.

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