Bond villain strikes again?

[bgmnts]

How?

I have no experience of international politics, espionage or assassinations I genuinely couldn't tell you mate. You're the expert!

[biggytitbo]

Stumped mate! Almost like they're idiots who have done a really stupid thing.



More or less appalling than publicly lying to the UN that another country murdered someone Boz?

[jobotic]

The fact he's alive has been reported everywhere. So the cover up is a bit shit.

But yes, this clearly means the Kremlin is just lovely. Well done.

[biggytitbo]

No, its means Ukraine have lied to the international community about Russia murdering a journalist, in a way that's immediately seized upon by international community seeking to blame Russia for everything. Well done.

[bgmnts]

Seized upon? They just reported it.

Nobody nuked Russia.

[biggytitbo]

No seized upon with glee. Wall to wall headlines in every outlet, politicians spouting off, Russia official accused. 11 journalists have been killed in ukraine since our coup there, all of them critical of the US backed government and their actual Nazi chums. Not a fucking peep from those who were shouting this one from the roof tops without doing the most basic fact checking.

[jobotic]

Source?

[Alberon]

I saw that Alexander Litvinenko down the bookies. Since he's let his hair grow back he doesn't bother trying to hide anymore. Not that any western reporter would bother to check if he had really died of Polonium poisoning.

[jobotic]

Anna Politkovskaya now writes for the Guardian on identity politics under the name Hadley Freeman.

[greenman]

Source?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oles_Buzina

[biggytitbo]

Ahh turns out Russia staged Ukraine staging a journalists murder to sow discord, the dastardly buggers, what will they think up next!


Article here about the hostile environment for journalists in Ukraine - https://www.opendemocracy.net/od-russia/maxim-eristavi/terror-against-ukraine-s-journalists-is-fueled-by-political-elites


Article about the still unsolved murder of Pavel Sheremet - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/10/ukraine-spy-agency-planting-car-bombkilled-journalist-pavel-sheremet


Journalists killed in Ukraine since 2014 - https://cpj.org/data/killed/europe/ukraine/?status=Killed&motiveConfirmed%5B%5D=Confirmed&type%5B%5D=Journalist&cc_fips%5B%5D=UP&start_year=2014&end_year=2018&group_by=year

[bgmnts]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-44301072

[biggytitbo]

The poster boy of the West's anti-Russia operation, a vulture capitalist oligarch who got stung and whose revenge conviently coincided with US cold war 2 foreign policy aims, disregard everything he says.

[jobotic]

The poster boy of the West's anti-Russia operation, a vulture capitalist oligarch who got stung and whose revenge conviently coincided with US cold war 2 foreign policy aims, disregard everything he says.

That's probably true. Tell me though, do you hate all vulture capitalist oligarchs (as one should), or just those that fell out with Putin?

[BlodwynPig]

The fact he's alive has been reported everywhere. So the cover up is a bit shit.

But yes, this clearly means the Kremlin is just lovely. Well done.

Russia has to do absolutely nothing at the moment. The west is a joke in a bad laugh bin

[Hundhoon]

i love the Ukraine its so weird, such an interesting  schitzophrenic country, a country in a constant tug of war between European liberalism and Russian authoritarianism.

it really wants to be European and 'civilized' but then does stuff like this with Arkady.and thinks its acceptable behaviour.
the relationship between Russia and Ukraine is closer than the relationship between England and Scotland or England and Wales, Ukraine was a Russian vassal with no rights for 350 years. Nobody in Russia really sees Ukraine as a foreign country.
you cant take the Ukraine out of Russia but cant take the Russia out of Ukraine.

[biggytitbo]

i love the Ukraine its so weird, such an interesting  schitzophrenic country, a country in a constant tug of war between European liberalism and Russian authoritarianism.

You forgot all the actual Nazis they have there. They're our Nazis though so its ok.

[biggytitbo]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oles_Buzina

Shh don't mention Buzina, can't spin that one against Putin. Good thread on that subject here, highlighting the shameless propagandising and double standards of MSM journalists over this -
https://twitter.com/ValLisitsa/status/1001585873530556416

[bgmnts]

You forgot all the actual Nazis they have there. They're our Nazis though so its ok.

I don't understand this. Does the British government/BBC support Ukrainian Nazis? That would be a bit cheeky considering Labour are so intensely scrutinised on their supposed antisemitism.

[biggytitbo]

We in our role as ever loyal, junior partner of the empire that is.



That's Svoboda, who can't really be described as neo-Nazi, just actual Nazi, with their direct lineage back to the Ukrainian Nazis who committed numerous atrocities during the war. And they were used as the muscle when we backed the coup of the democratically elected government there in 2014, which brought many of the actual Nazis into power. Aside from a bit of soft soap hand wringing here and there, the msm media have dutifully hid the fact that not only was we involved in the coup, but by doing so we directly empowered actual Nazis. All because these actual Nazis are on the right side of our new cold war against Russia, so we conveniently airbrush the terrible consequences out our actions out of the picture.

[biggytitbo]

Excellent article here about how the US empowers Nazis in Ukraine - https://www.thenation.com/article/americas-collusion-with-neo-nazis/

[biggytitbo]

This is a very good point, what if Babchenko had decided to stay 'dead', the whole of the Western political and media landscape would shift around this fake fact and use it to smear Russia wouldn't they? https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/31/what-if-babchenko-had-decided-to-stay-dead/


How many more fake facts is this happening with? (MH17, Skripal, Syrian CW etc)

[Paul Calf]

Logic.

[biggytitbo]

This is the kind of person the US and UK rely on in the propaganda war against Russia -



I mean this child's bedroom scribblings are actually presented to NATO as 'evidence'.

[Crisps?]

It's beyond childish and pathetic, but no more so than what Russia's actual official diplomatic representation in the UK shits out on Twitter.

[Blumf]

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/uk-news/2018/06/24/salisbury-poison-homes-to-be-bought-by-taxpayer-in-1m-deal/

Homes, cars and possessions belonging to Sergei Skripal and the police officer poisoned in the Salisbury nerve agent attack will be bought by taxpayers in a £1 million deal, it has been reported.

The former Russian spy's house, which is still the scene of an ongoing investigation, will be bought by the Government for about £350,000, according to the Sunday Times.

Then what?

[massive bereavement]

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/uk-news/2018/06/24/salisbury-poison-homes-to-be-bought-by-taxpayer-in-1m-deal/
Then what?

A spy museum?

[BlodwynPig]

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/uk-news/2018/06/24/salisbury-poison-homes-to-be-bought-by-taxpayer-in-1m-deal/
Then what?

they'll be destitute

[Isnt Anything]

<Spock> Fascinating </Spock>

[Alberon]

Here we go again?

From the BBC

A man and woman feared to have been exposed to an unknown substance are in a critical condition, prompting police to declare a major incident.

The pair, both in their 40s, were found unconscious in Amesbury, Wiltshire, on Saturday.

Officers initially thought the collapse was drugs-related but have since said they are "open-minded" as to the cause.

Wiltshire Police said further tests on the substance were being carried out in a bid to identify it.

While it was not clear if a crime had been committed, the force said, a number of scenes in Amesbury and Salisbury known to have been frequented by the couple had been cordoned off.

"It was initially believed that the two patients fell ill after using possibly heroin or crack cocaine from a contaminated batch of drugs," the force said.

"They are both currently receiving treatment for suspected exposure to an unknown substance at Salisbury District Hospital," it added.

Public Health England (PHE) said it did not believe there was a "significant health risk" to the wider public, although its advice was being continually assessed.

Officials said the hospital was "open as usual" and advised patients to attend routine appointments unless contacted and advised to do otherwise.

Amesbury is about ten miles from Salisbury, where former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and daughter Yulia were poisoned by a suspected military nerve agent in March.