Fuck off

[Danger Man]

Things get challenged on here all the time. It's good to see. Just the other day someone thought I was being racist by using the term 'sambo'. Due to my poor education in ethnic slurs I was not familiar with this 'obsolete' term. Rather I used it as a well known Irish word for a sandwich. Honest mistake, sorted.

Do Packie Bonner next.

[madhair60]

Oh, cool, great, we've lost Poo. Oh, that's good. Fucking Dorises

[New Jack]

Who was that fella last year starting threads on his porn addiction as if it were as destructive as crystal meth? He was quite good

What happened to him

Don't say he changed his name to new jack. That's just circumstantial

[Depressed Beyond Tables]

I think that's why I consider the site (generally speaking) more sexist and homophobic than racist and transphobic, actually. The latter tend to be called out, or at least debated in some detail when they occur, whereas the former are much more likely to be ignored.

Well, as we've seen, sometimes the cigar is not a cigar.

My anecdote wasn't racist and Poo wasn't being sexist. Just two examples I know, but also two examples which appear to show the site to be what it predominantly is not. CaB is often a mirror to our own personal hangups.

[thenoise]

Oh, cool, great, we've lost Poo. Oh, that's good. Fucking Dorises

No more poo threads and much more men chastising themselves over the fact that the male sex drive exists.  Yeah, that'll make the place more fun.

[QDRPHNC]

men chastising themselves over the fact that the male sex drive exists.

Is that what you do? If so, you should stop.

[Captain Z]

We can still laugh at people caught up in unfortunate news stories though right?

[Kelvin]

Well, as we've seen, sometimes the cigar is not a cigar.

My anecdote wasn't racist and Poo wasn't being sexist.

I wasn't commenting on specific instances. Clearly opinion will differ on what is and isn't overstepping the line, and there will be plenty of instances of things that individuals consider sexist/racist that many of us won't, or can justify.

It's for all of us to make the case for why something is or isn't offensive, or is defensible.

[mothman]

Though I'm not sure - should maybe ask - at which point does it become sexist? Watching porn? Having a favourite porn actor? Or responding to a thread asking who said porn actor is?

I tend to roll my eyes a bit at discussions about sexism. Not because sexism doesn't exist - of course it does - but because I always feel like there is no defence I can offer that won't be discounted. Am I utterly free of sexist attitudes? Even I'd doubt that. Do I try to avoid sexist behaviour? Of course (responding to that thread notwithstanding). Do I succeed? Probably not. It feels incredibly frustrating to feel that there is nothing I can say to ever fully establish that I'm not a bad guy, because hashtag Not All Men. I can't mention I have daughters and want them to avoid this shit, because apparently "As The Father Of Daughters" is a trope all of its own.

But I also know any discomfort or frustration I experience is nothing, nothing at all, like what many women experience every day. So I shrug it off. But a feeling of mild irritation persists.

[Depressed Beyond Tables]

I wasn't commenting on specific instances. Clearly opinion will differ on what is and isn't overstepping the line, and there will be plenty of instances of things that individuals consider sexist/racist that many of us won't, or can justify.

It's for all of us to make the case for why something is or isn't offensive, or is defensible.

I agree, but I wasn't actually responding to you initially anyway, fwiw.

[Dex Sawash]

Just trying to get out of broadcasting VERSUS final, I bet.

paging Black Ship

[Danger Man]

We can still laugh at people caught up in unfortunate news stories though right?

Anybody not left-wing is fair game. Non-whites and women lose their protected status if they dare to be non-left.

[Danger Man]

No more poo threads and much more men chastising themselves over the fact that the male sex drive exists.  Yeah, that'll make the place more fun.

The place will be blander but if you don't like that then you are a RAPE APOLOGIST


You can still be ageist, though, and moan about anybody who has more money than you. Some things will never change.

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

For some, commentating from the sidelines as though they are an observer, rather than a participant, is the biggest turn on of all.

[Depressed Beyond Tables]

For some, commentating from the sidelines as though they are an observer, rather than a participant, is the biggest turn on of all.

Quantum posting.

[thenoise]

Quantum posting.

no u

[Danger Man]

For some, commentating from the sidelines as though they are an observer, rather than a participant, is the biggest turn on of all.

Are you drunk?

[Vodka Margarine]

Rake through my post history and you'll probably be able to piece together a lavish patchwork quilt of unwoke faux pas shame. Some of it most probably misogynistic, without even realising. We've all been rubbish at some point - all of us - but there's always room to improve.

Janie's post really saddens me. She may not speak for all women but the relatively small amount of female posters on CaB has perennially bothered me. It's not as if women aren't into comedy, debate, music, film and all the popular culture and cultish concerns that build the backbone of CaB.

Something is amiss.

[bgmnts]

Yeah why are there few women on here?

Are there any transpeople either?

[Depressed Beyond Tables]

Something is amiss.

Sexist.

[shiftwork2]

They're very rarely bald though.  Nor the other one.

[Barry Admin]

People. Yes there are trans people.

[colacentral]

I'm not sure how much modern "mainstream" American porn, which is primarily what people are talking about in that thread, contains performers who are trafficked or co-erced into doing it. That seems a bit simplistic to me.

Also not sure about the not telling your partner thing - men are going to masturbate with or without porn, and it's a bit unrealistic to expect them to only think of their partners, so if it's imagined or on a screen what difference does it make?

I can agree that the tone of the conversation can be a bit rum but the premise of the OP is that porn is inherently immoral, and thinking about other partners is equivalent to cheating, which I don't agree with. Masturbating is the same to me as eating or going to the toilet and has no bearing on the relationship between me and my partner. It's a healthy outlet for a biological annoyance.

Edit to add: the majority of men masturbate and watch porn; I see no reason to not discuss it, even if I personally wouldn't. Why pretend?

[Danger Man]

Yeah why are there few women on here?

They don't like posting on forums?

Maybe it's the medium and not the message.

[Danger Man]

She may not speak for all women

No, she does. There are 4 billion women in the world and she speaks for all of them.

[Crisps?]

Someone should invent a site about a porn, where people can talk about porn. Problem solved.

[Dr Rock]

They don't like posting on forums?

Maybe it's the medium and not the message.

They post on Mumsnet. Maybe it's because this site is too blue.

[thenoise]

I learned most of what I know about trans people from the contributions of people on here.

[a peepee tipi]

The image of "Poor Little White Boy" from the first page of the porn thread did actually make me feel a bit weird. It's kind of shameful that while I think of myself as an enlightened soul, deep down I had obviously never really considered being in the position of the girl in a film I was watching.

That Poor Little White Boy didn't make you laugh as much as it did me makes me sad, but what saddens me more is your last sentence as I know I can't enjoy porn unless it gets me thinking, "Wow, wouldn't it be great if she and I swapped places?" You don't know what you've been missing, the next time you watch porn I want you to imagine the girl in the video as having your face. Get back to me asap.

[Dr Rock]

Cor one porn thread and it's a sausagefest? What about the zillion fucking sports threads? You have to filter some stuff out and realise not every poster contributes to any one type of thread, they just might not virtue signal about it.