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Kanye West's June Takeover - 8th Solo, Cudi Collab, Nas, and More

Started by Ja'moke, April 23, 2018, 01:11:29 AM

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up_the_hampipe

Pusha has responded to Drake with a track, accusing him of having a secret son with a pornstar https://youtu.be/NRBvhchCpmY

Ja'moke

Manufactured or not, that's probably the best back-and-forth diss tracks we've had in rap for a long time. Meek Mill didn't really put up a fight against Drake. Pusha was just plain nasty in this response!

up_the_hampipe

Quote from: Ja'moke on May 30, 2018, 12:58:05 PM
Manufactured or not, that's probably the best back-and-forth diss tracks we've had in rap for a long time. Meek Mill didn't really put up a fight against Drake. Pusha was just plain nasty in this response!

I liked this summation https://twitter.com/yassir_lester/status/1001653898640179200?s=21


Z

Pusha T is a great heel. He's so committed to this mildly ridiculous character of a dealer that's disgusted by just about everything.

It really is such a mean spirited retort, great stuff, far better than Nas going on about Jay-Z sucking dicks. If the stuff about 40 wasn't surrounded by so much else he'd be getting eviscerated for it, I feel.

His attack on Lil Wayne was pretty harsh too.



RE: the Daytona EP, Kanye's already exceeded my expectations for his output this year.

Z


Ja'moke

There's a stream version (he streamed it last night in Wyoming). I've only listened once, but I'm going to wait for the proper version before diving back in. It didn't immediately blow me away.

EDIT: Apparently it's up on Spotify/Apple now.

Porter Dimi

It is. Only 7 tracks long, thank god. I was fearing an hour-and-a-bit long snoozefest.

Ja'moke

Now I've played the high quality version a couple times it's really good. Ghost Town is my early fave.

Just wish it was 10 tracks. 23 mins is too short.

up_the_hampipe

This might be his most underwhelming album. It sounds fine, lots of nice production, but nothing jumps out.

Yeah, not really feeling this one. It sounds a bit 'Kanye on autopilot'. A lot of the usual tricks are present, but it feels a tad uninspired.

Ja'moke



I think Kanye's peak years are done. Not that the last two albums have been bad necessarily, but I think this one sort of confirms that the golden period is over.

itsfredtitmus

Cover kind of looks like something your mum would post on facebook

Ja'moke

Quote from: Monsieur Verdoux on June 01, 2018, 07:03:28 PM
I think Kanye's peak years are done. Not that the last two albums have been bad necessarily, but I think this one sort of confirms that the golden period is over.

Yeezus was his creative peak.

Z

TLOP was peak Kanye falling apart before our eyes. His talent of orchestrating a huge number of people and sounds into a cohesive whole completely fell apart. The album has more than enough in it to make a great album but he couldn't figure out how.
I love the Life of Pablo, mind; probably gets more plays from me than Yeezus, Graduation or Late Registration.


That being said, shitting out a bunch of EPs seems like a great next step for a guy who seems completely fried. The days of him spearheading something outstanding are probably gone but it looks like he might always be one hell of a collaborator.


Still haven't listened to this new one.

Bazooka

I fell out of my chair because I'm so shocked its awful.

Johnny Textface

So there's a new Kanye produced 7 track album out every week now?  DAYTONA is fantastic. Good times.

Quote from: Ja'moke on June 01, 2018, 07:07:54 PM
Yeezus was his creative peak.

Looks increasingly to be that way. Maybe the new release is supposed to be seen in the context of this ongoing weekly project, but it certainly seems like he's burned through his best ideas already.

Namtab

Album hasn't totally clicked with me, but I Thought About Killing You is a top opener.

I Thought About Killing You is the kind of challengingly eccentric subject matter you'd expect from Kanye, but it feels somewhat pro forma for him, I dunno. Maybe the mask has its teeth too far into the face

I hate being down on this, I was really looking forward to it

Z

Quote from: Monsieur Verdoux on June 02, 2018, 08:50:58 PM
Looks increasingly to be that way. Maybe the new release is supposed to be seen in the context of this ongoing weekly project, but it certainly seems like he's burned through his best ideas already.
I dunno... I'm not sure it's that much down to him having a set of ideas and he gave all the good ones to the first person as just where he's at and how well it suits a particular project.
Pusha T is about as stable of a presence as you can get, he'll be rapping about that one time he sold some crack and how disgusted he is by everyone until the day he dies and he'll never be less than very good at it; he's a good person for Kanye to work with right now.

Kanye himself, on the other hand, is a total mess. Dunno if it's likely to be the worst one he puts out in this batch but it's probably gonna be the most boring. Kinda like a modern version those early 70s solo albums by totally fried 60s musicians right before they disappeared for 20 years.

The one big downside of this release to me is that it shows he probably didn't make a conscious choice that Pusha T is best suited to 20 minutes, cos that came across as really ballsy and inspired a week ago, now it seems like a coping mechanism for a guy with a shit attention span.


Also, MBDTF was his creative peak, and Runaway is his best song

Quote from: Z on June 02, 2018, 09:35:31 PM
Kinda like a modern version those early 70s solo albums by totally fried 60s musicians right before they disappeared for 20 years.

This is such a perfect analogy!

Ja'moke

Quote from: Monsieur Verdoux on June 02, 2018, 08:50:58 PM
Looks increasingly to be that way. Maybe the new release is supposed to be seen in the context of this ongoing weekly project, but it certainly seems like he's burned through his best ideas already.

Despite thinking Yeezus was his creative peak, I do really like this album though. Much more than TLOP. It's concise and does feel like it is tied together thematically. It's also charting better than his past few albums. Yikes is becoming the breakout hit on the charts.

And Z, Kanye said a couple of months back when he announced the albums (his solo, Kids See Ghost, Pusha T, Nas, Teyana Taylor) that they were all going to be 7 tracks.

up_the_hampipe

I really love the beat on Pusha T's Infrared. I think Daytona was better than Ye, but certainly far from either's best work. Kanye has had a string of remarkable albums, while Pusha's My Name Is My Name was one of the best hip-hop albums of the past few years. Seems like the limited track numbers might be letting these projects down. A bit of a "oh, that's it then" vibe when it's over.

Ja'moke

Kanye said in a recent interview that he completely scrapped the album he was working on after the TMZ incident. He made this one in the past month.

that explains a lot. by that standard, it's better than it has any right to be

Z

Didn't he largely do Daytona from scratch* too? I got the impression he scrapped everything and done it all in Wyoming. Cudi and Nas are probably gonna suffer the same faith.

Would not be surprised if the Teyana Taylor one is significantly more polished than the others though. That's a project that he quite clearly wants to be a big pop hit and she's been kept relatively under wraps.


Quote from: up_the_hampipe on June 03, 2018, 01:55:12 AM
I really love the beat on Pusha T's Infrared. I think Daytona was better than Ye, but certainly far from either's best work. Kanye has had a string of remarkable albums, while Pusha's My Name Is My Name was one of the best hip-hop albums of the past few years. Seems like the limited track numbers might be letting these projects down. A bit of a "oh, that's it then" vibe when it's over.
Daytona is easily the best solo Pusha T album imo, I found the other two a huge slog on the whole. Only behind Hell Hath No Fury from Clipse too. There's nothing on it as jaw dropping as Numbers on the Boards, Nosetalgia or Runaway though.

* whatever "from scratch" means, it's not like he's gonna delete his drafts and even if he did, he'll still have all the samples he was looking at using logged somewhere.