Cosby Finally Nailed

[Funcrusher]

Kudos to the court painter. Really capturing the look of "just found guilty on multiple counts of rape"

"Shut that door."

[DrGreggles]

Kudos to the court painter. Really capturing the look of "just found guilty on multiple counts of rape"

Queeg's let himself go.

[biggytitbo]

Very sad to see Cosby developing vampirism due to the shock of his conviction, stay strong Bill.

[Blumf]

Kudos to the court painter. Really capturing the look of "just found guilty on multiple counts of rape"

[bgmnts]

To be fair that is incredibly accurate, I saw the big photo of him on the NY Times article; looked mega evil.

[Default to the negative]

South Park is a big old dog whistling normalisation of slippery slopes.

They don't dog whistle. (Why has that term suddenly become so popular?) They are completely upfront and candid about any jokes or messages they want to send.

If you think they are unfunny or offensive then that's fair enough. But you can't accuse them of coded messages, or moral cowardice. If you have seen the show then you should know that they lay everything down on the table, for all to see.

[Funcrusher]

They don't dog whistle. (Why has that term suddenly become so popular?) They are completely upfront and candid about any jokes or messages they want to send.

If you think they are unfunny or offensive then that's fair enough. But you can't accuse them of coded messages, or moral cowardice. If you have seen the show then you should know that they lay everything down on the table, for all to see.

I was only joking. Or was I, aaaaaah?

[Phil_A]

It's used to push a libertarian agenda. You can't get more right wing than that.

Without wishing to defend Libertarians, it's a misinterpretation to say it's specifically a rightist ideology, given that there are left and right strands under the wider umbrella of Libertarianism.

As others have said Parker & Stone are very clearly Libertarian Centrists(not sure how seriously to take that quote about them being Republicans).
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[Monsieur Verdoux]

South Park is simply aggressively cynical, there's no coherency to the politics they espouse

[up_the_hampipe]

As others have said Parker & Stone are very clearly Libertarian Centrists(not sure how seriously to take that quote about them being Republicans).
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Don't take it seriously https://youtu.be/l97WdRuoJo8

South Park is simply aggressively cynical, there's no coherency to the politics they espouse

It's also important to remember it's a comedy cartoon. Not everything they parody is a reflection of their political leanings. They teased the PC movement, but that doesn't make them anti-PC.

[Bhazor]

I was only joking. Or was I, aaaaaah?

You gotta reaction outta them. They gotta give you that. They played right into your hands.

[Monsieur Verdoux]

It's also important to remember it's a comedy cartoon. Not everything they parody is a reflection of their political leanings. They teased the PC movement, but that doesn't make them anti-PC.

Exactly, they're just going to go after everything they perceive to be a sacred cow. Transgression for the sake of transgression. Or for the sake of humour, rather. This occasionally ventures into territory that seems reactionary, but it would be very difficult to draw a line that traces any coherent worldview.

[Dex Sawash]

Kudos to the court painter. Really capturing the look of "just found guilty on multiple counts of rape"

Aaron McGruder has branched out

[Brundle-Fly]

In his defence, Bill Cosby does one of my favourite ever Beatles covers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUlv5FCqpeo

[checkoutgirl]

So there you go. I know we are wedded to the fair trial and all that bollocks but 33 women all coming forward at the same is almost unprecedented. Cosby is now the American Savile. In one way it's worse because Savile always looked like a wrong'un but Cosby was always the cuddly uncle. Although in the business he had a terrible reputation even in the 1980s so it must have been an open secret that he was a predator.

It's weird how and entire industry can be fairly certain that some characters should be avoided but it never gets to the wider world and nothing is done, if they are powerful enough or perceived to be powerful enough. The parallels with Savile are striking.

[Brundle-Fly]

So there you go. I know we are wedded to the fair trial and all that bollocks but 33 women all coming forward at the same is almost unprecedented. Cosby is now the American Savile. In one way it's worse because Savile always looked like a wrong'un but Cosby was always the cuddly uncle. Although in the business he had a terrible reputation even in the 1980s so it must have been an open secret that he was a predator.

It's weird how and entire industry can be fairly certain that some characters should be avoided but it never gets to the wider world and nothing is done, if they are powerful enough or perceived to be powerful enough. The parallels with Savile are striking.

Savile did a lot for charity, made us wear seatbelts and supposedly pioneered the mobile disco but he wasn't the inspiration and figurehead for an entire race. That has been the most catastrophic aspect of all this.

[Fambo Number Mive]

So there you go. I know we are wedded to the fair trial and all that bollocks but 33 women all coming forward at the same is almost unprecedented. Cosby is now the American Savile. In one way it's worse because Savile always looked like a wrong'un but Cosby was always the cuddly uncle. Although in the business he had a terrible reputation even in the 1980s so it must have been an open secret that he was a predator.

It's weird how and entire industry can be fairly certain that some characters should be avoided but it never gets to the wider world and nothing is done, if they are powerful enough or perceived to be powerful enough. The parallels with Savile are striking.

I agree, although Cosby didn't target dying people or children like Saville did. It's scary how people on twitter are still defending Cosby.

[Default to the negative]

In one way it's worse because Savile always looked like a wrong'un but Cosby was always the cuddly uncle.

Savile pulled a successful double-bluff on me. I was aware of the rumours and the insinuations, but I was that one fool who argued against them. I did this because I thought people were simply judging him on his appearance. 'He looks like a creepy old man - must be a pedo then!' But I was wrong, and I suppose there are some times when you should judge a book by its cover.

Never had much of an opinion on Cosby, back in the day. I did find him a bit sanctimonious at times. When he was phoning up Eddie Murphy to complain about the cuss words, or telling black people they need to pull their socks up and be more respectable.

Because they're giving black people a bad image! Oh, the fucking hypocrisy.

[Monsieur Verdoux]

there's some pretty bad takes on twitter:

[Default to the negative]

Tariq Nasheed sounds like a Nation of Islam name. Of course he would have this take on it.

It might have been better if Cosby had been prosecuted during Obama's tenure. Then people might not think it was a stitch-up.

[Fambo Number Mive]

Tariq is a historian and made a film about Haiti.

[Monsieur Verdoux]

Having made films doesn't really make him a 'historian'. He's more of a shock jock/PUA/cultural commentator.

[jobotic]

Cosby's defence should have been "Yeah, but I made this..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6hRvwaXzFo

..."and Tribe Called Quest sampled it. I mean, come on."


Not really, glad he's been done. Still like this though. Even though I shouldn't. I dunno.

[Brundle-Fly]

there's some pretty bad takes on twitter:

That is an extraordinary conclusion to make. Up there with Lauren Hill getting a three month prison sentence for tax evasion and blaming it on the African slave trade

[Fambo Number Mive]

So much whattebouttary by people defending Cosby on Twitter.

[Brundle-Fly]

I can't stand that buzzword and not very Twitter active. Are his defenders banging on about Weinstein, Spacey etc not in jail yet?

[Cold Meat Platter]

there's some pretty bad takes on twitter:

I think it was the two laws "no drugging" and "no raping" that they used.

[Monsieur Verdoux]

I can't stand that buzzword

how would you prefer that people described that specific sort of rhetorical strategy

[Fambo Number Mive]

I can't stand that buzzword and not very Twitter active. Are his defenders banging on about Weinstein, Spacey etc not in jail yet?

Yes. I meant they are right that other powerful people should be prosecuted as well, but that's not a reason not to convict Cosby. In fact it might mean more people come forward about other powerful people.

Also, some people are saying he shouldn't go to prison as he is 80 (not that I am saying that is whattabouttery).

[ieXush2i]

Savile did a lot for charity, made us wear seatbelts and supposedly pioneered the mobile disco but he wasn't the inspiration and figurehead for an entire race. That has been the most catastrophic aspect of all this.

Call me controversial but I think all the decades of spiked sexual assaults were the most catastrophic aspect.