Author Topic: Hereditary  (Read 9349 times)

Re: Hereditary
« Reply #150 on: September 05, 2018, 09:26:16 PM »
I loved that bit where witchy spider mum silently swims through the air until she's out of frame.
More of this please, BBC!

Re: Hereditary
« Reply #151 on: September 05, 2018, 09:53:34 PM »
There were definitely scare chords there. Not as many as any other modern horror film would have. But they were still there. The clicking just felt like such a crutch. It exists only to tell you that its the creepy dude ooh he's possessed oooooooh get fucked.

The clicking was a neat trick, I thought, b/c it was to cue members of the audience to make the same sound, thus confusing the sense of when the creepy character was about to appear...

(I reckon so, anyway)

Re: Hereditary
« Reply #152 on: September 05, 2018, 10:08:37 PM »
At the screening I went to, 4 Khoisan tribesmen walked out halfway through. I asked them in the foyer what was the matter and one of them told me that they only had a rudimentary understanding of English and couldn't really follow what was going on so had decided to cut their losses and go bowling instead.

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Re: Hereditary
« Reply #153 on: September 05, 2018, 10:52:51 PM »
Here's a whole bunch of deleted scenes, if you're any way interested.

Nothing revelatory or owt, but if you enjoyed the film, well, there's 18 minutes more of it for you.

Re: Hereditary
« Reply #154 on: September 06, 2018, 12:25:21 AM »
Ooh, thank you, I can see why it was all cut, but it's always interesting to see things like this.

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Re: Hereditary
« Reply #155 on: September 24, 2018, 11:41:56 PM »
Just got round to seeing this. Went in with zero expectations and thoroughly enjoyed it.

Same. Might have helped that it was just me and the missus in our living room rather than in a cinema full of sniggering twats, but I thought it was about the most harrowing film I've seen in years. It only lost it for me right at the end when it got a bit daft and expository. All the underlined passages were enough - I don't know why we needed to have it all repeated out loud when the ritual would pretty much have been enough.

Not sure what the plot holes people were complaining about. I was a bit confused about why the mum was suddenly possessed, but other than that it all made sense. Grandma leaving her demonic plans in a box in the attic was silly though.

Re: Hereditary
« Reply #156 on: September 25, 2018, 12:58:07 AM »
Not sure what the plot holes people were complaining about. I was a bit confused about why the mum was suddenly possessed, but other than that it all made sense. Grandma leaving her demonic plans in a box in the attic was silly though.

The main one for me was that the orchestration of the cult's masterplan was implausibly convoluted.  We're to understand that the host's head must be removed in order for the demon to pass from body to body - fair enough, occult shite - but the way they managed to remove the daughter's head was a bit fucking convoluted. 

"Right, let's hope her mum uncharacteristically sends her to a house party she really shouldn't be at, hope she eats some of the nuts there what with the allergy and everything, and hope the son then drives recklessly while she sticks her head out the window trying to breathe.  We'll chuck a deer carcass in the road to ensure he swerves just at the right point so her head gets knocked off by this telephone pole we've put our sigil on".  Either that, or it was just happenstance, which is almost as stupid.  The demon itself seems fairly useless if it wasn't able to escape that girl for 13 years without help from a bunch of naked fat people, which makes you question its effectiveness as one of the Kings of Hell.

Also, when the girl's head got knocked off, it went into the book - right?  For some reason - okay, occult shite.  Then it gets into the mum when she throws the book into the fire (for some reason setting the father on fire in the process, even when that wasn't what was set up earlier when the mum tried to burn it).  Okay.  Then the mum has to cut her head off to let it out so it can transfer into Peter, who just so happened to have been so spooked that he jumped out a window to his death.  Again, maybe happenstance, but then the movie ends with a ceremony immediately after where they basically explain that this was all planned (thus fulfilling the labored dollhouse metaphor).  Just seems there would be a far easier way to get the demon into Peter than all that.  Also, why are they explaining to the demon that he is, in fact, a bloody powerful demon at the end?  Again, this demon seems pretty useless and not worth all the bother.

Fair enough, there's not always much logic to the supernatural, and it's definitely not a genre which benefits from overexplanation.  The problem with Hereditary, as opposed to a genuinely ambiguous supernatural film like The Shining or a supernatural film with a clear story and vision like The Exorcist, was that it tried to explain everything - complete with a purely expository monologue at the end - but the explanation made no sense.  It really feels like a first draft by a writer whose ideas changed several times throughout the process.

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Re: Hereditary
« Reply #157 on: September 26, 2018, 05:28:49 AM »
The main one for me was that the orchestration of the cult's masterplan was implausibly convoluted.  We're to understand that the host's head must be removed in order for the demon to pass from body to body - fair enough, occult shite - but the way they managed to remove the daughter's head was a bit fucking convoluted. 

Nah, I think she just has to die. Grandma/the cult done a hex and it went all Final Destination.

You might be right about the book though. I can't quite remember.

Paimon (stupid name) is a bit confused because he's spent 11 years in a stupid child, a bit of time in a book and is now in a concussed teen. That seems reasonable, although I'm not sure why they expected him to immediately give them wisdom if they know he's also a bit confused about actually being a demon at that point.

Re: Hereditary
« Reply #158 on: October 13, 2018, 08:56:41 PM »
I just saw this and really loved it. Creeped me the hell out, and I'll probably watch it again tomorrow to see what I missed the first time around.

Haven't been through this thread yet, so apologies if I'm rehashing what has already gone before, but there some beautiful shots in this, in particular the grandma sitting surrounded by flames in the woods and the flash of Peter sitting in his room to Peter sitting in class.

I'm fairly jaded and burnt out on horror these days but this film had me exclaiming THE FUCK on at least three occassions.

Amazing how much more effective jump scares are without musical stings.

Re: Hereditary
« Reply #159 on: October 13, 2018, 09:03:53 PM »
Well, having skimmed the first four pages, I seem to be in the minority here... you miserable bastards... anyway, I liked it a lot, and I liked The Witch a lot, too. And I'm me, so I must be in the right.

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Re: Hereditary
« Reply #160 on: October 21, 2018, 11:16:26 PM »
I just watched it and I thought it was really good, was a bit surprised to read the rather negative responses here. But I don't watch too many films, certainly not horrors, so I'm probably unsophisticated and swallow any old crap.
I was/am properly spooked by it. Some very scary stuff. I liked some of the decisions they took: that there were no pentagrams/upturned crosses/cliche Satanist stuff; the twist that the film doesn't revolve around the little possessed girl; that the girl, as somebody mentioned earlier, seemed just genuinely sad and confused.
I liked the surreal ending in the cabin. Not least because it was a bit of over-the-top surrealism that was a welcome respite after the tense previous scenes.

Agree that the overly jovial Joan was a red flag the minute she appeared, too predictable.


But yeah, I'm really spooked.

Re: Hereditary
« Reply #161 on: October 23, 2018, 08:55:37 PM »
Another fan here too.  I watched it last week and was instantly intrigued as to what was going to happen. I thought it was really well cast and loved Gabriel Byrne underplaying it all. 

Re: Hereditary
« Reply #162 on: October 24, 2018, 07:17:43 AM »
Definitely going to be one of my favourites of the year, I reckon. All the haters are nutters.

Re: Hereditary
« Reply #163 on: October 24, 2018, 09:41:19 AM »
There was a strange scene where Gabriel Byrne went into see the son (or mum was it?) after the funeral and he was just randomly holding an empty glass. Was the glass relevant?

Sorry, probably reading too much into it.

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Re: Hereditary
« Reply #164 on: December 30, 2018, 11:51:17 AM »
On second viewing I liked this a lot more. It's even going in my films of the year list. What an accolade. Huge congrats to all the cast and crew on this incredible achievement x

Re: Hereditary
« Reply #165 on: December 30, 2018, 12:02:40 PM »
Huge congrats to all the cast and crew on this incredible achievement x

Thanks it means a lot.

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Re: Hereditary
« Reply #166 on: December 30, 2018, 12:10:19 PM »
Oi! Stop it! Films of the year lists? This film was shit I tell you! SHIT!

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Re: Hereditary
« Reply #167 on: December 30, 2018, 12:31:58 PM »
grassbath is going in my Scrooges Of The Year list, guys

Watch out for him!

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Re: Hereditary
« Reply #168 on: December 30, 2018, 04:23:15 PM »
This film was so-so, I tell you!  SO-SO!

Re: Hereditary
« Reply #169 on: December 30, 2018, 04:47:18 PM »
Each to their own but I too thought it was great! Were there plot-holes and logic issues? Yep. But it also had a feverish nightmarish quality that few horror films even try for these days, and the set-pieces and imagery are fantastic.

The son hearing that unidentifiable whipp-whippp noise and looking up to find his mum garroting her own head off in the attic was one of the few gibbering "fucking hell!!!" moments I can recall a film making me do in years.

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Re: Hereditary
« Reply #170 on: December 30, 2018, 05:42:26 PM »
The son hearing that unidentifiable whipp-whippp noise and looking up to find his mum garroting her own head off...

"You're terrible, Muriel."

Re: Hereditary
« Reply #171 on: December 30, 2018, 08:36:50 PM »
Just about to sit down on my own in dark creepy house and watch this again.

Wonder if it will seem less silly than when I saw it at the cinema.