Poll

God bless you free, Tommy Robinson

Jesus loves you more than words can JAIL
12 (19.4%)
He has a cunning plan (to escape)
5 (8.1%)
A FREE TOMMY TIPPEE CUP JUST FOR ME
7 (11.3%)
More than words is all you have to do to make it real
1 (1.6%)
Then you wouldn't have to say that you love me
0 (0%)
Cause I'd already know
1 (1.6%)
What would you do if my heart was torn in two
2 (3.2%)
More than words to show you feel
0 (0%)
That your love for me is real
1 (1.6%)
What would you say if I took those words away
0 (0%)
Then you couldn't make things new just by saying I love you
1 (1.6%)
20 (32.3%)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgA7EzVnA4A
0 (0%)
Tommy Robinson, he wore a stetson hat
0 (0%)
He wore gorblimey trousers
0 (0%)
And he's a fucking twat
7 (11.3%)
Raoul Moat
5 (8.1%)
FREE TOMMY ROBINSON with every purchase
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 62

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Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1050 on: July 12, 2019, 11:00:30 AM »
Sponk: Never knowingly not equivocating or looking for loopholes to let far right cunts off the hook

Endicott

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Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1051 on: July 12, 2019, 11:19:48 AM »
Fuck!  Is that accurate?

Richard Price
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/176587/Paedo-rap-for-EDL-leader

Michael Coates
https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/09/484284.html

Brett Moses - could not find a newspaper report.

Matthew Woodward - could not find a newspaper report.

Mark "Archie" Sleman
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/paedophile-hunt-english-defence-league-supporter-mark-sleman-1430500

Leigh Macmillan
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/edl-english-defence-league-leigh-mcmillan-jailed-paedophile-old-bailey-a8231231.html

Peter Gillett, member of the English Defence League. Convicted for 18 years for rape and sexual assault of two girls and a boy, aged 8. Tommy Robinson refused to condemn his actions.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/tommy-robinson-ignores-former-edl-members-child-sex-abuse

John Broomfield
https://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/9094012.former-swanage-soldier-jailed-for-child-abuse-images/

Kane Hutchison.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/gateshead-football-coach-kane-hutchison-8936979

Wayne Kirby
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tommy-robinson-supporter-who-threatened-14085692

Dale Hewitt - could not find a newspaper report.

Michael Kinnear
https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/dangerous-beeston-paedophile-who-contacted-1255298

Trevor Vinson
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/man-filmed-himself-repeatedly-sexually-13706834

Bernard Holmes.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7232333/EDL-thug-jailed-horrific-four-attack-attack-girlfriend.html


Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1052 on: July 12, 2019, 11:24:58 AM »
Brilliant work there, especially as some of it seems to dispel the notion they were just Facebook fans of the EDL; thank you Endicott.

Cuellar

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Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1053 on: July 12, 2019, 11:27:15 AM »
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Democratic Football Lads’ Alliance

lol what

Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1054 on: July 12, 2019, 11:27:39 AM »
Richard Price
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/176587/Paedo-rap-for-EDL-leader

Michael Coates
https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/09/484284.html

Brett Moses - could not find a newspaper report.

Matthew Woodward - could not find a newspaper report.

Mark "Archie" Sleman
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/paedophile-hunt-english-defence-league-supporter-mark-sleman-1430500

Leigh Macmillan
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/edl-english-defence-league-leigh-mcmillan-jailed-paedophile-old-bailey-a8231231.html

Peter Gillett, member of the English Defence League. Convicted for 18 years for rape and sexual assault of two girls and a boy, aged 8. Tommy Robinson refused to condemn his actions.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/tommy-robinson-ignores-former-edl-members-child-sex-abuse

John Broomfield
https://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/9094012.former-swanage-soldier-jailed-for-child-abuse-images/

Kane Hutchison.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/gateshead-football-coach-kane-hutchison-8936979

Wayne Kirby
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tommy-robinson-supporter-who-threatened-14085692

Dale Hewitt - could not find a newspaper report.

Michael Kinnear
https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/dangerous-beeston-paedophile-who-contacted-1255298

Trevor Vinson
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/man-filmed-himself-repeatedly-sexually-13706834

Bernard Holmes.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7232333/EDL-thug-jailed-horrific-four-attack-attack-girlfriend.html

COINCIDENCE!

Norton Canes

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Endicott

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Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1056 on: July 12, 2019, 11:32:05 AM »
Brilliant work there, especially as some of it seems to dispel the notion they were just Facebook fans of the EDL; thank you Endicott.

Cheers. Hope your recovery is going well.

Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1057 on: July 12, 2019, 11:32:51 AM »
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Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1058 on: July 12, 2019, 11:39:29 AM »
Just asking questions here, no skin in the game, but what if Tommy is actually great and did absolutely nothing wrong? Cheers

Pdine

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Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1059 on: July 12, 2019, 11:42:28 AM »
Just asking questions here, no skin in the game, but what if Tommy is actually great and did absolutely nothing wrong? Cheers

After all his barley water tastes great and Baldrick was a fantastic character.

Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1060 on: July 12, 2019, 11:47:59 AM »
The size of the EDL movement has been difficult to gauge.[6] Allen noted that within a year and a half of the group's formation it had "grown substantially" but that it is "extremely difficult to know exactly how big or how well supported the EDL is."[57] The organisation has no official system of membership,[379] or formal means of joining,[380] and thus no membership list.[381] In 2011, Bartlett and Littler estimated that between 25,000 and 35,000 people were active members in the EDL movement.[294]  In July 2010, the EDL had 22,000 followers on Facebook;[352] following the killing of Lee Rigby in 2013 this had reached 160,000,[385] and as of February 2015, it had risen further to 184,000.[107] As of January 2016, its Angels Division for women had over 17,000 likes,[386] while that of its LGBT Division had 3,500 likes.[387] Its Facebook following was smaller than that of its rival, Britain First; in 2015, when the EDL had 181,000 followers, Britain First had 816,000.[388]

I think the EDL are a bunch of fascist scumbags, and obviously considering their social, educational and economic background many of them are going to lead a life of crime (Akala has spoken and written well on this), but what does a lost of 14 prove out of that many supporters?

ETA I understand the point about Tommy's silence on this, he's a self promoting narcissist, so that's not a surprise.

Endicott

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Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1061 on: July 12, 2019, 11:51:11 AM »
I think the EDL are a bunch of fascist scumbags, and obviously considering their social, educational and economic background many of them are going to lead a life of crime (Akala has spoken and written well on this), but what does a lost of 14 prove out of that many supporters?

ETA I understand the point about Tommy's silence on this, he's a self promoting narcissist, so that's not a surprise.

Tommy's silence is the point. Don't really see why you're trying to pretend the point is something else. You greasy little shit.

Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1062 on: July 12, 2019, 11:52:34 AM »
Tommy's silence is the point. Don't really see why you're trying to pretend the point is something else. You greasy little shit.

Well, the point I was tackling was that paedophilia is "rampant" in the EDL. And fuck you. Pretending? I was responding to a direct quote in the thread that everyone here is praising.

Endicott

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Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1063 on: July 12, 2019, 11:54:15 AM »
A point that no-one has made, except you. Tilting at straw men. What a cunt. Bye.

Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1064 on: July 12, 2019, 11:57:57 AM »
What point are you trying to make here? No-one is suggesting that all EDL members are paedophiles. They are saying that Robinson seems to ignore the behaviour when it is prominent members of his group that are doing it and then exaggerate and amplify when it is Muslims. What is there to argue about with those statements?

Do you agree or disagree with these statements?

The EDL are scum
Tommy Robinson is a racist
Tommy Robinson is more interested in highlighting sexual offences if the perpetrator is a Muslim than if they are prominent supporters of the EDL
It is wrong to ignore offences by people who are on "your side" and highlight offences by people who are a different race, religion or nationality
There may be an ulterior motive for which cases Robinson highlights and which he ignores
Tommy Robinson doesn't care about these cases on their own merits as much as he purports to

Endicott

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Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1065 on: July 12, 2019, 11:58:40 AM »
Well, the point I was tackling was that paedophilia is "rampant" in the EDL. And fuck you. Pretending? I was responding to a direct quote in the thread that everyone here is praising.

Quote it now. Go on.

Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1066 on: July 12, 2019, 12:05:38 PM »

Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1067 on: July 12, 2019, 12:07:35 PM »
Since you've become so focused on the word rampant, I thought I'd put it within the context it was written.

So after that twitter thread calling out the many examples of child sexual abuse within the EDL, someone responds

    "Guilt by association aka association fallacy"*

To which she responds: "No. You've missed the point, deliberately I suspect. Tommy Robinson is guilty of banging on about unveiling the truth about child rape, while remaining silent about the rampant child sex abuse taking place in his own backyard; he even campaigned to free one of those convicted."

And then you decide to take issue with the term "rampant" (ironically, deliberately missing the point, or at least gesturing furiously away from it). What would be "rampant" sexual abuse, oh so clever smart man who is smart? How many paedos per 1000 does "rampant" indicate to you? Is it possible that, as a word, it's probably functioning more as a rhetorical flourish than as an actual measure of child abuse?




*cos all these cunts talk like this and mistake their colossal point missing for intellectual incision


EDIT: Posted before seeing sponk bring up other uses of word rampant. doesn't change a damn thing though.

Endicott

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Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1068 on: July 12, 2019, 12:08:21 PM »

Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1069 on: July 12, 2019, 12:11:35 PM »
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Anti-fascist group Hope Not Hate, which monitors the online activity of far-right groups such as EDL, described McMillan as a “senior member” of the organisation.

They said he was a “lead figure” in the EDL’s “Lee Rigby campaign – a campaign to use the soldier’s death for further hatred”.

Hope Not Hate also accused fellow EDL members of attempting to cover up McMillan’s abuse.

The EDL did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Autopsy Turvey

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Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1070 on: July 12, 2019, 02:15:14 PM »
from https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/ag-v-yaxley-lennon-jmt-190709.pdf

This is exactly what I was after, many thanks. Sounds like a damning passage, but the respondent's case underneath that quote makes clear the context of those words, where he is directly addressing the press, which again is presumably why the court didn't charge or convict him with incitement.

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anti-Tommy conspiracy being perpetrated by the establishment?

It's hard to avoid doubts like this given that all of his social media accounts were suspended within 24 hours of him launching his documentary to expose the BBC Panorama team, who had suggested to a female ex-colleague that they could perhaps fabricate some sort of sexual story against him. Also given that Facebook banned him for encouraging his readers to "behead the followers of the Koran", which is not a thing that he ever said.

Who strangely seems to know loads about the subject when convenient.

Well it's an interesting subject, I've looked into it a bit, but it's a massive subject too so it's impossible to cover all the bases unless you're really dedicated and have nothing much else on.

As for listing all the EDL paedophiles, I mean you might equally list all the Labour Party, IRA or trade union paedophiles and say "Tommy doesn't care about these either". He has a special area of interest based on his own personal history, like, if someone works for the Teenage Cancer Trust you don't go "Oi what about people with cancer in their 20s, I suppose you think that's fine?"

Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1071 on: July 12, 2019, 02:26:43 PM »
Fucking Ada. That may just be the stupidest thing I have ever read.

Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1072 on: July 12, 2019, 02:30:34 PM »


As for listing all the EDL paedophiles, I mean you might equally list all the Labour Party, IRA or trade union paedophiles and say "Tommy doesn't care about these either". He has a special area of interest based on his own personal history, like, if someone works for the Teenage Cancer Trust you don't go "Oi what about people with cancer in their 20s, I suppose you think that's fine?"

Which reaffirms the point that his interest is based around a racist/anti-Islamic sentiment, no?

The difference too, is that he has a long track record of encouraging violence against Muslims generally. Why else otherwise would he turn up with thousands of skinheads to provincial town centres and then proceed to kick fuck out of them?

Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1073 on: July 12, 2019, 02:32:52 PM »

Why else otherwise would he turn up with thousands of skinheads to provincial town centres and then proceed to kick fuck out of them?

He has a "special area of interest" in it.

Autopsy Turvey

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Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1074 on: July 12, 2019, 02:44:10 PM »
Which reaffirms the point that his interest is based around a racist/anti-Islamic sentiment, no?

As far as I've seen he's been fairly successful at separating racism from anti-Islamism. Like how the left are painfully aware that criticism of Israel is not anti-Semitism. He's barely ever said anything about race to my knowledge, except to note how multiculturalism has worked brilliantly in Luton with the exception of one community.

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The difference too, is that he has a long track record of encouraging violence against Muslims generally. Why else otherwise would he turn up with thousands of skinheads to provincial town centres and then proceed to kick fuck out of them?

This sounds like it should be true doesn't it. I'm aware of the "every single Muslim" rant that he did ten years ago and apologised for soon after, but if there are any other articles and/or quotes on any specific cases where he has definitely done this, please do share them.

Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1075 on: July 12, 2019, 02:50:11 PM »
When did he apologise and how soon after? Show me a link. I remember seeing him defending those comments on an interview Andrew Neil a couple of years after it I think.

Autopsy Turvey

  • Albert The Grinder vs The Hooded Terror
Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1076 on: July 12, 2019, 02:53:53 PM »
When did he apologise and how soon after? Show me a link. I remember seeing him defending those comments on an interview Andrew Neil a couple of years after it I think.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/oct/11/edl-tommy-robinson-sorry-fear-muslims


Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1077 on: July 12, 2019, 02:59:14 PM »
Is “Special area of interest” the new “White Pride”?

Cuellar

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Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1078 on: July 12, 2019, 03:01:36 PM »

Re: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1079 on: July 12, 2019, 03:02:08 PM »
As for listing all the EDL paedophiles, I mean you might equally list all the Labour Party, IRA or trade union paedophiles and say "Tommy doesn't care about these either".

Except he's never been a member of those organisations. He founded the EDL with Richard Price (among others), who is now a convicted paedophile. He also defended Price on this issue.