Author Topic: Suspiria (2018) (Read 6636 times)

Swoz_MK · « **on:** June 04, 2018, 03:32:03 PM »

Trailer - https://youtu.be/3uGIEY7tdg8

Directed by the fella that did Call Me by Your Name, music by Thom Yorke, stars Tilda Swinton Chloe Moretz and all them lot.

Looks nice.

Funcrusher · « **Reply #1 on:** June 04, 2018, 03:35:09 PM »

The most pointless remake ever.

Monsieur Verdoux · « **Reply #2 on:** June 04, 2018, 03:51:47 PM »

Guadagnino is a hack. A magazine photographer pretending to be an auteur

Blinder Data · « **Reply #3 on:** June 04, 2018, 03:55:49 PM »

Quote from: Monsieur Verdoux on June 04, 2018, 03:51:47 PM

Guadagnino is a hack. A magazine photographer pretending to be an auteur

Why do you say that? I've only seen Call Me By Your Name but I loved it and it didn't strike me as the work of a hack at all.

Monsieur Verdoux · « **Reply #4 on:** June 04, 2018, 04:02:28 PM »

It's all empty, woozy magazine aesthetics. Shallow psychology, a tourist excursion for the wealthy. The art film as middlebrow entertainment. Bit of sex dappled with sunlight. No bite, not even any teeth shown. Just an irrepressible air of post-coital laziness disguised as Euro sophistication.

Funcrusher · « **Reply #5 on:** June 04, 2018, 04:09:03 PM »

Quote from: Monsieur Verdoux on June 04, 2018, 03:51:47 PM

Guadagnino is a hack. A magazine photographer pretending to be an auteur

I've only seen 'I Am Love', which was a load of preposterous twaddle from beginning to end, which is why I haven't seen any others. Inexplicably raved about, and a ton of hype about how Guadagnino and Swinton were a dream ticket, when Guadagnino had zero track record as far as I could tell.

itsfredtitmus · « **Reply #6 on:** June 04, 2018, 04:12:28 PM »

Quote from: Monsieur Verdoux on June 04, 2018, 04:02:28 PM

It's all empty, woozy magazine aesthetics. Shallow psychology, a tourist excursion for the wealthy. The art film as middlebrow entertainment. Bit of sex dappled with sunlight. No bite, not even any teeth shown. Just an irrepressible air of post-coital laziness disguised as Euro sophistication.

Du Look

thugler · « **Reply #7 on:** June 04, 2018, 04:14:07 PM »

Liked call me by your name but this is pointless, as are most remakes. Looks a bit of a pastiche also.

phantom_power · « **Reply #8 on:** June 04, 2018, 07:35:52 PM »

It seems to get the creepy 70s Italian horror film vibe right but I am not sure there is much point in it. I suppose it depends on if it can maintain that creepiness and be scary and thrilling like the original.

Wet Blanket · « **Reply #9 on:** June 04, 2018, 07:49:50 PM »

Seems a strange choice to remake a Seventies giallo schlocker painstakingly in the style of a Seventies giallo schlocker. Puts me in mind of the shot-for-shot remake of Psycho.

To me the best 'modern' giallo is Amer. Nicholas Winding Refn's Neon Demon was horseshit but had some terrifically lurid visuals in the giallo style too.

Noodle Lizard · « **Reply #10 on:** June 04, 2018, 08:00:37 PM »

It's one of those weird things where Suspiria is so defined by its unusual visuals and sound and overall style that it seems ridiculous to try and remake it any other way. On the other hand, remaking it in that style seems like an inconceivable waste of time. That trailer makes it seem like they're doing both, so it could go either way.

Call Me By Your Name was staggeringly overrated, I thought. Like that interminable lunch scene in Before Midnight, stretched out for hours.

Glebe · « **Reply #11 on:** June 04, 2018, 11:05:48 PM »

Interesting trailer.

Funcrusher · « **Reply #12 on:** June 04, 2018, 11:55:50 PM »

Quote from: Wet Blanket on June 04, 2018, 07:49:50 PM

Seems a strange choice to remake a Seventies giallo schlocker painstakingly in the style of a Seventies giallo schlocker. Puts me in mind of the shot-for-shot remake of Psycho.

To me the best 'modern' giallo is Amer. Nicholas Winding Refn's Neon Demon was horseshit but had some terrifically lurid visuals in the giallo style too.

The fact that 'Amer' exists makes this doubly pointless, although technically 'Suspiria' probably wouldn't be classed as a giallo I'll get round to watching 'The Strange Colour of Your Body's Tears' rather than bothering with this pointless remake.

Wet Blanket · « **Reply #13 on:** June 05, 2018, 09:14:56 AM »

Yes I suppose strictly it's not a giallo, but it is very giallo-y nevertheless.

Strange Colour... is very hard work indeed. Looking forward to Let the Corpses Tan however.

Shameless Custard · « **Reply #14 on:** June 05, 2018, 10:56:42 AM »

As much as I fancy that Chloe Moretz, how many rubs remakes has she been in?

I'd like to do a remake of Blue Lagoon with her.

Cheers

Big Mclargehuge · « **Reply #15 on:** June 05, 2018, 12:48:45 PM »

Where the bloody hell has all the colour gone O.o
And the soundtrack sounds about as appealing as a guff in a tin.
I wasnt expecting much for this one, but it's somehow managed to even surpass my expectation on just how shit it could possibly be. jeeze...

Kane Jones · « **Reply #16 on:** June 05, 2018, 01:12:42 PM »

No Goblin, no Suspiria.

Z · « **Reply #17 on:** June 05, 2018, 01:22:46 PM »

Shot by apiachatong weersathul (how close was that spelling?) cinematographer, isn't it? Kinda interested in that.

Wasn't too keen on call me by your name but I did enjoy the whole "shot entirely with one lens" restriction (and the sufjan songs, obviously)

Neville Chamberlain · « **Reply #18 on:** June 05, 2018, 02:18:55 PM »

Looks like quite a good film, if you ignore the sheer pointlessness of remaking Suspiria in the first place.

By the way, that green pissoir at 0:52 is about 3 minutes' walk from where I'm sitting right now.

BlodwynPig · « **Reply #19 on:** June 05, 2018, 03:25:16 PM »

Quote from: Kane Jones on June 05, 2018, 01:12:42 PM

No Goblin, no Suspiria.

Precisely. Not a fan of Yorke at all, but this score was not so off-putting, although I agree that its a pointless exercise. I rate Profundo Rosso over Suspiria. I would however like to see a full film version of that giallo that they're making in Berberian Film Studio (The Equestrian Vortex?), the soundtrack was great (to the giallo - it was released as a 7" by Andrew Liles).

Obel · « **Reply #20 on:** June 05, 2018, 05:10:28 PM »

Quote from: Monsieur Verdoux on June 04, 2018, 04:02:28 PM

It's all empty, woozy magazine aesthetics. Shallow psychology, a tourist excursion for the wealthy. The art film as middlebrow entertainment. Bit of sex dappled with sunlight. No bite, not even any teeth shown. Just an irrepressible air of post-coital laziness disguised as Euro sophistication.

Is your post a joke? Seriously can't tell.

Trailer is surprisingly good. Actually will give it the time of day, hopefully the trailer is aiming to capture the vibe of the film rather than being weird to suck fans of the original in.

Monsieur Verdoux · « **Reply #21 on:** June 05, 2018, 05:49:08 PM »

Quote from: Obel on June 05, 2018, 05:10:28 PM

Is your post a joke? Seriously can't tell.

If you think it's a joke you clearly haven't sat through 'A Bigger Splash'

spamwangler · « **Reply #22 on:** June 05, 2018, 06:03:15 PM »

never seen either film, the original films trailer looks colourful, mad sexy -

new one looks dull, ponderous, shite

biggytitbo · « **Reply #23 on:** June 05, 2018, 06:12:54 PM »

They better not try and remake Phenomena, which I believe to be Argento's best film and utterly mad in every regard.

I never really liked Suspiria that much, apart from the incredible opening sequence of course.

Paaaaul · « **Reply #24 on:** June 05, 2018, 06:43:44 PM »

Quote from: biggytitbo on June 05, 2018, 06:12:54 PM

They better not try and remake Phenomena, which I believe to be Argento's best film and utterly mad in every regard.

I never really liked Suspiria that much, apart from the incredible opening sequence of course.

I re-watched Phenomena last night, and I'm now watching the making-of film.
I like it, but it really does feel like a remake of Suspiria itself. Watching a load of Argento in a short time reveals just how little variation there is in his stories.

phantom_power · « **Reply #25 on:** June 05, 2018, 06:50:04 PM »

Quote from: Neville Chamberlain on June 05, 2018, 02:18:55 PM

Looks like quite a good film, if you ignore the sheer pointlessness of remaking Suspiria in the first place.

Thinking about it, is it that pointless? The plot is nothing to shout about so using the name is really just promising a style and atmosphere, and whether the new film delivers that will determine how pointless the remake is.

Monsieur Verdoux · « **Reply #26 on:** June 05, 2018, 06:55:04 PM »

It's promising a style and atmosphere that's already been done, so even if the film is good (and it may well be) it'll still be artistically bankrupt. The only good remakes are the ones that change everything, and offer something essentially new. A decent simulacrum of a previously worked-through style is pointless, even if enjoyable

phantom_power · « **Reply #27 on:** June 05, 2018, 09:01:09 PM »

how can it be pointless if it is enjoyable? Surely enjoyment is a pretty good point for a work of entertainment

Monsieur Verdoux · « **Reply #28 on:** June 05, 2018, 09:02:20 PM »

i'm talkin' 'bout artistry so maybe we're at cross purposes

thenoise · « **Reply #29 on:** June 05, 2018, 09:48:20 PM »

Suspiria is one of Argento's better efforts. In a genre so rife with interesting ideas let down by terrible execution, why remake this one?

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