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Re: Twin Peaks Season 3...
« Reply #660 on: March 04, 2021, 09:22:58 PM »
Wikipedia says that Leyland is never mentioned in the pages of the book. So if you accept it as canon, then Laura would write in terms of “BOB”, not in terms of her father - a coping mechanism.

THEREFORE Leyland says I always thought you knew it was me because he is surprised that Laura never realized that so-called “BOB“ was him, Leyland’s own all-to-human beastliness, all along. Perhaps Leyland used “BOB” as an explanation of his two-faced nature when trying to come to terms with it himself in Laura’s presence?

This would cast doubt on the strict reality of BOB as an actual spirit - rather we are merely seeing fantastic representations of Laura’s imagination of the banal evil she has to tolerate as a victim of incestual sexual sadism.

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« Reply #661 on: March 05, 2021, 04:38:51 AM »
Perhaps though, because of Laura's 'unusual' origins, she physically sees Bob when Bob is in control of Leland? Just as bad Coop did when he looks in the mirror.

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« Reply #662 on: March 05, 2021, 05:33:53 AM »
Perhaps though, because of Laura's 'unusual' origins, she physically sees Bob when Bob is in control of Leland? Just as bad Coop did when he looks in the mirror.

FWWM confirms this with That scene.

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« Reply #663 on: March 07, 2021, 10:59:02 PM »
I've been rewatching season 3 for the last few days, and it's so obvious that the whole thing takes place inside Laura's head that I'm embarrassed to have not realised it sooner. Every episode literally opens with a slow zoom into her head.

Am I the last person to realise this? I know there were all sorts of theories about who "the dreamer" is when it first aired, but I resisted the idea of it being something so obvious.

The characters are all aspects of her psyche, and abstractions of real people, explaining why there's such a sense of repetition (families of 3's, children, character traits, heads exploding / being removed).

I'm up to episode 7, and it makes it pretty clear that Laura is actually a living mentally ill person. This was an episode that seemed the most uneventful one of the run on initial viewing, but it's fascinating to watch it through this lens.

It's the episode where the Bad Cooper (a symbol both of Bob and of "unreality") spends the majority of it in prison. Most of the episode feels fairly slow, like set up for something else, because it's mostly a series of benign conversations. Frank calls Harry and gives him good wishes to get better. Hawk lays out the diary pages for Frank (3 diary pages found, with 1 still missing). Beverly flirts with Ben.

The main exception to these, tonally, is a scene where Diane confronts the locked up Mr. C about her rape. In this same episode, Dougie fights off Ike the Spike and is told by The Arm to "squeeze his hand off." A minute later, a woman interviewed on the news says "he was no victim." That is, I think, an inversion of the "dirty fingernails" scene from FWWM: Dougie is Laura, Ike is Leland, Janey-E is Sarah.

The tone changes a few minutes from the end: Beverly leaves the comfort of Ben, and dreads entering her front door to see her sick husband, Tom. He presses her on where she's been, accusing her of having an affair. It's the same "dirty fingernails" scene echoed again, when Leland asks where Laura got her necklace ("do you have a lover?"). Beverly touches her necklace in the scene. She ends it by saying "don't fuck this up".

Meanwhile, Cooper blackmails the prison warden into releasing him, by talking about Mr. Strawberry. He has one of his four legs hidden in his car, like the one in four diary pages still missing. He has some weird dialogue equating the dog legs to information.

So, "don't fuck this up," followed by Cooper's release. The final scene is the scene in the diner, "has anyone seen Billy?", and the shift to another reality. When Mr. C was locked up, Laura's psyche was gently nudging her into accepting reality; now that Mr. C is out, we've shifted back towards the bizarre unreality (basically, where instead of being abused by her parents, there are magic demons).

It makes sense of the infamous sweeping scene too, which happens in this same episode: he's cleaning the floor (the mind), by sweeping the disparate parts (the various plot lines and characters, which are abstract versions of Laura's "real" story), into one (the real or "official" version).

Thinking ahead, the Eat at Judy's scene is presumably a mental reimagining of Laura rescuing Donna in the Pink Room (even the name of the diner being a reference to that scene).

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« Reply #664 on: March 07, 2021, 11:33:34 PM »
I've been rewatching season 3 for the last few days, and it's so obvious that the whole thing takes place inside Laura's head that I'm embarrassed to have not realised it sooner. Every episode literally opens with a slow zoom into her head.

i seem to remember it takes place all over the US. i must have been watching the wrong series

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« Reply #665 on: March 08, 2021, 12:13:07 AM »
i seem to remember it takes place all over the US. i must have been watching the wrong series

Yeah, until they're all swept into one location.

In the early episodes, the monster comes through the box in New York and kills Sam and Tracey. A scene or two later, Ben Horne talks about there being a skunk in Mrs Houseman's room. In another episode, Red flips a coin, and a few scenes later, Hawk drops a coin and finds one of the diary pages near where it lands. Another episode has Frank's wife complaining about a death trap car, and a few scenes later, Dougie's car explodes. They are presumably echoing because they represent fractures of a single thought process.

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« Reply #666 on: March 08, 2021, 01:03:58 AM »
An interesting interpretation!

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« Reply #667 on: March 08, 2021, 01:06:59 AM »
Something else about the sweeping: episode 7 is all about the brain being cleaned up, with Mr. C in jail. At the end of the episode, he gets out, and reality shifts to a different course.

The next episode kicks off where episode 7 left. The floor of the Roadhouse has just been swept, and Mr. C has got out of prison. Later that night, NIN play the roadhouse, and the floor is filthy again.

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« Reply #668 on: March 08, 2021, 01:22:02 AM »
An interesting interpretation!

Thanks!

Re: Twin Peaks Season 3...
« Reply #669 on: March 29, 2021, 12:09:19 PM »
Kyle now putting photos of wisteria on Instagram.

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« Reply #670 on: March 29, 2021, 12:38:35 PM »
Yes, man!

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« Reply #671 on: March 29, 2021, 01:11:09 PM »
IT'S HAPPENING

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« Reply #672 on: March 29, 2021, 01:23:24 PM »
Maybe he just likes flowers... or it's a reference to his turn in Desperate Housewives

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« Reply #673 on: March 29, 2021, 01:26:20 PM »
Maybe he just likes flowers... or it's a reference to his turn in Desperate Housewives

It turns out Desperate Housewives is an alternate reality within the Twin Peaks universe.

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« Reply #674 on: March 29, 2021, 02:40:50 PM »
I see he also posted a gif of Cooper giving the thumbs up on Twitter on Friday.

I don't follow him on social media, so maybe he posts Cooper gifs regularly, but together with the wisteria thing it certainly suggests something is afoot.

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« Reply #675 on: March 29, 2021, 02:43:05 PM »
TBF he does post a lot of Peaks related pictures.

Buuuuuut, he's clearly teasing a bit by posting flowers with that name, and I definitely thinks he's part of this new show, whatever it may turn out to be

TLDR - I RECKON THERELL BE AN ANNOUNCEMENT IN MAY TO MARK 4 YEARS SINCE THE RETURN
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« Reply #676 on: March 29, 2021, 03:18:01 PM »
four years... fuck

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« Reply #677 on: March 29, 2021, 04:53:20 PM »
Bear in mind that Lynch likes to reuse cast members a bunch. Kyle was in Blue Velvet and Dune as well as Twin Peaks. Laura Dern was in Blue Velvet, Wild at Heart, Inland Empire and 'Peaks. Jack Nance was obviously in almost everything up until he went and got himself killed.

I'd be more excited if Nic Cage was involved. It sounds like Lynch really rates him as an actor, and Cage'll do any old shit for cash these days.

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« Reply #678 on: March 29, 2021, 05:11:47 PM »
Oh Cage working with Lynch again would be a dreeeaam

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« Reply #679 on: March 29, 2021, 07:59:58 PM »
four years... fuck

Yeah... that feels weird. Lockdown has screwed my sense of time royally.

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« Reply #680 on: March 31, 2021, 07:18:29 PM »
I watched Mulholland Dr. last night for the first time in years and realised it's 20 years old this year. It doesn't seem that old although at the same time it has quite a 90s feel to it (having been filmed mostly in '99 with TV production values probably contributing to this).

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Re: Twin Peaks Season 3...
« Reply #681 on: April 09, 2021, 11:53:11 AM »
A new person has started at my work, and is called....wait for it..... LAURA LYNCH

The biggest teaser yet that a new series is afoot!

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