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That eighties drum sound.

Started by Brundle-Fly, June 12, 2018, 04:25:06 PM

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purlieu

Quote from: darby o chill on June 12, 2018, 11:28:50 PM
Yeah I got that :) Also big in Electro circles. Mixes great with classic John Robie/Arthur Baker N.Y. things. But thanks for the recommendation. I'm lookin for more downtempo moody shit like the Pink Industry one.
Oppenheimer Analysis? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caP3tAmMEbc

Minimal Wave release a lot of interesting and obscure bits of (mostly) early '80s synth type stuff.

darby o chill

Quote from: Brundle-Fly on June 12, 2018, 11:44:06 PM
What are those boo-boo drums of the late 1970s? Rose Royce, Kelly Marie?

The laser type one? I think that's the Synare and/or Pollard syndrum. Used to be a gigantic list of all the Disco songs that used it on Disco-Music forums one time.

Quote from: purlieu on June 12, 2018, 11:44:17 PM
Oppenheimer Analysis? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caP3tAmMEbc

Oh - good that :) thanks

Brundle-Fly


Brundle-Fly


buzby

#34
Quote from: darby o chill on June 12, 2018, 11:28:50 PM
Yeah I got that :) Also big in Electro circles. Mixes great with classic John Robie/Arthur Baker N.Y. things. But thanks for the recommendation. I'm lookin for more downtempo moody shit like the Pink Industry one.
Early New Order, pre the arrival of the DMX?
Truth (1981 - Roland CR78 plus Synare)
586 (Peel Session version - DR55 plus SDS V - not long afterwards remade with the DMX for PC&L)

darby o chill

Quote from: Brundle-Fly on June 12, 2018, 11:54:15 PM
When it goes too far?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJvdWC7UEWI
Heard far worse treatments of great songs. Never heard that version, just played it 3 times. Do XTC purists hate it?

Quote from: buzby on June 13, 2018, 12:11:43 AM
Early New Order, pre the arrival of the DMX?
Truth (1981 - Roland CR78 plus Synare)
586 (Peel Session version - DT55 plus SDS V - not long afterwards remade with the DMX for PC&L)
I'm hip to Truth but not Peel session one. Ta Buzby

QuoteSDS V
Won't be long till LANDSCAPE get a mention.

purlieu

Quote from: darby o chill on June 12, 2018, 11:48:20 PM
Oh - good that :) thanks
Some nice synth-led tracks on Siouxsie & the Banshees' Kaleidoscope album - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9AfAB9Dqv8

darby o chill

Quote from: purlieu on June 13, 2018, 12:18:34 AM
Some nice synth-led tracks on Siouxsie & the Banshees' Kaleidoscope album - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9AfAB9Dqv8
Yeah I know that album. Siouxsie is great. Kind of outside my field but I found a track by Suicide once that I liked but haven't found it since cos googling them invariably leads you to the Samaritans. Pretty sure there was an almost military type drum machine vibe. But I could've been rat arsed and imagined it. I'm hogging the thread now - thanks for suggestions.x

Quote from: buzby on June 13, 2018, 12:11:43 AM
Early New Order, pre the arrival of the DMX?
Truth (1981 - Roland CR78 plus Synare)
586 (Peel Session version - DR55 plus SDS V - not long afterwards remade with the DMX for PC&L)
I always preferd the peel session version of 586.

Brundle-Fly

Quote from: darby o chill on June 13, 2018, 12:15:35 AM
Heard far worse treatments of great songs. Never heard that version, just played it 3 times. Do XTC purists hate it?


Yes. Almost as much as this remix? You can almost taste the residue of gak on the fader buttons....

Mmm...lovelyl....

NO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rz7YKg-Q-s


darby o chill

God that is very bad. The synth brass made me wince a little but I thought give it a chance. Then the piano comes in and we're totally fucked. Awful stuff. Still dig the first remix as a nice little diversion from the original. Bit puzzled at the way the snare was mixed (same drum track on both remixes) but it must've made sense to someone. The Maestro Rhythm King would sit nicely on it.

Norton Canes

Quote from: Brundle-Fly on June 12, 2018, 05:16:35 PM
Have a peep at the mini-doc I linked in the OP and the difference will be explained. It's only eight minutes long

Yeah, I watched it. Still sounds like a drum though. I mean it's not going 'woof'

buzby

Quote from: thraxx on June 12, 2018, 07:58:20 PM
Haven't heard that for years - really fancied Paula Abdul back in the day - but the cut off on that snare is fucking severe.
I'm pretty sure the abruptly truncated snare and kick samples are from the built-in drumkit sample bank in the later Roland D-series synths and modules (they are in the kit on my D5). There's D-series patches all over that track.

popcorn

Quote from: Norton Canes on June 13, 2018, 08:19:59 AM
Yeah, I watched it. Still sounds like a drum though. I mean it's not going 'woof'

You know when people talk amazing football goals? To me they just look like a man kicking a ball into a net. I'm not sure what else a goal could look like.

Kane Jones

Quote from: Norton Canes on June 13, 2018, 08:19:59 AM
Yeah, I watched it. Still sounds like a drum though. I mean it's not going 'woof'

I was 14 when I got my first drum kit. This would've been 1990. Most of the music I loved back then had the gated reverb sound. You would not believe my disappointment when I couldn't get my drums to sound like that.

They don't sound like dogs, no - but they sound incredibly different from real drums.

popcorn

Quote from: Kane Jones on June 13, 2018, 02:42:02 PM
I was 14 when I got my first drum kit. This would've been 1990. Most of the music I loved back then had the gated reverb sound. You would not believe my disappointment when I couldn't get my drums to sound like that.

It wasn't until the age of about 25 that I first played a properly miced up kit, in a studio, in a booth, with headphones on. It sounded fucking amazing, like I was playing a CD.

wosl

Quote from: Kane Jones on June 13, 2018, 02:42:02 PMthey sound incredibly different from real drums.

As different as Maradona's first goal against England in the 1986 WC QF looks from a man kicking a ball into a net.

I'd love an EMU SP1200 drum sampler, it's got that Boom Bap/Golden Era 12 bit crunchy hip hop sound


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60H8L-1BHfY



Sebastian Cobb

get a harmoniser on them snares lad

Pauline Walnuts

<tag>Mel Gaynor looks at thread and laughs</tag>

Endicott

Someone on previous page mentioned Simple Minds. The 12 inch of Speed You Love to Me was always much better at this than the 7 inch version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUUBPGswCLc

buzby

Quote from: Avril Lavigne on June 13, 2018, 09:23:35 PM
How about The Fall's Black Monk Theme?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu7-U1v2J1w
Craig Leon doing something very similar to Hannett's panned delay technique I'd say - the snare is central in the mix, it's reverb is panned to the right and then there's a very short delayed copy of the reverb panned to the left. It creates a distinct 'ping pong' effect  that makes the snare sound line it's rotating though the stereo image. Hannett does a similar thing on Everything's Gone Green.

Kane Jones

Quote from: popcorn on June 13, 2018, 02:46:56 PM
It wasn't until the age of about 25 that I first played a properly miced up kit, in a studio, in a booth, with headphones on. It sounded fucking amazing, like I was playing a CD.

Yeah, I can remember when I first experienced that. It was incredible. They still didn't sound like Hysteria or Infected though.

popcorn

Drum kits sound pretty shit when you just play them IRL, at least if you're really hammering them like a rock star. They're far too loud and everything just sounds like a big painful wash of white noise. Nowt's balanced.

Quote from: Endicott on June 13, 2018, 10:08:10 PM
Someone on previous page mentioned Simple Minds. The 12 inch of Speed You Love to Me was always much better at this than the 7 inch version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUUBPGswCLc

A Flock Of Seagulls The More You Love - Extended Mix has a heavy drum machine intro
https://youtu.be/imPVCEsMdwI

And the Omar Santana version of Spear Of Destiny - Never Take Me Alive

https://youtu.be/5zzYSwIwTQo

purlieu

Yes, they really punched up the drums in those '80s 12" remixes. The snare in the extended version of Talk Talk's 'Living in Another World' is almost excessive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abnsTLKZ9qs

Johnny Yesno


buzby

Quote from: Johnny Yesno on June 14, 2018, 11:40:01 PM
Shriekback - Mistah Linn He Dead: https://youtu.be/a-fGKEMSCTE?t=22m35s
I think that goes through all of the 80s snare effects as the track goes on! I am a bit partial to the 'dry and reverbed snare on alternate beats' technique.

Johnny Yesno

#59
Quote from: Funcrusher on June 12, 2018, 10:22:21 PM
I've heard that track before I think but never made the connection.

For heavy 80's drums a good option is to get Keith LeBlanc to play it and Adrian Sherwood to produce

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T-PlRkJtio

From the same year:

Cabaret Voltaire - Ghost talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjDNRUQ_-P0