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New Paul McCartney single and upcoming album 'Egypt Station'

Started by Nowhere Man, June 20, 2018, 11:06:22 PM

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Rocket Surgery

Quote from: Dusty Gozongas on June 22, 2018, 07:19:51 PM
I liked that the first time you posted it, so fuck you Brundle-Fly

That there's the fuckin spirit! Donk yourself B4 I hate myself [too late oops!]

SteveDave


jobotic

Quote"And I remember them playing me that. If my grandad was here right now, he'd get an absolute kick out of this."

McCartney made it even more poignant when he told Corden: "He is."

Corden made it even more poignant when he said "No Paul, he's gone"

McCartney made it even more poignant when he said "no James, he's here in your heart"

Corden made it even more poignant when he said "but my my heart is blocked broken Paul".

McCartney made it even more poignant when he said " maybe this can fix it my child" and performed a beautiful rendition of Why Don't We Do It In The Road?

MattD

Quote from: biggytitbo on June 22, 2018, 10:01:34 AM
Memory Almost Full is better, and more McCartney-esque, than Chaos and Creation. New is like Memory Almost Full but will less good songs on it.

Not technically a McCartney album but the 2008 Youth collobaration album 'The Fireman' was excellent.

biggytitbo

Quote from: Wet Blanket on June 21, 2018, 11:46:39 AM
I have to admit I liked that one he did with Rihanna and Kanye West


That is a great song, not sure how much Macca contributed, but he did of course win the 2014 grammy award for best rock song for 'cut me some slack', so its not like he's done nothing in recent times.

itsfredtitmus

I Don't Know is very fine

Sad that he will probably never do a song as good as the pepper pastiche of "NEW" (the song)

Famous for being a fat man, has their ever been a more damning title?


At least John Candy had talent.

MattD

Even more obscure was his collaboration with electronic dance group Bloody Beetroots.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yhIPGuGUPl4

Aside from the Youth collaboration The Fireman, he's never really strayed too far from the tried and tested since the 1990s. The McCartney that dropped weird albums like McCartney II isn't coming back and at his age, he can do what he pleases as he's earned it... but I'd love him to drop something that is downright odd. I wonder if it's anything to do with his 'national treasure' status that seemed to stick in the 90s and his knighthood he gained after years of criticism that he feels the need to protect an image?

Nowhere Man

Probably also that he got ripped to the shreds by critics and irate Beatles fans (who believed he was the reason the band broke up) for everything other than maybe Band On The Run for a decade or two after he went solo (Sometimes deserved, mind) even RAM of all things was called shit at the time. Lennon and hack critics like Robert Christgau making constant scathing comments in the midst of one of the most narcissistic eras of boomer culture probably left him overly sensitive to criticism.

Sometimes I wonder if after returning with 1989's Flowers in The dirt and fully embracing The Beatles back catalog on tour he decided it was better to be 'safer' in his music styling. (With exceptions, like The Fireman project) But I think the cultivated Beatle Paul image was also largely a result of the aftermath of Johns death and the loss of his hit making ability. Ironically in many ways he was more experimental when he was making chart topping hits. After the mid 90s wave of nostalgia resulting from The Beatles Anthology, Flaming Pie was his warmest received work in years too. So I think he decided to stay in Beatle Paul mode for the foreseeable future.

But anyway here's the critical reception RAM, arguably his greatest or 2nd greatest solo record received in the early 70s:

QuoteUpon its release, Ram was poorly received by music critics. McCartney was particularly hurt by the harsh reviews − especially as he had attempted to address the points raised in criticism of his earlier album, McCartney, by adopting a more professional approach this time around.[38] In his review for Rolling Stone, Jon Landau called Ram "incredibly inconsequential" and "monumentally irrelevant", and criticised its lack of intensity and energy. He added that it exposes McCartney as having "benefited immensely from collaboration" with the Beatles, particularly John Lennon, who "held the reins in on McCartney's cutsie-pie [sic], florid attempts at pure rock muzak" and kept him from "going off the deep end that leads to an album as emotionally vacuous as Ram".[39] Playboy accused McCartney of "substituting facility for any real substance", and compared it to "watching someone juggle five guitars: It's fairly impressive, but you keep wondering why he bothers."[40] Robert Christgau, writing in The Village Voice, called it "a bad record, a classic form/content mismatch", and felt that McCartney succumbed to "conspicuous consumption" by overworking himself and obscenely producing a style of music meant to be soft and whimsical.[41] Writing four years later, Roy Carr and Tony Tyler from NME suggested that "it would be naive to have expected the McCartneys to produce anything other than a mediocre record ... Grisly though this was, McCartney was to sink lower before rescuing his credibility late in 1973."[42]

His fellow ex-Beatles, all of whom were riding high in the critics' favour with their recent releases,[43] were likewise vocal in their negativity. Lennon hated the album, dismissing his former songwriting partner's efforts as "muzak to my ears" in his song "How Do You Sleep?" Starr told the UK's Melody Maker: "I feel sad about Paul's albums ... I don't think there's one [good] tune on the last one, Ram ... he seems to be going strange."[44]


biggytitbo

I didn't know Ringo said that, the opposite of the truth. At least Paul didn't take it to heart as he wrote and performed the best song on Ringo's next album.

Custard

#41
The last Fireman record was really bloody good. Electric Arguments. 2008. EDIT - As mentioned by a couple others!

There's usually one or two solid tunes on his new records. I don't think you can ever stop being a great songwriter. It just doesn't come out as much when you get past 50

MattD

Shocking how much McCartney was so unfashionable amongst the music press after The Beatles. RAM is a far superior album to Imagine in my opinion.

Nowhere Man

I quite like Plastic Ono Band in the right mood. But I can't think about Lennon in the 70s without thinking of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVDpPX37fkU


Nowhere Man

By the way, pretty much all of those quotes in the video are taken straight from his Rolling Stone interview:

QuoteWould you take it all back?     
What?

Being a Beatle?
If I could be a fuckin' fisherman I would. If I had the capabilities of being something other than I am, I would. It's no fun being an artist. You know what it's like, writing, it's torture. I read about Van Gogh, Beethoven, any of the fuckers. If they had psychiatrists, we wouldn't have had Gauguin's great pictures. These bastards are just sucking us to death; that's about all that we can do, is do it like circus animals.

One of my big things is that I wish to be a fisherman. I know it sounds silly – and I'd sooner be rich than poor, and all the rest of that shit – but I wish the pain was ignorance or bliss or something. If you don't know, man, then there's no pain; that's how I express it.

QuoteWhen did you first start having unpleasant words with Paul?
We never had unpleasant words. It never got to a talking thing, you see, it just got that Paul would say "Speak to my lawyer, I don't want to speak about business anymore" which meant, "I'm going to drag my feet and try and fuck you."

When the whole Northern thing was going on, we tried to save our fuckin' stuff [the publishing rights to most of the Lennon/McCartney songs] and he was playing hard to get, like a fuckin' chick, because he hadn't thought of it. It was a pure ego game, and I got into the ego thing, of course, but I was really fighting for our fuckin' business, and what I believed was our money. It wasn't just because I'd found Allen. I would have dropped Allen (Klein) if Eastman had been something; but he was an animal, a fuckin' stupid middle-class pig, and thought he could con me with fuckin' talking about Kafka, and shit, and Picasso and DeKooning, for Christ's sake, and I shit on the fuckin' lot of them.

I don't even know who the fuck they are; I just know that it's something that somebody has got hung up on the wall that he thinks is an investment.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/lennon-remembers-part-two-19710204

phantom_power

The older I get the more I think that Lennon was a massive fucking bell-end


grassbath

Lennon was a miraculously contradictory figure. For all the evidence that he was a spiteful, violent, narcissistic hypocrite, many of the people closest to him and who he deliberately hurt most - McCartney and his first wife Cynthia chief among them - still loved him and forgave him. Some excuse him on the grounds of a messed-up childhood and the corrupting influences of unthinkable fame and consistent drug abuse. Sometimes it's best to judge someone by the words and actions of the people who actually knew them - his gifts and the joy they brought to the world are more than apparent. I love Harrison's non-pandering, clear-eyed view here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpBO1FSh7zs 'He was no angel.' 'He wasn't.... but he was, as well.' 'Was he?' 'Yeah.'

Despite that, his gall in the Lennon Remembers interview quoted above is staggering. Claiming he hasn't heard of Picasso to push his fashionable pseudo-Marxist agenda of the period, when he went to fucking art school. Then belying his own classism by framing McCartney as some sort of social-climbing parvenu, just to get a dig in.

the science eel

Ah, George.

I don't know of anyone less obviously affected by stardom.

Anyway....

Dr Rock

Quote from: grassbath on June 26, 2018, 06:50:10 PM
Despite that, his gall in the Lennon Remembers interview quoted above is staggering. Claiming he hasn't heard of Picasso to push his fashionable pseudo-Marxist agenda of the period, when he went to fucking art school.

He wasn't saying he hadn't heard of Picasso was he? he was saying he shitted on him. Otherwise wise words, I think he's a massive, often cruel, often stupid bell-end but if the people close to him honestly defend him when they could be sticking the knife in (like other songwriting partnerships and bands that split), that's something.

biggytitbo

I've always found George to be the biggest dick-head in the Beatles, with some stiff competition from John.

grassbath




ajsmith2

Lennon is my favourite, sod the recent reactionary trend against him. I mean, fair enough to rehabilitate Paul who used to get slagged rotten in the 80s and 90s, but the 'actually Lennon was rubbish, not the God you think he is, mind blown eh?' backlash of recent years is tedious and has reached dumbo extremes these days. My least favourite manifestation I've seen of this of late is young uns casually remarking these days that Lennon 'wasn't a great singer'. WTF? He's the fucking GOLD STANDARD of rock singing you twerps.

TheMonk

"Come Onto Me"? That's his new song's name? For fuck's sale.
What a mental image. Jesus. Fuck.

the science eel

Quote from: biggytitbo on June 28, 2018, 02:59:38 PM
I've always found George to be the biggest dick-head in the Beatles, with some stiff competition from John.

This makes no sense at all whichever way you slice it.

Please elaborate.

biggytitbo

Cos George was a curmodgengly cunt pretty much constantly from the mid beatles period onwards, first off as a 23 year old man with the most privileged existence possible lecturing the plebs about how to live a worthwhile life, then spending the rest of his life as a multimillionaire entirely because of the Beatles fucking moaning and whingeing about the Beatles and what a fucking chore it was. I find every interview with him droning on post beatles about the beatles utterly unbearable, fuck off you ungrateful cunt. Lennon used to slag off the beatles too, but at least he was funny about it, and not a total bore, and Paul and Ringo always were usually positive about it even when they had good reason not to be, and today they are never less than glowing about how amazing it was to be part of that. You can imagine a 75 year old Harrison still moaning about it even now, the stupid insufferable sod.

SteveDave

Quote from: TheMonk on June 29, 2018, 11:40:43 AM
"Come Onto Me"? That's his new song's name? For fuck's sale.
What a mental image. Jesus. Fuck.

A 76 year old man writing a song about female ejaculation is fine.

biggytitbo

I imagine he's not spent the last 15 years on porn hub and thinks come on to me is a quaint 60s expression for someone making a pass at you. Just a guess, maybe Paul is a bukake obsessive.