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Preacher Season 3

Started by Small Man Big Horse, July 02, 2018, 05:39:28 PM

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Small Man Big Horse

Two episodes have aired so far and I'm quite liking it. I know, I'm as shocked as you are.

Good Things:
Herr Starr and the Grail are as ridiculously enjoyable as ever.
Jesse came across as more sympathetic in the first episode.
Tulip returning from the dead and (hopefully) not suffering from PTSD this year, and calling Jesse out on his shit.
Granma and her spooky shenanigans.
God's cameos are always fun.

Bad Things:
Jesse and Cassidy's dull feuding.
No Hitler or Eugene so far, despite the actors being in the main credits sequence.
Jesse not getting his soul back.

The Jury's Out:
Jody and TC. The former lacks the menace of the comic, and the latter is just a bit silly.

Overall: It's a definite improvement on last year's New Orleans dullness. But I'm still not optimistic it'll ever be great.

up_the_hampipe

Oh shit, I had absolutely no idea this was back. Thanks for the heads up. Needs me Gilgun fix.

Have they done any press for this?

amputeeporn

Yeah, surely this will be the last series? I'd totally forgotten it existed and haven't heard a whimper about it...

up_the_hampipe

Watched first ep last night. Pretty decent. Very confused by the big guy who helps Jesse then fights him for fun. I liked purgatory being Tulip's troubled childhood in a weird sitcom setting. I'm looking forward to Cassidy and Jesse's dynamic going forward, now that the love triangle is out in the open. Even though this show has downswings, it would be a shame for it to go away as it's different to anything else out there right now.

Are Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg still heavily involved with the project creatively? I'd be surprised if Movie Star Seth Rogen was still involved with a cable series in season 3.

Bazooka

Quote from: amputeeporn on July 02, 2018, 11:01:58 PM
Yeah, surely this will be the last series? I'd totally forgotten it existed and haven't heard a whimper about it...

Indeed, I even forgot to watch season 2.

Loved the 2nd series, especially all the stuff set in Hell with Aresface and Hitler, so have high hopes for this. IIRC though, none of the hell stuff was in the comics, was it?

2nd episode in and yeah it's still keeping the momentum going.

AsparagusTrevor

I liked last season but there were some proper lulls in the story that dragged the pace down. These two episodes have been good but I hope we don't get some boring filler in the next few weeks.

BeardFaceMan

Quote from: up_the_hampipe on July 03, 2018, 11:32:37 AM

Are Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg still heavily involved with the project creatively? I'd be surprised if Movie Star Seth Rogen was still involved with a cable series in season 3.

Hes currently in the process of fucking up The Boys so hes not leaving tv anytime soon. Sadly.

Mister Six

The Boys might work out all right though. Preacher was indivisible from the shock content, and trying to extract one from the other made the first season a bit anodyne and bland. Whereas The Boys is quite a good superhero/spy yarn wrapped up in tiresome Ennis schoolboy excess.

Small Man Big Horse

Episode 3

The Good: Tulip - The series is so much better when she's on form and not moping about. Really enjoying her interactions with God as well, the pre-credits sequence was great fun.

The Bad: The rest of it. Jeez this was a dull episode filled with way too much filler, and Cassidy and the whole love spell thing is an appalling idea, I really hope it goes wrong somehow and TC or Jody end up falling in love with him, but I doubt it'll go in that direction.

mothman

Based on the episode titles for the season I'm not sure they're going to spend the whole season in Angelville. I certainly hope so, anyway. It's getting boring now.

Small Man Big Horse

Quote from: mothman on July 09, 2018, 09:16:57 PM
Based on the episode titles for the season I'm not sure they're going to spend the whole season in Angelville. I certainly hope so, anyway. It's getting boring now.

Yeah, I'm sure I read in an interview that Angelville would only be part off the season. I really hope so as they've failed to make any of the characters menacing at all.

Edit: Here it is, though it does contain minor spoilers: https://www.showbizjunkies.com/tv/preacher-seth-rogen-evan-goldberg-interview/

up_the_hampipe

Yeah, I'm fed up of Angelville already. Some frail old lady smacking Jesse around is not working for me. More Herr Starr please. Less voodoo witchcraft. I'm hoping Cassidy doesn't become a villain in this, he's the only truly likeable character.

up_the_hampipe

Trailer from Comic Con previewing the rest of the season https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kmbZocvRiA

Could be pretty good. I like the look of Cassidy's storyline, and of course, more Herr Starr!

mothman

I wonder how many more seasons they're going to make. Five would be a likely round number, I guess, but four might do it based on how much of the comic they've used already (or have discarded and likely couldn't easily re-insert later in the narrative).

Small Man Big Horse

Quote from: mothman on July 22, 2018, 01:40:00 PM
I wonder how many more seasons they're going to make. Five would be a likely round number, I guess, but four might do it based on how much of the comic they've used already (or have discarded and likely couldn't easily re-insert later in the narrative).

Given how painfully slow this season has been it might be about fifty. I liked the introduction of the All Father and Cassidy's antics are okay but christ I'm bored of Angelville, I truly hope next week is the conclusion of that storyline or I might start skipping episodes until it becomes interesting again.

mothman

Me too. Next week has to be the end, surely. There's no mysery left - well, apart from how Gran'ma manages to end up having a meeting with a certain character, as seen in the ComicCon preview.

Small Man Big Horse

Blimey, it was actually a good episode this week! Largely due to Cassidy's plot line, and the All Father turning up to freak out Herr Starr, but Jesse actually had some fun for once as well. We're still in Angelville alas but next week's episode is entitled Hitler so I'm looking forward to it.

up_the_hampipe

The Cassidy storyline is entertaining, but the rest of this is a real chore to get through. Grandma and those two oafs make me zone out. Terrible. Also not sure how I feel about Herr Starr becoming a little yes man to some guy in a Monty Python fat suit.

Mister Six

It's insane how they made the Angelville storyline - the most horrific  and claustrophobic of Preacher's arcs - so dull. Almost impressive, actually.

Small Man Big Horse

Quote from: up_the_hampipe on August 04, 2018, 12:02:58 AM
The Cassidy storyline is entertaining, but the rest of this is a real chore to get through. Grandma and those two oafs make me zone out. Terrible. Also not sure how I feel about Herr Starr becoming a little yes man to some guy in a Monty Python fat suit.

That's faithful to the comics at least, and - SPOILERS - hopefully will end in the way the comics did as well.

Quote from: Mister Six on August 04, 2018, 02:32:32 PM
It's insane how they made the Angelville storyline - the most horrific  and claustrophobic of Preacher's arcs - so dull. Almost impressive, actually.

I was never a huge fan of it in the comics as I was more interested in the finding god stuff and it felt like a major distraction, but Granma was at least genuinely disturbing in the comics, and Jody a hateful cunt, so I agree that it's impressive / shocking as to how badly they've handled the material.

remedial_gash

I've never read the comics, but I think granny is great at being an insidious horrid cunt. The lunking tall one is just a doctor who 'thug one' but I quite like the smaller, more put-upon weird one, plus I found the latest episode to be a lot more fun than a few before.

After Patrick wotsisface I've started to appreciate Pip Torrens more, so yeah more Herr starr please - though the fat suit guy is hard to buy.

Just watched episode 7 there, it was fantastic with some really funny scenes. Loads crammed in and great to see some more familiar characters again too!

Small Man Big Horse

I enjoyed it too, though given the title of the episode it really is disappointing how little Hitler featured in it, but at least the rest of it was decent enough. It finally feels like they're having fun with the source material rather than being all moody and surly, and it makes an enormous amount of difference, I wish they'd taken this direction from the beginning.

mothman

Is it bad that I rather fancy Julie Ann Emery with a swollen/broken nose? And she was so sweet trying to be lovey-dovey with Herr Starr and him being totally oblivious and/or not caring one jot.

What I've liked abut the show is how it takes some pretty nasty, one-dimensional characters (barely deserving of the name, in fact) and makes them into fully-rounded, even sympathetic and possibly likeable ones. Sheriff Root, Odin Quincannon in season 1, Hoover & Featherstone in season 2, and now even Jody & TC, and Eccarius too.

I do feel like I'm just waiting for the end of these current assorted s3 plotlines now though. Some of these people have fairly iconic death scenes and I wonder how many of them will be retained... [$]I strongly suspect I know what's going to happen to the Devil once the Saint gets back to hell and gets his guns back; what that will mean for Arseface though I don't know. Will Gran'ma get blown to smithereens? Will Jody get killed by Jesse and use his last words to tell him he's proud of hm? Will Cassidy stake Eccarius - not through the heart, but out in the sun?[$]

One thing I do roll my eyes over is something I've seen in other televisual comic-book adaptations: Jesse has this awesome incredible power... and they have to keep coming up with contrived reasons for him not to use it (see also: Skylar and Peter Petrelli in Heroes). Sure, the current situation isn't without some elegance - Jesse gives the Saint part of his soul to enable him to control him, but then finds he can't control anyone else anymore - but I hope they won't continue with increasingly convoluted explanations for why Jess can't Talk his way out of scrapes. In the comic, he actively attempted to only use the Voice when necessary, because overusing it was tantamount to abusing this God-given (ish) power. It felt natural and organic. If they can't adequately match that then what is the point of making a show out of it at all?

up_the_hampipe

I'm so glad I never read the comics. That Eccarius twist was unexpected and exciting. I liked episode 7 a lot.

Another really good episode tonight I thought. Was really enjoying Tulip and her ongoing spat (she actually killed her I suppose) with Feaherstone. Also agent Hoover was extremely funny in his whole mission to get Cassidy. Really howling at some parts with this whole scenario. Herr Starr and Jessie had some brilliant scenes too. Yep, def a lot of dark humour throughout this episode.

Small Man Big Horse

I liked the latest and am glad to see the back of the All-Father, but have no idea why Jesse left Herr Starr alive. I mean, I'm glad he did as I like the character but he's messed with Custer's life (including being responsible for the death of Tulip) far more than the All-Father did. At the very least he could have commanded him never to go near him ever again, or something along those lines, so it seems odd that he didn't. Can't believe Tulip fucked up when she was so close to getting away with the souls too, and the bus bit confused a little as most of the time they were in some misty 'other place', so how the nazis tracked them down is something I'm not sure about, but hopefully that'll be explained in next weeks finale. It better be the last we see of Angelville too, if Jesse doesn't murder the fuck out of everyone I'll be hugely disappointed.

mothman

It'd be great to see the Angelville lot easily and biblically obliterated but I suspect they'll find some way to avoid it. They've been so enthusiastic about the storyline, padding it out - Hollywood lives rednecks, militias and cults, and Jody, TC and Gran'ma are basically all three.

NoSleep

Quote from: Small Man Big Horse on August 20, 2018, 01:50:33 PM
I liked the latest and am glad to see the arse-end of the All-Father, but have no idea why Jesse left Herr Starr alive.

FTFY

Liked that episode. We've had to wait all season to see some actual movement in the plot.