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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2070 on: December 05, 2018, 10:24:52 PM »
Yes sorry.

Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2071 on: December 05, 2018, 11:28:19 PM »
I know, what about a referendum about whether we want a second referendum? Or maybe just have a wank.

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2072 on: December 06, 2018, 12:06:28 AM »

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2073 on: December 06, 2018, 06:38:30 AM »
So the deal is even deader this afternoon than it was this morning. Most of the leavers on the Tory benches are banging on about the evil backstop.

Presumably even May knows this vote is lost, but we have to trudge through almost a week until the actual end.

But what then?

I suppose it matters what size defeat it is. If it’s too much May might be removed straight away. She probably won’t be though so what is her next step?

Spend the rest of the week convincing the ERG that the Grieve amendment makes NO DEAL an impossibility - if they want any kind of Brexit, they need to get behind hers.  And convincing the Soubrieites and Clarkeians that a vote against her agreement will mean civil war and worse still, a general election. 

It's all to play for my darlings, all to play for.  And I am mindful that, at bottom, most MPs are compromised self-seeking turds.

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2074 on: December 06, 2018, 06:59:42 AM »
I wonder how many hard Brexiteers are aware of the sunk cost fallacy? I bet it’s none.

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2075 on: December 06, 2018, 03:15:08 PM »
Ladies and gentlemen, let me present the Remain at all costs Liberal Democrats!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46470414

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2076 on: December 06, 2018, 03:20:54 PM »
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Channel 4 has announced that broadcast a Brexit debate on Sunday. It will feature “four high profile politicians” (as yet unnamed) “reflecting the main divisions in the House of Commons on this issue, Theresa May’s Deal, a softer Brexit, a harder Brexit and People’s Vote/Remain”.

Oh CHRIST

Quote from: Guardian innit
"I served in the Cameron Government, and then May's, I've been a member of the Conservative Party for two decades, and I voted for Brexit because I passionately believed in it. I loved all three, and now all three are in ruin. I'm very depressed". A senior Tory figure.

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2077 on: December 06, 2018, 03:22:55 PM »
Lumping People's Vote in with Remain is pretty illustrative of that campaign, which wouldn't be happening if they didn't think there was a chance it might come out as Remain.

Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2078 on: December 06, 2018, 06:09:15 PM »
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Quote from: Guardian innit

    "I served in the Cameron Government, and then May's, I've been a member of the Conservative Party for two decades, and I voted for Brexit because I passionately believed in it. I loved all three, and now all three are in ruin. I'm very depressed". A senior Tory figure.

I saw this and laughed, but I don't get it. What do they mean by all three? I hope Cameron is in ruins but want the others to be too, and that's four.

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2079 on: December 06, 2018, 06:10:57 PM »
I guess it's 'Government, Conservative Party, and Brexit'

But s/he's so heartbroken s/he's obviously not thinking clearly.


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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2080 on: December 06, 2018, 06:36:40 PM »
Lots of "senior Tory figures" at the moment.

Is this like with Corbyn where journalists know they can ring the same half-dozen rent-a-Judas cunts for the correct quote whenever they like?

Despicable, lets hope it gets her gone asap.

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2081 on: December 06, 2018, 06:40:21 PM »
Yeah probably, still, warms the cockles.

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2082 on: December 07, 2018, 08:46:16 AM »
It's going to be fine.

https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1070936000841609217

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Ministers will have the power to overrule doctors’ prescriptions in case medicines run out after Brexit. Urgent government consultation launched on Tuesday, leaked to The Times

Pharmacists will overrule GPs to ration drugs under a no-deal Brexit, The Times has learnt.

Ministers will order them to alter prescriptions without first contacting the patient’s GP in order to mitigate any extreme shortages, according to a leaked document.

The contingency measure was revealed in an urgent consultation begun this week by the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC). It called for rapid changes to medicine rules to “support the continuity of supply of medicines in a ‘no-deal’ scenario”.

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2083 on: December 07, 2018, 08:48:39 AM »
Wonder if that power extends outside of England.



Increasingly, it looks as though my plan of an Anglestan extending from Grimsby to Kings Lynn is the only moral option.

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2085 on: December 07, 2018, 11:12:28 AM »
Another step closer to the US-UK trade deal then.

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2086 on: December 07, 2018, 02:16:24 PM »
Yeah probably, still, warms the cockles.

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2087 on: December 07, 2018, 07:44:56 PM »

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2088 on: December 07, 2018, 07:49:34 PM »

Typical Tory arrogance / empire mentality on display there. Infuriating.

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2089 on: December 07, 2018, 08:23:13 PM »


Even by the standards of now, that is staggeringly idiotic.

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2090 on: December 07, 2018, 08:23:59 PM »
Priti bloody Patel - how is she allowed anywhere near public office

Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2091 on: December 07, 2018, 08:26:43 PM »
Thick and spiteful isn't she. She's probably been taking lessons on how to treat neighbours from those secret meetings with those senior Israeli's.

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2092 on: December 07, 2018, 08:46:39 PM »
Priti bloody Patel - how is she allowed anywhere near public office

At CCO they call her the "box ticker."

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2093 on: December 07, 2018, 08:46:52 PM »
A disgusting individual from a disgusting party. Even by Tory standards, that is an absolutely despicable, deranged thing to say.

Understandably, everyone is comparing this to Swift's Modest Proposal, but if anything, I think this sort of thing proves we're almost completely beyond the realm of satire now. Swift's satires were often executed by saying something incredibly shocking that would prove the opposite point (for those who aren't familiar, in A Modest Proposal, he argues that as a solution to hunger and poverty in Ireland, Irish children should be sold as food). Now, it's the politicians who say the incredibly shocking things, and they are far too stupid to do it with the ironic intent of Swift. Swift wrote A Modest Proposal to expose the callousness of the English ruling classes; the likes of Patel only expose their own cruelty and ignorance.

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2094 on: December 07, 2018, 09:03:58 PM »
A Priti Fine Mess.

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2095 on: December 07, 2018, 10:14:38 PM »
Link/image broken. What did she say?

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2096 on: December 07, 2018, 10:16:28 PM »
She wants to blackmail Ireland with food shortages if they don't accept the backstop.

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2097 on: December 08, 2018, 01:50:19 AM »
Priti Vacant.

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2098 on: December 08, 2018, 09:08:48 AM »
Blackmailing Ireland with food shortages when they have some of the largest agricorp groups in Europe based there.

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Re: Brexit Discussion Thread number 3
« Reply #2099 on: December 08, 2018, 11:25:15 AM »
If only there was some kind of arrangement countries could have to prevent their politicians trying stupid shit like this, a kind of union or something...