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Ball, Ball, Ball - Footy, Footy, Footy: 2018/2019

Started by gabrielconroy, July 22, 2018, 12:32:01 PM

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BlodwynPig


phantom_power

What has happened to Sanchez? Anything more than basic passes seems to be beyond him now

BlodwynPig

The Robins with 9 wins on the bounce! Premiership..."we" dare to dream.

kalowski


The Culture Bunker

Quote from: phantom_power on February 12, 2019, 09:51:44 PM
What has happened to Sanchez? Anything more than basic passes seems to be beyond him now
It's a curious one, as you see the odd bit of his old quality (the goal at Arsenal), but most of the time he lumbers around the pitch like, well, me.

Might be best to shift him off to China in the Summer, if someone there is daft enough to pay half his wages.

Bennett Brauer

Quote from: The Culture Bunker on February 12, 2019, 10:07:18 AM
As a kid in the 80s, I'd always enthuse how great Peter Shilton was (even though he was well past his best by this point) and my Uncles would get a bit wistful and says "ah, but you never saw Banks play". Mad to think he only won that one League Cup in club football, but it was a different game back then and the best players didn't always automatically gravitate to the "big" clubs.

Years ago I saw GB and his wife 10 yards in front of me in Leicester city centre, just before they went into Fenwick (the menswear entrance, let me know if I'm going into too much detail). Maybe my jaw dropped or I did a double-take, but he smiled and nodded at me before vanishing. Obviously he used to play for Leicester and maybe lived nearby, but seeing him out of the blue like that in real life was like a weird dream to this teenage amateur guardian of onion bags and goalkeeping obsessive. He was ace.

Coming soon, my John Burridge anecdote.

monolith

I really enjoyed hating United when Mourinho was in charge but I quite like them under OGS. First time in a while I can remember wanting United to actually win a match last night.

DrGreggles

Quote from: Bennett Brauer on February 13, 2019, 01:36:38 AM
Coming soon, my John Burridge anecdote.

I once scored 5 penalties out of 5 against Budgie at a charity day thing.
Put them all in the same corner.
He was pretty pissed off by the end of it.

I think he was at/had just left/was about to join Man City at the time.

Shoulders?-Stomach!

Whisper it but the save wasn't magical or physics defying, it was really good, exceptionally good, and involved an icon in a classic match, so definitely deserves prominence,  but seen dozens just as good in the last 10 years alone and the ludicrous attempts to dissect the save itself in the last 24 hours have exposed just what little there is to actually say about it that people are having to pile on blandishments to justify the hyperbole used.

jobotic

Quote from: monolith on February 13, 2019, 07:25:14 AM
I really enjoyed hating United when Mourinho was in charge but I quite like them under OGS. First time in a while I can remember wanting United to actually win a match last night.

Yep. It's just not the same.

Mind you it was the filth that are PSG.

Utter Shit

Quote from: Shoulders?-Stomach! on February 13, 2019, 09:43:50 AM
Whisper it but the save wasn't magical or physics defying, it was really good, exceptionally good, and involved an icon in a classic match, so definitely deserves prominence,  but seen dozens just as good in the last 10 years alone and the ludicrous attempts to dissect the save itself in the last 24 hours have exposed just what little there is to actually say about it that people are having to pile on blandishments to justify the hyperbole used.

Yep. Seaman vs Sheffield United in the FA Cup years ago is the best I've ever seen.

EOLAN

Tomasz Kuszczak's against Wigan Athletic would be top save for me (with some bias). Although watching it back; knowing he will save it, it seems to obvious he was going to do so. But at the time I just literally turned away cursing as Jason
Roberts was set to strike the ball so certain was I that he had to score. Unfortunately Kuszczak's highlight reel on Youtube is him predominantly making a lot of fairly bog-standard saves with Manchester United plus that one against Wigan rather than more spectacular ones with West Brom', Birmingham City and others.

I am sure Banks' had many saves to match or rival that of the one against Pele. I think the fact that it was also a big game in colour TV (and the extreme bright colour that Mexico 1970 seemed to be filmed in) also contributed to heightening the reputation of the save.

Norton Canes

Quote from: Shoulders?-Stomach! on February 13, 2019, 09:43:50 AM
Whisper it but the save wasn't magical or physics defying, it was really good, exceptionally good, and involved an icon in a classic match, so definitely deserves prominence,  but seen dozens just as good in the last 10 years alone and the ludicrous attempts to dissect the save itself in the last 24 hours have exposed just what little there is to actually say about it that people are having to pile on blandishments to justify the hyperbole used

I think the fact that it flips up over the bar makes it look more spectacular. If he'd just shoveled it round the post, it wouldn't be half as feted. Also I know this was before the era of multi camera angles but if a save is going to be lauded as the BOAT then it should at least be one where the TV camera shows it properly..

Shoulders?-Stomach!


DrGreggles

Quote from: Shoulders?-Stomach! on February 13, 2019, 09:43:50 AM
Whisper it but the save wasn't magical or physics defying, it was really good, exceptionally good, and involved an icon in a classic match, so definitely deserves prominence,  but seen dozens just as good in the last 10 years alone and the ludicrous attempts to dissect the save itself in the last 24 hours have exposed just what little there is to actually say about it that people are having to pile on blandishments to justify the hyperbole used.

It's the whole passage of play that makes it so good.
Pass-cross-header-save. Fucking wonderful.

billyandthecloneasaurus

Quote from: EOLAN on February 13, 2019, 10:28:52 AM
Tomasz Kuszczak's against Wigan Athletic would be top save for me (with some bias). Although watching it back; knowing he will save it, it seems to obvious he was going to do so. But at the time I just literally turned away cursing as Jason
Roberts was set to strike the ball so certain was I that he had to score. Unfortunately Kuszczak's highlight reel on Youtube is him predominantly making a lot of fairly bog-standard saves with Manchester United plus that one against Wigan rather than more spectacular ones with West Brom', Birmingham City and others.

I am sure Banks' had many saves to match or rival that of the one against Pele. I think the fact that it was also a big game in colour TV (and the extreme bright colour that Mexico 1970 seemed to be filmed in) also contributed to heightening the reputation of the save.

Yeah PIG was quality. Me and my dad wished him well at utd at the front of the brummy in his last home game.

Jockice


Head Gardener



just noticed I have a 7" single from 1972 with Gordon Banks singing on it, although oddly there is a different version on Discogs,
I think someone has photo shopped it already as some kind of bizarre tribute!?



Bronzy

This (double) save is better in my opinion, not to mention it being made in the FA Cup final.

https://youtu.be/PZmFoo4payA

Utter Shit

Quote from: Bronzy on February 13, 2019, 12:39:50 PM
This (double) save is better in my opinion, not to mention it being made in the FA Cup final.

https://youtu.be/PZmFoo4payA

The moment you open it up to double-saves (or more), the Banks one is nowhere near the best. Gomes used to make insanely athletic triple-saves on the regs for us, and would celebrate by immediately dropping a simple cross for the striker to tap in.

Don't even know why I'm bothering to ask because I've asked everywhere and no one remembers it - does anyone recall a save from Serie A in the mid-90s by Gianluca Pagliuca, which to my mind was probably the actual best of all time?

He makes an initial, unspectacular save and ends up on the ground facing up. The rebound bounces out to an attacker who clips it back over Pagliuca (still on the ground, sitting up), only for Pagliuca to launch himself up and backwards, somehow not only reaching the ball but managing to get enough power into his fingers to push it over the bar. I've never even seen a save like it, let alone better.

There's a chance I've built it up in my head over the years of being unable to track down a clip, but I distinctly remember thinking it was the best save I'd ever seen at the time and for years afterwards, before the memory gradually faded a little.

Seaman's is definitely the best easily-viewable one I've seen.

im barry bethel

Go on then I'll weigh in with some Pat Jennings

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r9fp4aD3X-E

(always got a hard on for that one handed catch)

lankyguy95

Quote from: EOLAN on February 13, 2019, 10:28:52 AM
Tomasz Kuszczak's against Wigan Athletic would be top save for me (with some bias). Although watching it back; knowing he will save it, it seems to obvious he was going to do so. But at the time I just literally turned away cursing as Jason
Roberts was set to strike the ball so certain was I that he had to score.
To be fair that's part of why the Banks save is so lauded, because it looks a certain goal the first time you watch. On the wider angle, you can see Pele start to celebrate.

The Seaman save against Sheffield United is still the most breathtaking one I've seen.

Captain Z

Axel Witsel is such a satisfying name to say. Angel Rangel would be another.

Bronzy

Nearly forgot about this one by Gregory Coupet:

https://youtu.be/-a_A2Tk6J4E

I don't know what the fuck his defender is doing though.

Shoulders?-Stomach!

Quote from: Bronzy on February 13, 2019, 08:48:45 PM
Nearly forgot about this one by Gregory Coupet:

https://youtu.be/-a_A2Tk6J4E

I don't know what the fuck his defender is doing though.

Fucking hell

The cunt should have cleared the first shot over the bar though and saved himself the hassle of following up

imitationleather


chveik


lankyguy95

Quote from: imitationleather on February 13, 2019, 09:55:25 PM
BT Sport turning into PornHub, there.
Robbie Savage does look like he's popped up in one of those amateur regional films.

Rolf Lundgren

Quote from: Shoulders?-Stomach! on February 13, 2019, 09:43:50 AM
Whisper it but the save wasn't magical or physics defying, it was really good, exceptionally good, and involved an icon in a classic match, so definitely deserves prominence,  but seen dozens just as good in the last 10 years alone and the ludicrous attempts to dissect the save itself in the last 24 hours have exposed just what little there is to actually say about it that people are having to pile on blandishments to justify the hyperbole used.

Banks' save might not be technically the best but it's virtually the definition of magical.

It's in the World Cup against arguably the greatest national team of all time with a cross from one of the best right wingers of all time and a header from one of the greatest players of all time. As a comparison, Seaman's save was made from a Paul Peschisolido header after a mishit from Carl Asaba. That's not to say Seaman's wasn't better from many other perspectives but Banks' has rightly entered legend for the save itself and circumstances behind it.

Bronzy

Quote from: lankyguy95 on February 13, 2019, 10:13:45 PM
Robbie Savage does look like he's popped up in one of those amateur regional films.

Just play this right before kickoff

https://youtu.be/OE3hF9fMp94