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Mission: Impossible 6 - Fallout

Started by chveik, July 22, 2018, 03:36:58 PM

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Quote from: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on July 31, 2018, 01:30:47 PM
That fight scene started to annoy me. The baddie got thrown through a wall and still managed to beat up Hunt and Walker. It's the same with the the climactic punch up against Mad Dog in The Raid.

That's part of what makes this movie great. Hunt isn't Captain America, his main skill is still in playing with rubber masks and outsmarting people. How many action films still go with that formula?

Granted he is still clearly superhuman.

Sin Agog

#61
Slightly annoyed that, out of all the British comedians they could have chosen to make a cameo, the one they plumped for was Lolly Adelope (in the Cruise running after Superman through the office scene).

Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth

Has anyone ever called the mask thing "deus ex maskina"? If not, I'm claiming it now.

Honestly, I don't view the stunts much differently than CGI. I appreciate the craft involved in both but, without a strong basis in character and story, it's all just so much empty spectacle. Cruise might as well dispense with the pretext of a film and just become an Evel Knievel style daredevil instead.

mrpupkin

Is this actually good then or will I hate myself for paying to watch something so idiotic as Tom Cruise jumping out of a plane and doing skids on a motorbike because a baddie is going to bomb the president? Please report self-loathing levels during viewing, thanks.

Bad Ambassador

Quote from: mrpupkin on August 10, 2018, 11:48:11 AM
Is this actually good then or will I hate myself for paying to watch something so idiotic as Tom Cruise jumping out of a plane and doing skids on a motorbike because a baddie is going to bomb the president? Please report self-loathing levels during viewing, thanks.

"Is this action film enjoyable or will I hate myself for watching an action film?"


Schnapple

This was really good. Script was watertight, gives Hunt enough depth without melodrama or forgetting about the action scenes, which are sensational.

Glebe

Saw it last week, very enjoyable fast-action romp goings-on.

Shaky

This was fine. Script and plot was nonsense - there's a bit where Cavill is explaining why Hunt might have turned and it literally makes zero sense - but the last act is a stunning spectacle. Not as good as Rogue Nation or Ghost Protocol, though, and the idea that this one has more depth than any other entries is pretty laughable.

Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth

One thing I noticed with this is that they seem to have completely dispensed with the idea of the team being made up of specialists. Rhames and Pegg's characters are both computer experts, which should make one of them redundant, except that Hunt does everything anyway.

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Was Cavill's character deliberately acting like a buffoon early on? He gets a big build up in his introduction, but then the parachute jump and the fight in the bogs make him look like a total chump.

I think that's the general approach of the franchise - even Cruise is shown as doing something death-defying and then twatting himself off the side of a building or falling off his bike. I think that's what's made the last three so much fun - they give you the stunts but show you how ludicrous they are at the same time. Reminds of me of what Jackie Chan was doing in HK in the 80s.

Mister Six

Was beardface the baddie in the last film? I can't remember a thing about it.

Thought it was rollicking good fun, though. Stunning setpieces, some good laughs, and I liked that they gave Monaghan a good send-off. It's felt a bit harsh, keeping her floating around in cameos since the third film.

One question though - White Widow says she wants Hunt to hand over MI5 bird in exchange for information but then that plot seems to just get dropped. What happened there? Mrs Six and I were a bit sleepy when we watched this, and both of us were left baffled by that.

kidsick5000

Quote from: Mister Six on August 25, 2018, 06:13:18 PM
Was beardface the baddie in the last film? I can't remember a thing about it.


He wasn't beardface in the last one. clean shaven. looked like malevolent chinless middle-manager.
This time looks like he's a martyred saint from a renaissance painting. 

Mister Six

It's crazy how little I remember about it. Pretty solid recollections of all the rest, but that one's an almost-total blank for me.

machotrouts

Saw this yesterday. It is everything I hoped it would be. Surprised by how much more I enjoyed it than the 5th one given that this is surely just more of the same, and I watched the first two on Netflix between that one and this one and thought they were basically dogshit. Strength to strength! Tom Cruise might actually die of old age by the time this franchise peaks. Fucking 56 years old and hasn't even STARTED the grizzled achey too-old-for-this-shit phase of his action hero career yet. He'll be 93 before the youthful rogue act stops being convincing and he rebrands by headlining a reboot of The Expendables or something.

I love how the stupid magic rubber masks in these films somehow never piss me off. It seems like it should be the bullshittest device, but every time there's a stupid magic rubber mask reveal, I go "ahhh, you know what, fair play, didn't see that coming... clever... nicely done... yep, good work guys, you got me".

Thought the White Widow would have a bigger role and somehow end up being the Secret Final Boss from the way people talked about her, but she's very engaging when she's on screen. Good work, whoever was the lass who played her. Nab her as a Bond villain or something.

Actually I didn't quite follow the Ilsa thread. They spent a while building up this conflict of interest between her and Ethan, and then it seems like she's just part of the team for the last half of the film, merrily following her IMF mates about? Did I miss a bit, or was she just SWEPT ALONG by the RELENTLESS ROLLERCOASTER ACTION like the AUDIENCE?

Well those were the thoughts I had.

olliebean

And how were the Korean subtitles for you? ;)

machotrouts

They were great thanks winky face. I don't know what you mean but if I have some kind of unearned forum reputation for learning Korean that's okay.

rasta-spouse

Anyone else find all the attempts at comedy in this quite strained?

Although I liked the mens room fighteroonie, everything else was a bit clunky. The flying around in helicopters at the end seemed to go on way too long, and whole film shows that McQuarrie's a really wooden director.

thugler

Finally saw this. My word that was dull, aside from 1 or 2 set pieces, it never really gets going and the plot is nonsensical dross. The last 3 of these have been boring as fuck.


phantom_power

Shot back to back as well, and considering how gruelling these films are they might either be a bit tame or it will finish the Cruiser off

Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth

Maybe he's secretly hoping to die on one of these, to escape scientology.

rasta-spouse

They could at least let De Palma do one more of these. Surely he's out of director jail by now.

Custard

He should do these til he does eventually cark it, as they are brilliant.

Still not seen the Jack Reacher films, despite owning both. Need to rectify that!

Cruise is a bit of a doughnut, but you can't help but love him for the sheer amount of effort and energy he puts into his roles. Him and Keanu should do a Ethan Hunt vs John Wick tear-up one day. WOULD BATTER BATMAN VS SUPERCAPEMAN

Glebe

A double-helping of explosive thrills awaits!

phantom_power

Quote from: Shameless Custard on January 16, 2019, 12:34:34 AM
He should do these til he does eventually cark it, as they are brilliant.

Still not seen the Jack Reacher films, despite owning both. Need to rectify that!

Cruise is a bit of a doughnut, but you can't help but love him for the sheer amount of effort and energy he puts into his roles. Him and Keanu should do a Ethan Hunt vs John Wick tear-up one day. WOULD BATTER BATMAN VS SUPERCAPEMAN

The first Jack Reacher film is surprisingly good. The second one is alright but not as good. I don't give a shit if he doesn't match the physical description from the book and the character is a bit different. The books are cod shit

Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth

Quote from: thugler on September 24, 2018, 10:56:04 PM
Finally saw this. My word that was dull, aside from 1 or 2 set pieces, it never really gets going and the plot is nonsensical dross. The last 3 of these have been boring as fuck.
No. Tom Cruise actually jumped out of a plane! No one can remember why, or anything else that happened, but it makes it the best action film ever!

Lord Mandrake

More like Mission Impossible Ballsout. Because of the way Cruise displays his shiny swinging sack, front and centre, present and correct. His erect balls hanging out of an aircraft. His immaculate, taut veg dismantling a dirty bomb. His freshly shaved cum pouch bouncing off a henchmans skull.