Poll

Will Trump be re-elected in 2020?

Yes because we're all fucked now
21 (38.9%)
Aye, probably
13 (24.1%)
No because Trump will eventually trip himself up
0 (0%)
No because the Democrats will triumph
2 (3.7%)
I HEAR YOU'RE A RACIST NOW FATHER
4 (7.4%)
Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, Kennedy and Stuart Sutcliffe
1 (1.9%)
It's all pointless - like bringing a knife to a gun party (Sandford, 18/06/16)
0 (0%)
Rode slipshod over all dumbshits, he were curious orange
1 (1.9%)
Search for "Goatse" increased by 600% since election outcome
2 (3.7%)
Pee Tape emerges with no real impact other than increased awareness of prostate check
0 (0%)
Trump steps down, Pence rises like a greying Ken doll found in a sewer full of pig fat
0 (0%)
In the episode, Captain Kirk stands trial on charges of negligence after a crewman fakes his own death.
0 (0%)
Imagine the size of his balls
0 (0%)
Obama emerges from the void screaming PULL YOUR PANTS UP, DAD'S HOME
0 (0%)
Not as good as The Wire
1 (1.9%)
Raoul Moat
3 (5.6%)
PLEASE GAS THIS WHITEHOUSE OF CUNTS
2 (3.7%)
Sauron falls through the bar
0 (0%)
As predicted by Frank T. J. Mackie
0 (0%)
Carry On Up The Arse
2 (3.7%)
The Mueller-Lite Effect
0 (0%)
The Further Adventures of Snow White Supremacist and the Fifteen Stupid Twats
0 (0%)
Trump re-elected as man plays Bela Lugosi's Dead on a tuba made of smegma
1 (1.9%)
#NotAllFAtStupidYanks
0 (0%)
I had a fat stupid yank in me car once, made a right fuckin mess
1 (1.9%)

Total Members Voted: 54

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Re: Trump number 8
« Reply #2970 on: September 10, 2019, 11:01:44 PM »
trump definitely fired him over the tash. hates the things. known for it, so he is.

John has passed away. RIP u will live on forever. Cant believe it. I wanna run to u. Really cant believe this. @

Re: Trump number 8
« Reply #2971 on: September 11, 2019, 11:10:01 AM »

Re: Trump number 8
« Reply #2972 on: September 11, 2019, 10:31:22 PM »
His suit jacket goes down to his knees and her gunt is enhanced by the shadow thrown by the sun. Scintillating sexual energy.

Re: Trump number 8
« Reply #2973 on: September 11, 2019, 11:24:27 PM »
Both Ilhan Omar and AOC criticising him on Twitter for palling up to Kim after the Bolton stuff now :(

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Re: Trump number 8
« Reply #2974 on: September 12, 2019, 03:36:11 AM »
The biggest takeaway from John Bolton's departure should be Trump's inability to stabilise the natsec position. Palace intrigue fans should note that Bolton was originally considered for this job at the same time as HR McMaster, in the post-Flynn resignation rush.

Apparently the signature Bolton moustache sealed the deal for McMaster, despite Trump's distaste for first appearances due to his ill-fitting civvies. McMaster adhered to military code that prevents serving or recently retired servicemen from taking up Article II appointments and wearing uniform, without official congressional exception.

On the day Trump announced McMaster's appointment (following admitted and indicted criminal Michael Flynn's short tenure) everyone was surprised by the hasty decision.

Multiple sources indicate that Steve Bannon's suggestion that McMaster wear his military uniform, after previously failing to impress Trump at a hastily convened Bedminster NJ  meeting - was the clinching deal in him getting that thankless job.

I've been surprised by the varying hot takes from anti-Trump beltway insiders, in the wake of his departure - no one wanted Bolton in that job, but in light of Trump's impulsive and chaotic approach to foreign policy, his known hawkishness and his inherent opposition to some of Trump's worst instincts, was regarded by some as a reassuring though undesirable known known (to bastardize Rumsfeld.)

Bolton's biggest failing was arguably not on policy (where he was essentially ineffective) but on his ego-driven refusal to follow the hawkish Kissinger model that has come to define the NSA role and subsequent expectations.

The National Security Advisor has historically undertaken an administrative and managerial endeavour. Rather than pursuing personal policy objectives, he/she is expected to chair NSC principal gatherings, where everyone from the Secretary of State through Defense Secretary to Treasury Sec offers up opinions aimed at guiding executive policy.

The role was created to filter these various positions, via a White House-located conduit capable of offering coherent advice to the president. The appointed NSA (technically just another senior WH Counselor role) traditionally is supported by an experienced staff of non-political civil servants, who both shop policy positions and liase as needed with relevant staff at deputy or assistant level within the various executive branches in apolitical fashion.

Unlike previous office holders, John Bolton neither availed himself of the advice from nor convened useful regular meetings of the NSC. The latter body was established by law in 1947, to best coordinate the policies of the Secretary of State, secdef, Treasury, CIA and any other part of the executive relevant to national security at any given time.

Though Eisenhower created the National Security Advisor role, it became more prominent and influential during the Kennedy and Nixon presidencies. Subsequently office holders have had varying degrees of influence and prominence.

US viewers will probably know that MSNBC's Morning Mika's father (WW2 refugee Zbigniew Brzezinski) became the post-Kissinger model for National Security Advisor in the White House, serving for the entirety of Jimmy Carter's single term. Brzezinski was considered hawkish in the context of the era and the regime of Cyrus Vance, though both survived Carter's pre-1980 election cabinet sackings!

Previously Henry Kissinger held on to his influential NSA role which defined post 1968 Vietnam policy, even after Nixon elevated him to Secretary of State - though Gerald Ford put in Brent Scowcroft for the last two years of his presidency.

Bush 41 appointed Scowcroft again in the same role, for his entire 4 years. Though Scowcroft had strong ties to Kissinger (having served under him) he escaped any involvement in the Iran-Contra Reagan era scandal (though he also was appointed to notionally investigate that by Bush 41.)

Recently, the longest serving National Security Advisor was the eminently qualified Susan Rice, who held the office for the whole of Obama's second presidential term. Since Trump is neither inclined to endure such tenure nor take such qualified advice, I think the TV pundits who have joked about Mike Pompeo taking on both jobs are on to the best outcome of a bad situation.

Since there is no black letter law outlining the NSA role, there is no constitutional reason why Trump can't just dispense with it. The point of that job is to funnel national security advice via various relevant sources, into one carefully distilled coherent policy position for the president to consider.

If President Trump is not willing to engage with sage advice from such a source, he might as well just get his natsec advice from a toadying sycophant. Let us not forget that when Pompeo was a Kansas House Rep, he was an extreme budget, debt, deficit and foreign policy hawk of the tea party persuasion.

Since he has subsequently subjugated all his principles to Trump, I say let Pompeo take on as many jobs as possible - for the short-term gain will be richly rewarded by the painful intellectual conservative ass-fucking he will be subjected to, once the Republican party rediscovers decency, in the far-distant post-Trump future!

Re: Trump number 8
« Reply #2975 on: September 12, 2019, 02:59:50 PM »
buckle up fuckos, it’s time for some Game Theory

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Re: Trump number 8
« Reply #2976 on: September 12, 2019, 03:15:13 PM »

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Re: Trump number 8
« Reply #2977 on: September 12, 2019, 03:44:28 PM »
buckle up fuckos, it’s time for some Game Theory

In how many dimensions?

Re: Trump number 8
« Reply #2978 on: September 12, 2019, 06:08:17 PM »
Both Ilhan Omar and AOC criticising him on Twitter for palling up to Kim after the Bolton stuff now :(

Of all the things you can criticise Trump for, normalizing relations to North Korea is probably the stupidest thing. Do these liberal hawks want an isolated NK? Maybe listen to the South Koreans, who avtually have to live there.