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Malcy

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Season 2 and other stuff
« Reply #330 on: April 24, 2019, 06:16:55 PM »
Star Trek is on it's arse. Fuck all these new shows.

Re: Star Trek: Discovery Season 2 and other stuff
« Reply #331 on: April 24, 2019, 06:36:25 PM »
Star Trek is on it's arse. Fuck all these new shows.

Unfortunately, I agree. When Seth MacFarlane is doing the best Star Trek on TV then there is something wrong. The new Picard show will be all dark and edgy, I'm sure. I'll give it a go but I am worried. I only have hope for the animated shows which I'm hoping work on the same level as The Orville.

But at least all the old stuff is still there. Watched the TNG episodes Future Imperfect and Final Mission yesterday. Completely forgotten the twist in Future Imperfect and it was really effective the way it played with the audience cynicism. I'm left delighted that episodes I've already seen can still surprise me with enough time passed.

The thing that really pisses me off about new Trek is all the articles talking about how Discovery is breaking new ground. Articles about Star Trek fans not being able to handle a female lead (this is something I genuinely saw when it was starting, I guess it was only 172 episodes so it is easy to ignore 25% of Star Trek canon) or stories revolving around religion breaking new ground for Trek (the Guardian said that one, I seem to remember) can only be written by somebody who has never seen Star Trek and has never heard of Wikipedia. It feels like Discovery is getting bigged up by talking down or willfully ignoring any achievements of old Trek. Meanwhile, Discovery builds itself around an Enterprise two-parter which itself was a prequel/sequel to three TOS episodes.


The new DS9 documentary is available for streaming for backers from tomorrow so I'll be watching that on Friday. Nice to be excited for some new Trek, even if it is just a documentary.

Malcy

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Season 2 and other stuff
« Reply #332 on: April 24, 2019, 06:39:34 PM »
Unfortunately, I agree. When Seth MacFarlane is doing the best Star Trek on TV then there is something wrong. The new Picard show will be all dark and edgy, I'm sure. I'll give it a go but I am worried. I only have hope for the animated shows which I'm hoping work on the same level as The Orville.

But at least all the old stuff is still there. Watched the TNG episodes Future Imperfect and Final Mission yesterday. Completely forgotten the twist in Future Imperfect and it was really effective the way it played with the audience cynicism. I'm left delighted that episodes I've already seen can still surprise me with enough time passed.

The thing that really pisses me off about new Trek is all the articles talking about how Discovery is breaking new ground. Articles about Star Trek fans not being able to handle a female lead (this is something I genuinely saw when it was starting, I guess it was only 172 episodes so it is easy to ignore 25% of Star Trek canon) or stories revolving around religion breaking new ground for Trek (the Guardian said that one, I seem to remember) can only be written by somebody who has never seen Star Trek and has never heard of Wikipedia. It feels like Discovery is getting bigged up by talking down or willfully ignoring any achievements of old Trek. Meanwhile, Discovery builds itself around an Enterprise two-parter which itself was a prequel/sequel to three TOS episodes.


The new DS9 documentary is available for streaming for backers from tomorrow so I'll be watching that on Friday. Nice to be excited for some new Trek, even if it is just a documentary.

Yep plenty of 700+ episodes 10 films & plenty of games to enjoy. Looking forward to my Blu-Ray of the DS9 Doc. Eventually...

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Season 2 and other stuff
« Reply #333 on: April 24, 2019, 08:37:14 PM »
Credit to whoever came up with that rotating gravity fight sequence, though. It was totally cool and not at all actually cringe worthy.

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« Reply #334 on: April 25, 2019, 09:36:01 AM »
Credit to whoever came up with that rotating gravity fight sequence, though. It was totally cool and not at all actually cringe worthy.

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Season 2 and other stuff
« Reply #335 on: April 25, 2019, 10:22:27 AM »
Credit to whoever came up with that rotating gravity fight sequence, though. It was totally cool and not at all actually cringe worthy.

Alberon

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Season 2 and other stuff
« Reply #336 on: April 25, 2019, 01:59:18 PM »

Chairman Yang

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Season 2 and other stuff
« Reply #337 on: April 25, 2019, 06:54:14 PM »
I think we can Discovery this up a bit more.


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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Season 2 and other stuff
« Reply #338 on: April 25, 2019, 11:13:56 PM »


It was directed by Stanley Donen, who had previously done Royal Wedding.


Alberon

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Season 2 and other stuff
« Reply #340 on: April 27, 2019, 12:53:56 AM »
Just finished the DS9 documentary. It was fine but missed out huge swathes of stuff you'd expect them to talk about (jokingly mentioned in the end credits but that only serves to highlight how huge an omission they were). They don't discuss the creation of the show at all aside from discussions on casting and designing the station. Unfortunately I'm left disappointed.

Malcy

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Season 2 and other stuff
« Reply #341 on: April 27, 2019, 01:19:02 AM »
Just finished the DS9 documentary. It was fine but missed out huge swathes of stuff you'd expect them to talk about (jokingly mentioned in the end credits but that only serves to highlight how huge an omission they were). They don't discuss the creation of the show at all aside from discussions on casting and designing the station. Unfortunately I'm left disappointed.

Disappointing to hear. Especially since it's been delayed over and over again. Hopefully it turns up online soon and I can decide whether to get the physical copy or not.

Re: Star Trek: Discovery Season 2 and other stuff
« Reply #342 on: April 27, 2019, 09:49:44 PM »
Disappointing to hear. Especially since it's been delayed over and over again. Hopefully it turns up online soon and I can decide whether to get the physical copy or not.

It might just be my expectations of it but it definitely feels muddled, poorly prioritised and too concerned about how the audience reacted. That being said, the actors reading out audience letters from the time is hilarious.

If they talked about a few more key episodes, the augment storyline, the Bashir/O'Brien friendship, the ending and more about the creation then it would feel complete. Cut out some of the lesser moments of the doc and you could fit all that in without taking the running time too much higher.

l'm hoping a good bit of my hopes are covered in cut content on the Blu-Ray.

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery Season 2 and other stuff
« Reply #343 on: April 27, 2019, 11:04:03 PM »
Did they mention how its working title was Deep Space Torture O'Brien?