#BoycottTheGuardian

[Pseudopath]

So this is trending tonight. Seemingly because of their ongoing claims of anti-Semitism within the Labour Party and  something to do with their treatment of Kerry-Anne Mendoza (Editor-in-Chief of The Canary).

Full disclosure: I'm left of Gandhi but haven't bought The Guardian since Araucaria died.

Wha'g'wan?

[biggytitbo]

The daily mail for the faux left centrists.

[pancreas]

I used to support them. I stopped about c1.5 years ago. I sent them an email telling them why, and even then, it was to do with fake antisemitism claims. They're unrelenting cunts and they are the enemy.

LRB FTW.

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

The Guardian is just all about attention now. Their establishment right-wingers wind the left up because the left assume The Guardian should be on their side. All it does it generate clicks to prop up their failing enterprise. Then they give articles to people on the left partly as lip-service but partly because it drives Progress clones wild on the other end of the spectrum. Clicks.

I would say the paper, on the current spectrum of all of them represents the fewest people in society. It is literally all about middle class liberal, largely white europhilic economic status quo supporting Londoners and couldn't project that any harder if they tried. And you know, they don't seem to care, and they don't seem to get that this is driving them out of business.

Instead of boycotting it, I would prefer to spectate on their demise. Once they go there will be not even a hint or pretence that there is any serious left-wing broadsheet journalism in this country. Perhaps the cognitive dissonance of that versus popular opinion will give rise to successful left-wing alternatives.

[Flouncer]

The daily mail for the faux left centrists.

I hate people who read the Guardian more than I hate people who read the Daily Mail, because at least the latter don't pretend that they aren't cunts. It's for people who cry crocodile tears at injustice whilst simultaneously opposing any serious measure to stop said injustice.

[Pseudopath]

LRB FTW.

London Review of Books? We could probably do with more clarity as the country lurches towards inevitable disappointment our glorious socialist dream.

[Funcrusher]

A centrist SJW shitshow.

[Pseudopath]

Instead of boycotting it, I would prefer to spectate on their demise. Once they go there will be not even a hint or pretence that there is any serious left-wing broadsheet journalism in this country. Perhaps the cognitive dissonance of that versus popular opinion will give rise to successful left-wing alternatives.

Either that or we'll just try to work out which of the horrible right-wing rags is the most socialist.

[finnquark]

Tribune has relaunched as a magazine, though the table of contents for the first issue looks naff.

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

Either that or we'll just try to work out which of the horrible right-wing rags is the most socialist.

Certainly the Mirror has done more for Corbyn than The Guardian has at this point, in that they are trying to pitch themselves as 'friendly to the ideas but cautious about the mood music' rather than The Guardian that are pitching themselves as "let's let Owen Jones earn us clicks while we collectively organise to prevent Corbyn from ever attaining power".

[pancreas]

London Review of Books? We could probably do with more clarity as the country lurches towards inevitable disappointment our glorious socialist dream.

Yes. You won't get 24 hours sporadic, biased, incomplete coverage on Trump and Brexit, but you will get, when someone feels they have something to say, a long, balanced, thoughtful piece on where some aspect of our world is at.

It's not to say that the 24 hour thing can be neglected, but you can have the freedom of knowing that you need never ever read another Andrew Rawnsley article for the rest of your life. There's something better to do.

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

I hope in an article about the sewer of vile online abuse this post of me saying I hope Andrew Rawnsley is fed into a compactor and QUITE LITERALLY PULPED receives prime positioning.


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/27/tories-petrified-jeremy-corbyn-rightwing-press-labour-party-conference

Anyway, look nerr establishment Guardian columnist bats for Corbs.

[pancreas]

Tbf, she really has been okay since the manifesto came out. Toynbee—currently Not Gay.

[Sebastian Cobb]

Bit like boycotting soda stream, as in it's a bit late for that; I don't really buy papers and use an adblocker.

I'm not surprised about the Guardian being effectively pro-establishment/centrist alongside some bollocks about kale being a 'superfood' and Hadley Freeman writing articles about John Hughes films being the work of the devil in the woke era. Far more bothered about how the New Statesman, an ostensibly still socialist paper has seemingly shat bricks about Corbyn and putting the boot in where it can.

[Beagle 2]

I checked it out on Twitter and of the random selection of tweets using the hashtag I viewed I genuinely can't tell which ones are parody accounts.

It does pump out unfalteringly irritating content but it's the smug middle class superior tone that gets on my tits more than the political slant. What would it matter if The Guardian were up Corbyn's arse anyway? Who's that going to swing? Leave it to the twats who lap it up, it's theirs now.

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

Before we get into the complex problems, what about the more basic one of having to read anything anyone with that face has written?

[Charcoal-ish]

The fact that there are still people who refuse to accept that there's a serious problem with antisemitism on the left and in the Labour party is incredibly depressing. The fact that some of them now want people to boycott a newspaper for pointing it out is genuinely terrifying.

[Funcrusher]

The idea that some people might not buy a newspaper is indeed genuinely terrifying.

[Sebastian Cobb]

Before we get into the complex problems, what about the more basic one of having to read anything anyone with that face has written?

Every single Guardian journos mugshot has that 'I smell excrement' look.

[a duncandisorderly]

The fact that there are still people who refuse to accept that there's a serious problem with antisemitism on the left and in the Labour party is incredibly depressing.

that there's an issue isn't the issue here. the issue is that every issue of the damn rag is obsessing over this to the exclusion of anything more meaningful.

I haven't bought a copy since long before the rev died; I still do the crossword, but I can't be arsed with print "journalism" at all these days.
all that ink, paper... & it's out of date before you get it.

[Sebastian Cobb]

all that ink, paper... & it's out of date before you get it.

Handy for masking something you need to spraypaint, stuffing in trainers you ran through the washing machine or to lay on the floor before cleaning the oven though.

[Ferris]

I sent them an email explaining why I was canceling my subscription of 10+ years (ever since I was a teenager growing up in a The Times household), that I was a lefty 20-something arts graduate, and that if they were losing me they needed to have a sharp look at their business model and who they were giving column inches to. They blocked my email from posting on CiF and did not respond. That was probably 2014.

I read it occasionally with an adblocker cranked up to 11, but I stick to the NY Times now (which I pay for). The level of coverage is night and day - it is laughable how poor the coverage in the Graun is in comparison. I won't miss it when it inevitably goes.

Did we ever work out where the GMG/Scott Trust had stashed its offshore millions? Worth investigating I reckon. I bet it is somewhere dodgy.

[Sony Walkman Prophecies]

London Review of Books? We could probably do with more clarity as the country lurches towards inevitable disappointment our glorious socialist dream.

London Review of Books is really life from the point of view of a struggling, subsidy-chasing, non-tenured academic. All very interesting, but hardly representative of anything else.

[the]

Unqualified but relevant Youtube link

[Pearly-Dewdrops Drops]

Are there better alternatives for daily updates on UK news, eg the status of Brexit negotiations?

[greenman]

Did we ever work out where the GMG/Scott Trust had stashed its offshore millions? Worth investigating I reckon. I bet it is somewhere dodgy.

Only a trust in terms of company name now of course.

[Paul Calf]

Media Reform Coalition finds serious errors in Graun, BBC, Independent among the usual right-wing arserag suspects:

http://www.mediareform.org.uk/blog/new-mrc-research-finds-inaccuracies-and-distortions-in-media-coverage-of-antisemitism-and-the-labour-party

[Twed]

Hah, fuck you The Guardian.

[a duncandisorderly]

it still doesn't look good for corbyn though, does it?

[biggytitbo]

How did the guardian mess it up so badly? There's such a dwindling audience for their status quo, reactionary liberalism, you'd think it would make business sense to move to the left on with most of their former readers.