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Sitting through a film your friends are loving but you fucking hate

Started by madhair60, October 17, 2018, 11:34:17 AM

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Puce Moment

Quote from: saltysnacks on October 19, 2018, 04:16:32 PMDisliking a work of genius is basically a crime in my opinion.

I just think that people who don't like works of genius will find each other and live happily ever after. Everyone else should aspire to something better - life is short, I have heard.

Brundle-Fly

Quote from: Sin Agog on October 19, 2018, 03:33:06 PM
Yikes.  Didn't see that disappointed schoolmaam edit.  I reckon the great online gender wars of recent years must have left you with some PTSD.  Wasn't trying to go there.  I just happen to have witnessed more blokes clinging onto their cultural obsessions until they draw blood than the other way round is all.  I definitely do it.*  It's why I've stopped making almost any cultural allusions with anyone I don't know really well.  That blank stare you get after you name-drop something close to your heart is too painful.  Kids have it right, making fifty new friends at Go Bananas simply based on the common denominator that they're also kids.




*For example I did exactly this ^ to a mate called Dave as well!   Not even Alice, either, but Faust.  I think it's easiy to forget there's a road to a movie like that.  You can't just drop an unsuspecting friend in marionetteville.

Sorry Sin, I was being a bit precious.

Brundle-Fly

Quote from: icehaven on October 18, 2018, 06:01:42 PM
Sounds like she'd decided she wasn't that bothered and used the first pisspoor excuse she could think of. Mate of mine got dumped by someone he'd been seeing for a couple of months because he'd let slip that he'd "once been considering becoming a vicar" and the dumper was apparently unable to accept this. He was gutted but really believed this was the reason, and we couldn't work out if it was better or worse to break it to him that it was just a bullshit excuse. If Wings of Desire girl was into that bloke he could have put his foot through the screen and she'd have decided it was good that he challenged her.

You have a point. There is always something more to these breakups than something as petty as not liking one's favourite film. That Wings Of Desire girl would be in her early fifties now. Maybe she married Will Gompertz?

Sin Agog


Brundle-Fly

Quote from: Sin Agog on October 19, 2018, 06:53:47 PM
It's all good in the hood, man.

; )

I made my girlfriend watch The Wicker Man (1973) on a very early date. She was completely nonplussed by the film and years later remarked to me what she thought at the time, "Why is he showing me this soft porn musical?"

QDRPHNC

Quote from: madhair60 on October 17, 2018, 11:34:17 AM
Pacific Rim and Spider-Man: Homecoming. Friends buzzing, enthusiastically talking about them. Me, desolate, depressed, having fucking hated them both. The worst feeling in the world. Worse than any other feeling that has ever or could ever exist so don't even fucking bother arguing.

Have you ever experienced this?

Don't ever have a kid.

garbed_attic

Quote from: Sin Agog on October 19, 2018, 03:33:06 PM
For example I did exactly this ^ to a mate called Dave as well!   Not even Alice, either, but Faust.  I think it's easiy to forget there's a road to a movie like that.  You can't just drop an unsuspecting friend in marionetteville.

I think it was the scene with the faux-Helen which got him.

Small Man Big Horse

Quote from: icehaven on October 19, 2018, 12:59:01 PM
Exactly what happened to me when an old colleague was asking for film recommendations for the weekend and I suggested Rubber (2010). Next time she saw me she actually said ''What is wrong with you??''

Heh, I had a similar thing happen when I recommended Rubber on facebook, and the next day a friend posted "What the fuck have I just watched?". I'm also a big fan of Dupieux's other films but haven't mentioned them on social media.

The worst case of this happening to me was with Wonder Showzen though. I watched it one night and fell madly in love with it, and the next day when my Sister and a friend visited I insisted they watched an episode. Both were left confused and bewildered, and slightly angry too.


Avril Lavigne

Quote from: Small Man Big Horse on October 20, 2018, 12:25:13 AM
Heh, I had a similar thing happen when I recommended Rubber on facebook, and the next day a friend posted "What the fuck have I just watched?". I'm also a big fan of Dupieux's other films but haven't mentioned them on social media.

The worst case of this happening to me was with Wonder Showzen though. I watched it one night and fell madly in love with it, and the next day when my Sister and a friend visited I insisted they watched an episode. Both were left confused and bewildered, and slightly angry too.

When my brother and his girlfriend said they had never heard of it I excitedly put an episode on and maybe around 7 minutes in they just gave some awkward fake pity-laughs, left the house without saying goodbye and drove off.

neveragain

I had the same thing with some uni friends and an episode of Human Remains. They just went to bed halfway through!

dex

I already posted in the Desolation thread but its just as relevant here. Went with the Mrs to watch Bad Times At El Royale on Sunday and thought it was the biggest pile of wank I'd watched in ages.

Small Man Big Horse

Quote from: Avril Lavigne on October 22, 2018, 03:32:52 PM
When my brother and his girlfriend said they had never heard of it I excitedly put an episode on and maybe around 7 minutes in they just gave some awkward fake pity-laughs, left the house without saying goodbye and drove off.

It's weird, I don't think Wonder Showzen is that out there a show (well, bar Patience) but it does seem that some people just don't take to it at all.

manticore

When I was on a mental ward in the mid 90s a scary bloke who was in there to recover from heroin brought a video of 'Pulp Fiction' for a bunch of us to watch. I said I didn't really want to and he looked at me and said 'why not?' in a slightly bellicose way, so I sat down and did what I was told.

I do not like that film, I think it's heartless and cold and barbarous, but then I can't extricate the experience of it from the context of a barren delapidated room with a bunch of men taking pleasure in it, several of whom had some barely suppressed rage broiling within them, which made the film seem rather more close to the bone and difficult to separate from reality, especially with the state my wits were in at the time.

garbed_attic

Quote from: Small Man Big Horse on October 23, 2018, 05:14:11 PM
It's weird, I don't think Wonder Showzen is that out there a show (well, bar Patience) but it does seem that some people just don't take to it at all.

It's quite aggressively trolly and its politics are barbed and sometimes it's outright exploitative... so, I find it less palatable than the outwardly more avant-garde Xavier or even The Heart She Holler.

neveragain

Yeah, there's the homeless-baiting and the stuff the kids say will turn a lot of people off. Also the 'Horse Apples', 'Clarence' and episode that ends with that massive clusterfuck ('Cooperation'?) are all pretty out there.

Quote from: icehaven on October 19, 2018, 12:59:01 PM
Exactly what happened to me when an old colleague was asking for film recommendations for the weekend and I suggested Rubber (2010). Next time she saw me she actually said ''What is wrong with you??''

It's rare to laugh at 5:40 in the morning. Fantastic stuff. Respect.

Shoulders?-Stomach!

Recentish ones:

Brent film
Jurassic World
Hobbit III

-

Kinda soured the general mood sharing my thoughts after those


Clownbaby

Stupidly went over to a mates house for a Lord of The Rings MARATHON because they were all going and I was a bit lonely. Never been so bored in my life. I really don't understand the appeal of those films at all. And don't anyone explain the appeal to me. If I've seem them all in their entirety back to back and learned about a the context and bits from the books that should have been in the films from all the people sat around me as I watched them and still don't like them then it's not meant to be.

Also any time I'm bored/lonely and someone invites me to the cinema to see a Marvel film. Every friend likes them and discusses them at length afterwards. I need to stop going to things just because I'm bored.

Also got set up with a lad, went on a first date with him to the cinema (his idea) to see Mockingjay (his choice) over Mad Max. Turned out we indeed had shit all in common.

I get this kind of gap in understanding more with TV shows to be honest though. A friend was glued to the screen watching 13 Reasons Why (he recommended it to me because, in his words "it's so relatable emotionally and it's not packed with white people like everything is now") and I gave it a go because I don't have Netflix or any other TV subscriptions, and I wanted to give as many new shows a go as I could when I popped round to his place. Unfortunately he had completely different taste in TV to me so it was all 13 Reasons Why and Big Mouth and new Simpsons and comedians who he said were better than Amy Schumer but were actually very similar.

Also my mam, who usually has basically my taste in things cause I find something and show it to her and she usually enjoys it, likes Downton Abbey "for some reason. I don't know why, cause nothing bloody happens, but I just...like it" so that was on for what felt like 3 hours and swallowing up every Sunday

hedgehog90

Sitting through all 3 in a row, that's... that's something. Well done, I think.
I remember watching the first LOTR at a friend's house and had a very similar experience.
I saw the third one at the cinema around the same time, assuming I'd enjoy it more on the big screen, but if anything found it even duller.
The LOTR films (and fantasy-action films in general come to think of it) induce a special kind of boredom that I haven't experienced for some years, thankfully. A sort of aching, claustrophobic boredom sustained by sadness.
Fortunately we've all got smartphones nowadays, which helps to prevent boredom from reaching critically high levels.

olliebean

Quote from: hedgehog90 on October 27, 2018, 05:10:46 PM
Sitting through all 3 in a row, that's... that's something. Well done, I think.

Ah, but were they the extended versions? Because, fuck me, that was an ordeal. I'd seen the first one in the cinema when it came out, and it had put me off bothering with the other two, but somehow I was persuaded to  do all three extended versions in one day, in preparation for seeing the first Hobbit film at the cinema the next day.

To be fair, I did quite enjoy The Hobbit, once I'd spent the first hour adjusting to the 3D (which I've never particularly liked and still avoid where possible) - but in retrospect, perhaps I mostly enjoyed it in contrast to the LotR's, because I found The Hobbit 2 quite tedious for the most part and have so far managed to avoid seeing part 3 entirely.

Clownbaby

They were the extended versions and guess what, The hobbit had just come out on DVD so they lumped that in as well. Fucking hell I was bored

Clownbaby

Quote from: hedgehog90 on October 27, 2018, 05:10:46 PM
Sitting through all 3 in a row, that's... that's something. Well done, I think.
I remember watching the first LOTR at a friend's house and had a very similar experience.
I saw the third one at the cinema around the same time, assuming I'd enjoy it more on the big screen, but if anything found it even duller.
The LOTR films (and fantasy-action films in general come to think of it) induce a special kind of boredom that I haven't experienced for some years, thankfully. A sort of aching, claustrophobic boredom sustained by sadness.
Fortunately we've all got smartphones nowadays, which helps to prevent boredom from reaching critically high levels.

Yeah there's a unique emptiness I get as well watching these kinds of films. A "these are obviously so loved, how am I not seeing it, how" pit in my stomach while I'm just sat there like this


Blue Jam

Quote from: Sin Agog on October 17, 2018, 02:26:49 PM
It is stupidly silly being that emotionally invested in a piece of pop culture that you'll let it sour a whole relationship for you.

https://www.datingformuggles.com

Clownbaby

When I was 12 all my friends fell out with me at the same time because I wasn't into Twilight. I didn't like or dislike it, I completely didn't care either way. I'm not in contact with many of them anymore but the ones I have spoke to since will never admit they ever liked Twilight ever

Bhazor

Same for me but with Harry Potter. Big reader as a kid and I just hated how popular such middling books had become. The whole Young Adult craze has always annoyed me. Needless to say I found myself left out from a lot of friendly bonding. Well that and the allegations that I was a spazzy fat wanker who loved men and had no mates. Which were mostly basless.

Clownbaby

Quote from: Bhazor on October 28, 2018, 10:32:03 AM
Same for me but with Harry Potter. Big reader as a kid and I just hated how popular such middling books had become. The whole Young Adult craze has always annoyed me.

Yeah I never really got into any teen books, teen movies etc cause once I got bored of kids things I just kind of skipped straight past all the next step tween/teen stuff.

Avril Lavigne

Quote from: Clownbaby on October 28, 2018, 09:59:18 AM
Yeah there's a unique emptiness I get as well watching these kinds of films. A "these are obviously so loved, how am I not seeing it, how" pit in my stomach while I'm just sat there like this

I'm the same and I feel like it's just down to the way I've never connected with High Fantasy at all, either as a kid or an adult.  I can see that the LOTR movies are major technical achievements but nothing about the world or characters depicted intrigues or interests me on any level.  See also; all High Fantasy TV shows and video games.

I didn't ever 'get' superheroes either (as a kid I thought they seemed ridiculous and corny) but in recent years I've had to grow some appreciation for the Marvel movies over time, to keep from feeling left out of my friend group when everyone is hyped about going to the IMAX together to see the latest installment.

Blue Jam

Quote from: Bhazor on October 28, 2018, 10:32:03 AM
Same for me but with Harry Potter. Big reader as a kid and I just hated how popular such middling books had become. The whole Young Adult craze has always annoyed me.

Quote from: Clownbaby on October 28, 2018, 10:34:36 AM
Yeah I never really got into any teen books, teen movies etc cause once I got bored of kids things I just kind of skipped straight past all the next step tween/teen stuff.

I'm just glad all that stuff was a bit "after my time". I was into the Point Horror novels for a bit but I quickly got into Stephen King and properly bad, trashy horror novels by the likes of James Herbert and Shaun "The Real Garth Marenghi" Hutson. Other girls at my school would nick their mothers' Jackie Collins novels and read out all the sex bits to a giggling audience during rainy breaktimes.

Just like teenage boys getting their grubby mitts on FHM, and teenage girls getting More magazine just for Position of the Fortnight, we would never have been interested in things aimed at our actual age group. We were way too sophisticated and mature for that- well, way too curious about naughty forbidden grownup stuff at least. Novels "for young adults"? Fuck that. That's like finding out there's a pub in town where the staff never check anyone's ID and then still deciding you'd rather go down the youth club.