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Sitting through a film your friends are loving but you fucking hate

Started by madhair60, October 17, 2018, 11:34:17 AM

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Avril Lavigne

Quote from: Blue Jam on October 28, 2018, 11:41:22 AM
we would never have been interested in things aimed at our actual age group. We were way too sophisticated and mature for that- well, way too curious about naughty forbidden grownup stuff at least.

This is why I wasn't interested in Buffy The Vampire Slayer when every girl in my High School English Set was going nuts over it.  It was a very sanitized take on horror at a time when I was buying tapes of things like Day of the Dead and Naked Lunch.  Ironically I really like the show now, only 20 years too late for it to benefit me socially.

Clownbaby

Same here with my Twilight loving mates, they liked True Blood as well which I boycotted at the time cause I fully expected it to be just like Twilight, then just a couple weeks ago I finally gave it a go and it's actually pretty decent in a campy way. Twilight is still shit tho

Avril Lavigne

Quote from: Clownbaby on October 28, 2018, 12:25:46 PM
Twilight is still shit tho

I watched the whole Twilight saga just to see what the fuss was about and out of 5 movies the only thing I remember is the ending of the last one, and that's only because it was an utterly bizarre way to resolve the central love triangle: Jacob finally stops trying to get with Bella because he falls in love with her and Edward's recently-born baby instead, who luckily grows up really fast. Everyone is happy The End.

Howj Begg

I watched Reality Bites with my mates when we were all 16, with growing disgust.  They loved it, and I was absolutely flummoxed. it was so obviously a pile of patronising focus-grouped shite, and they'd bizarrely fallen for it. I felt almost embarrassed and shamefaced pointing out what crap we'd just sat through, it was like letting off a fart and calling attention to it.

I think eventually one friend admitted to me he'd only liked it out of peer pressure.

Ferris

Quote from: Dannyhood91 on October 17, 2018, 01:29:22 PM
Picture This starring Ashley Tisdale in 2008. The most nothing film I've ever seen

Truly, Madly, Deeply with Alan Rickman as a sad ghost. Friends loved it, I thought it was absolutely nothing.

chveik

geez arent you bitter

also you don't have to turn every thread into a tiresome 'shit for cunts' one. god knows they are enough of them already..

Sin Agog

When did Y.A. become a legit genre?  I know that writers have cast their crosshairs on the adolescent market ever since Catcher in the Rye, but was there a 1-2-3 trifecta or something that properly pushed it into existence?   Not knocking it, by the way.  There's something about hormones that makes the world magically intense, so I can see why artists keep on going back to that age for inspiration.

hedgehog90

Just remembered the time I made my mum watch Eraserhead.
I think it took all her willpower and strength to sit through it, and not verbally question me afterwards on my mental well-being.

I used to do that type of thing a lot in my mid-late teens, forcing odd things I liked on a completely unsuitable audience, before realising how deeply twatty and confrontational it was.

Also, the time I played nothing but early 80s no wave and hardcore punk to my dad and his 70-odd father-in-law on a 7 hour car-journey from Devon to the Lake District.

Also:
- Playing inappropriately heavy music during Christmas dinner.
- Forcing my DVD of Hated: GG Allin and the Murder Junkies upon several friends.

olliebean

Speaking of epic fantasy stuff, surely I can't be the only person who had to sit through an entire season of Game of Thrones (thankfully not back-to-back) before I would be believed that it really wasn't my sort of thing, and it wasn't that I just needed a bit more time to get into it.

greenman

Quote from: hedgehog90 on October 28, 2018, 04:36:54 PM
Just remembered the time I made my mum watch Eraserhead.
I think it took all her willpower and strength to sit through it, and not verbally question me afterwards on my mental well-being.

I used to do that type of thing a lot in my mid-late teens, forcing odd things I liked on a completely unsuitable audience, before realising how deeply twatty and confrontational it was.

Also, the time I played nothing but early 80s no wave and hardcore punk to my dad and his 70-odd father-in-law on a 7 hour car-journey from Devon to the Lake District.

Also:
- Playing inappropriately heavy music during Christmas dinner.
- Forcing my DVD of Hated: GG Allin and the Murder Junkies upon several friends.

Personally I do tend to think we often underestimate the degree to which you need to develop an appreciation of art, not just a case of open mindedness but a very specific skill that's learnt by repeated exposure to it. I mean I remember disliking most jazz in my late teens but a few years exposure changed that totally, albums like say Miles Kind of Blue or Dark Magus sounded utterly different to my memory of them.

Recently I convinced a friend who isn't normally that adventurous in his tastes to Watch Under The Skin(aided somewhat by the knowledge Johansson sans clothes would be present doubtless) and some of the discussion we had during/after it did seem to highlight this for me. The scene releasing Adam Pearson's character for example her motivation for doing so wasn't really picked up on.

I'm guessing beyond asking more of the viewer in terms of thought a significant issue with a lot of arty cinema is probably the kinds of performances, being able to read them. Indeed I wonder how much cinematic taste as whole is influenced by that considering there seems to be quite a significant difference in how well people read emotion in everyday life even before any cinematic "training".

Avril Lavigne

Quote from: olliebean on October 28, 2018, 05:15:12 PM
Speaking of epic fantasy stuff, surely I can't be the only person who had to sit through an entire season of Game of Thrones (thankfully not back-to-back) before I would be believed that it really wasn't my sort of thing, and it wasn't that I just needed a bit more time to get into it.

I watched the first episode after I'd had at least 5 friends tell me I NEED to get into GoT, and also after I'd been to a GoT-themed rave and felt a bit odd for not being in costume or knowing what anyone else was supposed to be dressed as.  So I finished the episode and didn't hate it or begrudge anyone else for liking it or anything but I was just like



and since persevering with it means dedicating a lot of time that I'd rather spend on a wider variety of media probably more suited to my tastes I didn't bother with the rest.  I do have a friend who was in the same situation and pressed on with the whole first Season after not getting into the first few episodes, and he said that while it did eventually start to get pretty good, it still wasn't so amazing as to be worth the time investment and he didn't bother with Season 2.

hedgehog90

I had a similar response to GoT, but I continued onto season 3 before giving up.
Compared to other Tolkien-esque fantasy things I've seen, I actually found it somewhat watchable, but at the end of the day it's just a glorified soap opera with tits & swords.

Clownbaby

It always annoys me when someone says they really want to give a series a go and then after sitting through 10 minutes they start going through and faffing with something instead of giving it a proper go. My mam was enthusiastic about giving Twin Peaks a proper watch, made it to about 15 minutes into the pilot episode and started doing the washing saying "don't bother pausing it" and then of course she didn't know what was going on, people's names etc. I think she's got a funny thing about Twin Peaks, she's convinced herself she won't like it because her sister was all over it when it first came out and when someone else is going on about something you haven't seen it sort of becomes annoying hearing the references and quotes being said wrong/repeated by someone without context

Blue Jam

Quote from: greenman on October 28, 2018, 05:41:22 PMPersonally I do tend to think we often underestimate the degree to which you need to develop an appreciation of art, not just a case of open mindedness but a very specific skill that's learnt by repeated exposure to it.

It's like acquiring a taste for anything, isn't it? If you just eat chicken nuggets and chips and never try anchovies, olives, oysters etc you'll never know if you'd actually end up liking them. Or maybe it's more like going for hotter and hotter curries instead of just eating korma...

A friend of mine watched Todd Solondz's film Wiener-Dog and didn't even make it to the halfway point before deciding it was horribly racist and switching it off. This was about the part where the young boy's mother is trying to explain why they needed to get his dog spayed and she makes a total hash of it as it bizarrely escalates into an Islamophobic rant and a metaphor for Them Coming Over Here And Destroying Are Way Of Life. I found that bit absolutely hilarious- and I had thought the whole point of that was showing that his smug, yoga-practicing, organic granola-munching, "crunchy" California parents who probably think of themselves as so very "woke" were actually really horrible people with zero empathy (and were also terrible parents).

My friend is no pleb, but I can see how a lot of people wouldn't really enjoy having such a film dropped on them.

hedgehog90

Quote from: Clownbaby on October 29, 2018, 10:10:37 AM
It always annoys me when someone says they really want to give a series a go and then after sitting through 10 minutes they start going through and faffing with something instead of giving it a proper go. My mam was enthusiastic about giving Twin Peaks a proper watch, made it to about 15 minutes into the pilot episode and started doing the washing saying "don't bother pausing it" and then of course she didn't know what was going on, people's names etc. I think she's got a funny thing about Twin Peaks, she's convinced herself she won't like it because her sister was all over it when it first came out and when someone else is going on about something you haven't seen it sort of becomes annoying hearing the references and quotes being said wrong/repeated by someone without context

I had the exact same thing with my mum and Blue Velvet. She was into it at first, but then Frank Booth appears and the whole 'baby wants to fuck' shit goes down and I could tell she was hating every second of it.
She spent the rest of the film in and outing just like your mam, with the old 'don't pause it, I'll only be a minute' line.
I get it wasn't her bag in the end, but it's so frustrating when the whole point is to watch something together and they pull that trick.

On a tangent, that reminds me of the time when me and an old friend went to the cinema a few years ago. About half way into the film I went to the loo, couldn't have been more than 2 minutes, but when I came back he was gone. The screen was about 2/3rds full and I spent the next 15 minutes looking for him, figuring this was a practical joke of some sort. I must have seemed like a very special kind of person to onlookers, walking up and down the aisles, craning my neck, squinting in the dark. I finally left the screen and checked the lobby, but still nothing. After much fretting and anxiety, I rung him and he told me he'd gone shopping because the film was shit. Not in a 'just kidding' way, he was totally matter-of-fact about it.
The film was indeed a big pile of shite, but I went back and continued it to the end, despite missing about 20 minutes in the middle.
I think we were supposed to meet up afterwards but I turned my phone off and went home as some kind of revenge. We've since lost touch.
I mean, who does that?

Anyway, after the Blue Velvet disaster I somehow got my mum to watch Twin Peaks (including FWWM & Season 3) earlier this year and she really enjoyed it.
It was a wonderful experience, especially the third season, to see her genuinely engage with the apex of Lynchian weirdness.
I highly recommend you take a second crack at it, but this time set some ground rules, be subtle about it though :)

neveragain

Quote from: hedgehog90 on October 29, 2018, 05:22:49 PM
I think we were supposed to meet up afterwards but I turned my phone off and went home as some kind of revenge. We've since lost touch.

Good.
That's exceedingly twatful behaviour.

Custard

#76
I too had to sit through one or six of the Twilights whilst working in a care home a few years ago. Stunningly appalling films. Absolutely rancid. Terrible story, acting, direction, cinematography, awful CGI that won't be aging well, and the aforementioned werewolf shacking up with the lady one's daughter.

They're not even funny bad films, just fucking risible on every level


Dannyhood91

My exes two favourite films were Hard Candy and Factory Girl.

One was a horrible torture porn film that looked like it was made by a college film student and the other was about the Kim Kardashian of the 60's starring Sienna Miller. I couldn't even pretend to like them as they both seemed to go on for about 40 hours each. Hard Candy was just violent and hateful and Factory Girl was pretentious load of nothing with some of the worst casting I've ever seen.

Clownbaby

Quote from: hedgehog90 on October 29, 2018, 05:22:49 PM
I had the exact same thing with my mum and Blue Velvet. She was into it at first, but then Frank Booth appears and the whole 'baby wants to fuck' shit goes down and I could tell she was hating every second of it.
She spent the rest of the film in and outing just like your mam, with the old 'don't pause it, I'll only be a minute' line.
I get it wasn't her bag in the end, but it's so frustrating when the whole point is to watch something together and they pull that trick.

On a tangent, that reminds me of the time when me and an old friend went to the cinema a few years ago. About half way into the film I went to the loo, couldn't have been more than 2 minutes, but when I came back he was gone. The screen was about 2/3rds full and I spent the next 15 minutes looking for him, figuring this was a practical joke of some sort. I must have seemed like a very special kind of person to onlookers, walking up and down the aisles, craning my neck, squinting in the dark. I finally left the screen and checked the lobby, but still nothing. After much fretting and anxiety, I rung him and he told me he'd gone shopping because the film was shit. Not in a 'just kidding' way, he was totally matter-of-fact about it.
The film was indeed a big pile of shite, but I went back and continued it to the end, despite missing about 20 minutes in the middle.
I think we were supposed to meet up afterwards but I turned my phone off and went home as some kind of revenge. We've since lost touch.
I mean, who does that?

Anyway, after the Blue Velvet disaster I somehow got my mum to watch Twin Peaks (including FWWM & Season 3) earlier this year and she really enjoyed it.
It was a wonderful experience, especially the third season, to see her genuinely engage with the apex of Lynchian weirdness.
I highly recommend you take a second crack at it, but this time set some ground rules, be subtle about it though :)

It's so annoying. I just bet she'd quite like it if she gave it a proper bash. It's happened a few times where I've been watching something unfamiliar, she's gone "what's this shite" thinking it'll be shite and then given it a proper go based on my word that it isn't shite, enjoying it after that.

kngen

I find showing someone a film I think they should enjoy to be an excruciating task, so I don't do it anymore. Unfortunately, this is seldom reciprocated, so I've had to endure many a load of old shite with a rictus grin (or saddened countenance) lest I offend people in the way they have offended me.

Thus, I had a newfound admiration for James Cameron when he rewarded those that endured the first half of Titanic with a hour's worth of iceberg-colliding mayhem that made The Poseidon Adventure look like a kayak capsizing. Hard fucking going before that, though.

saltysnacks

Anything laddie like Snatch. I have 3 friends who are complete lads and I can't stand the films they watch.

Others include: Green Street, American Pie, The Inbetweeners etc etc.