Harry Potter [split topic]

[madhair60]

Superheroes? No problem. Harry Potter? But it's for children!

This is literally just true though.

[Uncle TechTip]

They have curses in Harry Potter too you know.

[Chollis]

I had no idea mild-mannered Harry Potter made people so ANGRY!!!!!!

[bgmnts]

Can you imagine a world where you replace Harry Potter with something really dark and depressimg, like Conrad's Heart of Darkness or something?

Would be ace.

[gilbertharding]

So we're agreed. Harry Potter is ok. It's fine. Anyone over the age of 10 who thinks the books and/or JK Rowling is any more than that, or any less, is almost certainly wrong.

Close the thread.

[BlodwynPig]

So we're agreed. Harry Potter is ok. It's fine. Anyone over the age of 10 who thinks the books and/or JK Rowling is any more than that, or any less, is almost certainly wrong.

Close the thread.

Nope, just checked. Still a twee coda at the edge of oblivion.

[Space ghost]

Over five years old this thread.

[Phoenix Lazarus]

I'm just going to come out and say adults shouldn't like Harry Potter and all who do need to grow up.

But Harry Potter is, or would be, an adult-and I don't mean Dan Radish, who played him.  The books have eleven year-old Harry start secondary school in 1991, so he would be thirty-eight by now.

[saltysnacks]

But Harry Potter is, or would be, an adult-and I don't mean Dan Radish, who played him.  The books have eleven year-old Harry start secondary school in 1991, so he would be thirty-eight by now.

I don't mean this in an arsey way, but....your point?

[Twed]

All fiction is aimed at an audience that is the same the age of its lead character. Legally, you have to be 72 before you're allowed to watch Worzel Gummidge.

[bgmnts]

I'm just going to come out and say adults shouldn't like Harry Potter and all who do need to grow up.

You can't come out in two different threads.

[FredNurke]

Yes he can, he's bi.

[Phoenix Lazarus]

I don't mean this in an arsey way, but....your point?

Sorry.  Misread your quote as 'adults shouldn't be like Harry Potter."

[saltysnacks]

Yes he can, he's bi.

Maverick, me.

[Mister Six]

All fiction is aimed at an audience that is the same the age of its lead character. Legally, you have to be 72 before you're allowed to watch Worzel Gummidge.

Doctor Who's audience is especially niche.

[saltysnacks]

I think there is a genuine division to be made between two kinds of statement with the same words. 'You shouldn't do that' and 'You shouldn't do that. People who make a fetish of free speech/expression/choice seem to think that every time the phrase 'you shouldn't do that' is uttered, there is some kind of call for legislation. When I say you shouldn't read Harry Potter, I mean it as an adult telling another adult that you shouldn't really be wasting time on something that is far beneath your potential. It is a normative expression and an opinion, and I certainly wouldn't ban Harry Potter (well....), but I think we currently live in a culture that is far too infantile. I have no problem with pop culture, I consider The Fall to be one of the greatest projects of the 20th century, but pop culture today largely seems to be defined as anything shat out by the The Democratic Republic of Disney, if I have to see another fucking video essay on a Marvel film, I swear to Christ! These creations are infantile, numbing and offer almost nothing beyond illustrating the ideology of our day.

If it helps you get through a shit day, fine, but it can become a crutch and it is really worthwhile to engage with more meaningful content. If you like stuff that is 'childlike' or 'fantastical' Alan Garner or TH White would be a fine replacement.

[marquis_de_sad]

I think there is a genuine division to be made between two kinds of statement with the same words. 'You shouldn't do that' and 'You shouldn't do that.'

Maybe these italics would help clarify your point (if I understand it correctly).

[saltysnacks]

Maybe these italics would help clarify your point (if I understand it correctly).

That is definitely an element, but it is mainly the difference between a crime and something that is maybe a little undignified.