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Recommend me a fucking amazing film

Started by Small Man Big Horse, November 23, 2018, 04:21:18 PM

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George White

The Ruling Class from 1972.

It's a mess, but it's singular.

hedgehog90

Quote from: Pearly-Dewdrops Drops on November 24, 2018, 02:11:46 AM
F.W. Murnau's version of Faust - Lynchian weirdness from the silent era

Watch it even if you're not normally a fan of silent movies

Saw this 2 nights ago!
It's amazing to look at, for the first 30 minutes anyway.
I doubt there was a more ambitious silent era film made (haven't seen Murnau's follow-up Sunrise yet).
I loved the broad and fabled style. The story is told like an old parable, like many silent films I guess, but this one felt more legitimate.
Didn't get much of a Lynch vibe while watching it, but there are certainly some superficial similarities (use of darkness)
Definitely one to watch if you haven't seen it already.

Spoon of Ploff


NoSleep

#63
Quote from: hedgehog90 on November 24, 2018, 11:23:43 AM
Didn't get much of a Lynch vibe while watching it, but there are certainly some superficial similarities (use of darkness)

While on the subject of Lynch; have you seen any of the films by Maya Deren? Her Meshes Of The Afternoon (1943) appears to be a direct influence on Mulholland Drive, both in its dreamlike quality and its central theme. I won't link to a youtube of it as I can't find a single one with the original soundtrack; seems to be a sport to replace it.

EDIT: found! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0tDufAxI2I (fucking amazing, btw)

hedgehog90

^ Cheers, never heard of this one before! I'm trying to find a blu-ray quality version but I might have to settle with youtube quality.

Here's some more recommendations:

Double Indemnity [107 min] (1944) - Billy Wilder meets insurance-fraud-noir. Don't let the boring title fool you, this is ace!

Ran [162 min] (1985) - Kurosawa meets King Lear. "Grand", "epic", etc. A feast for the eyes. Somewhat slow & lengthy but not the slightest bit dull. It's Lear ffs.

Forbidden Zone [74 min] (1980) - Oingo Boingo meets 6th-dimensional musical-comedy. Delightfully strange, camp, funny, and chock-full of tits. The music is excellent too.

Picnic at Hanging Rock [115 min] (1976) - Peter Weir meets big mysterious rock. Weird posh girls go missing during school-trip. Unknown forces! It's all a bit scary. Madness follows. chviek and I agree, fantastic film.

The Killing (1956) [84 min] - Kubrick meets heist-noir. Barrels along like a prized race-horse, consistently enjoyable & entertaining throughout!

Sin Agog

When I was a troubled spawn of a broken home who really hated maths, I once tortured an Australian exchange teacher into going home despairing.  I remember, in a brief respite from fucking up his lesson, asking him what his favourite movie was, and he said Picnic at Hanging Rock.  It wasn't until years later, when I finally saw it and realised how sensitive the poor old Brucey must have been, that I really felt the full weight of guilt I should have felt all along.

I know SMBH is getting into anime.  I highly recommend you drift off one night to Angel's Egg.  It's really still and meditative, so nothing like Mind Game which I know you loved, but I could live in the vast dreamscape it creates.  Full thing here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIhKqaNp4Dc

George White

7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964) - Despite the initial "velly solly" yellowfaced appearance of Tony Randall, this is just a feint (he's a stage "Chinese magician", the accent is revealed to be phony and he's not human either), but worth it for the utter strangeness of a film. A close cousin to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, though thevery TV western setting is a bit wearing, but it's a showcase for Randall who plays characters of every gender, species, nationality...

BlodwynPig

I'll be watching Picnic at Hanging Rock, thanks Hedge (I had heard about it, but never bothered to find out more).

Quote from: hedgehog90 on November 24, 2018, 11:23:43 AM
Saw this 2 nights ago!
It's amazing to look at, for the first 30 minutes anyway.
I doubt there was a more ambitious silent era film made (haven't seen Murnau's follow-up Sunrise yet).
I loved the broad and fabled style. The story is told like an old parable, like many silent films I guess, but this one felt more legitimate.
Didn't get much of a Lynch vibe while watching it, but there are certainly some superficial similarities (use of darkness)
Definitely one to watch if you haven't seen it already.

I'm reminded of Lynch in the sense that very unsettling visuals are passed off matter-of-factly. Can't quite describe it but there's something unique about it. Also the scenes with Mephisto rematerializing all over the place directly remind me of the woodsmen in Twin Peaks 3. Would love to score it with that music that plays right after Red shoots Bad Cooper

Sunrise has even more impressive visuals (and Max Schreck in Nosferatu is more iconic), though I'm actually partial to The Last Laugh.

hedgehog90

#69
I totally get what you mean by the matter-of-fact presentational style, and I got a bit of a woodsmanny vibe from that particular scene too.
Yes, it's all a bit Judy now that you mention it.
I'm curious as to how they made Mephisto's eyes light up like that, before LEDs. I guess they were able to manufacture tiny indiscreet lightbulbs of some sort back then.
It reminded me of a computer game where the enemies eyes lit up and left light trails. Legacy of Kain maybe.

Shit Good Nose

Quote from: BlodwynPig on November 24, 2018, 03:20:45 PM
I'll be watching Picnic at Hanging Rock, thanks Hedge (I had heard about it, but never bothered to find out more).

Don't be tempted to watch the recent TV adaptation.  It's fucking shit.

NoSleep

#71
Quote from: hedgehog90 on November 24, 2018, 05:23:10 PM
I'm curious as to how they made Mephisto's eyes light up like that, before LEDs. I guess they were able to manufacture tiny indiscreet lightbulbs of some sort back then.
It reminded me of a computer game where the enemies eyes left lit up and left light trails. Legacy of Kain maybe.

I've not seen the film (can you point me to a clip?), but couldn't it have been done by extra exposure in the developing process around the eyes; maybe passing the film through twice with one of the times masking all but the eyes (I suppose this depends how static the image is when it occurs). Another possibility is dying the eyes to reflect light stronger; monochrome film is very selective as to what is light or dark.

EDIT: Having seen some stills I see that Mephisto is fully body-painted (quite darkly, or, at least, some colour that doesn't reflect much in monochrome), so the right exposure could really make the whites of the eyes stick out.

Here he is, having a fag.


Shit Good Nose

Haxan, along those lines, is an experience as well.

hedgehog90

Quote from: BlodwynPig on November 24, 2018, 03:20:45 PM
I'll be watching Picnic at Hanging Rock, thanks Hedge (I had heard about it, but never bothered to find out more).

Sorry to overdo the Lynch comparisons, but that film reminded more than anything of Twin Peaks: The Return, with regards to the unknowable mystery, the question with no answer, which so fascinates me.
Also uses some similar low rumbly sound design, which I've developed a strange kind of Pavlov's dog response to since Peaks. Rather than salivate though it makes me cum uncontrollably.

Quote from: NoSleep on November 24, 2018, 05:37:47 PM
I've not seen the film (can you point me to a clip?), but couldn't it have been done by extra exposure in the developing process around the eyes; maybe passing the film through twice with one of the times masking all but the eyes (I suppose this depends how static the image is when it occurs). Another possibility is dying the eyes to reflect light stronger; monochrome film is very selective as to what is light or dark.

It looked like a small emittal of light, very subtle, I don't think they could have used double exposure.

Quote from: Shit Good Nose on November 24, 2018, 05:47:12 PM
Haxan, along those lines, is an experience as well.

Haxan and Faust would make a great double bill.

NoSleep

Quote from: hedgehog90 on November 24, 2018, 05:51:28 PM
It looked like a small emittal of light, very subtle, I don't think they could have used double exposure.

I've edited my post since:

Quote from: NoSleep on November 24, 2018, 05:37:47 PMHaving seen some stills I see that Mephisto is fully body-painted (quite darkly, or, at least, some colour that doesn't reflect much in monochrome), so the right exposure could really make the whites of the eyes stick out.

Here he is, having a fag.



Shit Good Nose

Quote from: NoSleep on November 24, 2018, 05:37:47 PM
Here he is, having a fag.



Mephisto smokes unfiltered Marlboros for that full Marlboro taste.  Marlboro Unfiltered - better the devil you know.

Peru

Quote from: hedgehog90 on November 24, 2018, 11:23:43 AMI doubt there was a more ambitious silent era film made

Get on to Abel Gance's Napoleon and DW Griffith's Intolerance. You won't regret it!

hedgehog90

Quote from: NoSleep on November 24, 2018, 05:37:47 PM
EDIT: Having seen some stills I see that Mephisto is fully body-painted (quite darkly, or, at least, some colour that doesn't reflect much in monochrome), so the right exposure could really make the whites of the eyes stick out.

Mephisto appears in many different forms, that's just one of them.
Here's the scene I'm referring to.
On re-watching it it clearly looks like they put something reflective over his eyes, and its just reflecting light.
Still, nice effect!

NoSleep

Stuck some nasty mirrors in his eyes; although they may just be pasted to his eyelids.

MuteBanana

Predestination - Headfuck time travel film

Eight - A woman with OCD struggles with her morning routine to get ready for work

Inside Out - I just remembered this film. Anyone who struggles to understand depression should watch it.

zomgmouse

Quote from: Shit Good Nose on November 24, 2018, 05:47:12 PM
Haxan, along those lines, is an experience as well.

My first thought on seeing that picture too. Great stuff!

NoSleep

God Damn Religion by Sir Richard Bishop is a pretty fucking amazing film (nicks a couple of bits from Haxan along the way). Devilishly good.

full movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anr1KEdeNas

zomgmouse

Some more:
Rubin and Ed
Sweet Movie
Mr Freedom
The Saddest Music in the World
The Boom

Shit Good Nose

I still think Sorcerer and Wake In Fright are musts for any self-respecting or budding film buffs.

I've missed the deadline on this, but in case you have another shit night's sleep, I think these films fulfil your criteria:

Russian Ark
A Field in England
Nosferatu (Herzog)
The Saddest Music in the World
4
Inland Empire
The Wild Blue Yonder
Last Year in Marienbad
Songs From The Second Floor
Upstream Color
Decasia
Night of the Hunter


Small Man Big Horse

Quote from: David Pielingtonburygrot on November 28, 2018, 11:22:27 AM
I've missed the deadline on this, but in case you have another shit night's sleep, I think these films fulfil your criteria:

Russian Ark
A Field in England
Nosferatu (Herzog)
The Saddest Music in the World
4
Inland Empire
The Wild Blue Yonder
Last Year in Marienbad
Songs From The Second Floor
Upstream Color
Decasia
Night of the Hunter

I've seen A Field in England, Nosferatu (Herzog), Inland Empire and Upstream Color but not the others so thanks for the recommendations, I'll get on to those asap.

LORD BAD VIBE

The Phantom Carriage
Vampyr
Gaslight (1940 UK version)
Went the Day Well?
The Spiral Staircase
Ace in the Hole
Footsteps in the Fog
Hell Drivers
Caltiki, the Immortal Monster
Never Take Sweets From a Stranger
City of the Dead
Cash On Demand
The Day the Earth Caught Fire
Experiment in Terror
It Happened Here
Seconds
Spider Baby
Corruption
The Honeymoon Killers
Punishment Park
Psychomania
Horror Hospital
Deranged
Who Could Kill a Child?
Prey
Dark Night of the Scarecrow
Evilspeak
Rawhead Rex
Spoorloos (The Vanishing)
Society
Session 9
Isolation
Sightseers

Mostly Horror/Sci-fi/Film Noir type stuff.

Swoz_MK

Cafe Flesh. Like a porno Forbidden Zone.

Head Gardener

Night of The Demon - it's even on TV tonight!

prwc

Chameleon Street (1989)
Morgiana (1972)
Ganja & Hess (1973)
The Hourglass Sanitorium (1973)
Rasuto Furankenshutain (1991)
Sundays and Cybèle (1962)
The World's Greatest Sinner (1962)
I Will Walk Like a Crazy Horse (1973)