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Ambient Sheep

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"The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« on: December 13, 2018, 12:29:18 PM »
A rather early heads-up...

BBC4 show, Sunday 23rd December 2018, 21:30 - 22:00.

Further info and even some contributions from people in the know here:
https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2316640/the-secret-story-of-the-bbc-christmas-tapes-on-bbc4

Norton Canes

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Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2018, 01:03:03 PM »
Cheers for the heads-up, Sheepy. DS is asking me to log in, so here's a link to the (probably briefer) description on the Radio Times site for otters who may not have a DS account.


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Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2018, 01:03:52 PM »
Though humans can use it too, it's not just for aquatic mammals.

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Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2018, 01:07:57 PM »
Rhys Thomas directed/compiled this, didn't he?

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Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2018, 01:20:50 PM »
Cheers for the heads-up, Sheepy. DS is asking me to log in, so here's a link to the (probably briefer) description on the Radio Times site for otters who may not have a DS account.

Ummmm, I'm confused, because even when not logged in you can still scroll down past the "Hey there! Welcome to the Digital Spy forums. If you’d like to join in, please sign in or register" prompt (and subsequent advert), to read the actual thread.  At least you can on my phone...

I never knowingly post links that require a login just to read.

The Radio Times listing actually has different info though, so thanks for posting it.

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Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2018, 01:25:00 PM »
Rhys Thomas directed/compiled this, didn't he?

According to that Radio Times listing, yes.

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Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2018, 02:11:02 PM »
Ummmm, I'm confused, because even when not logged in you can still scroll down past the "Hey there! Welcome to the Digital Spy forums. If you’d like to join in, please sign in or register" prompt (and subsequent advert), to read the actual thread.  At least you can on my phone...

I never knowingly post links that require a login just to read.

The Radio Times listing actually has different info though, so thanks for posting it.

It works for me so I'm not sure why it didn't for Norton.

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Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2018, 02:17:07 PM »
Is half an hour enough time?

Norton Canes

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Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2018, 02:25:33 PM »
It works for me so I'm not sure why it didn't for Norton

I think it might be because I'm registered but logged out because I haven't been to the site for a while, so it knows I'm someone with an account rather than a newcomer. Perhaps.   

Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2018, 02:41:21 PM »
I spent years trying to get copies of these, and then was so disappointed with them when I finally watched them.
Not sure what I was expecting, to be honest.

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Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2018, 03:22:49 PM »
'Story'? What's there to know? Michael Aspel made a tit joke once in 1978?

This might be quite fun if it's Rhys Thomas, though.

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Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2018, 03:42:32 PM »
It'll be that rainbow clip again, someone with their bum out and someone else saying fuck in the early 80s.


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Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2018, 04:29:59 PM »
Tom Baker swearing at K9 is apparently part of it. It won't all be stuff that's already on youtube surely?

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Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2018, 04:32:26 PM »
Still no sign of the Christmas tape where Tony Francis gives Anna Soubry a right royal snogging. Don't get your hopes up, that one was Central Television's.

Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2018, 06:26:01 PM »
I will very surprised if this doesn't turn out to be a parody like Rhys Thomas's previous BBC 4 specials.

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Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2018, 06:32:59 PM »
I will very surprised if this doesn't turn out to be a parody like Rhys Thomas's previous BBC 4 specials.

This would be best-case-scenario from my perspective.

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Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2018, 06:39:37 PM »
This would be best-case-scenario from my perspective.

Ditto.

I don't see one of his reviews of the year anywhere in the schedule, so fingers crossed.

Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2018, 07:06:37 PM »
Well Simon Harries is involved who is very interested in archive tv and has made programmes using archives before so I wouldn't be surprised if it is actually about the Christmas tapes.

Rhys Thomas has one of his end of the year things on December 27th on BBC2.

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Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2018, 07:14:47 PM »
Rhys Thomas has one of his end of the year things on December 27th on BBC2.

Ahhh, didn't spot that.  Thanks - I'd have missed it otherwise.

Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2018, 12:21:58 AM »
Nice one, ta.

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Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2018, 02:42:34 AM »
I spent years trying to get copies of these, and then was so disappointed with them when I finally watched them.
Not sure what I was expecting, to be honest.

Which ones did you see?  White Powder Christmas (1978) & Good King Memorex (1979) are pretty good and probably the best ones, but in comparison I found the 1980 & 1981 ones to be massively disappointing, and the two ITV tapes I saw were utterly feeble and embarrassing.

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Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2018, 08:20:40 AM »
A rather early heads-up...

BBC4 show, Sunday 23rd December 2018, 21:30 - 22:00.

Further info and even some contributions from people in the know here:
https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2316640/the-secret-story-of-the-bbc-christmas-tapes-on-bbc4

Parody show or not, thank you for the heads up Sheepy. And season's bleatings to you :)

Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2018, 08:54:06 PM »
Which ones did you see?  White Powder Christmas (1978) & Good King Memorex (1979) are pretty good and probably the best ones, but in comparison I found the 1980 & 1981 ones to be massively disappointing, and the two ITV tapes I saw were utterly feeble and embarrassing.

I think I had them all from 78-84ish.
White Powder Christmas and Good King Memorex are certainly these best (or least bad), but they got rapidly worse.

Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2018, 10:36:27 PM »
Tom Baker swearing at K9 is apparently part of it. It won't all be stuff that's already on youtube surely?

The trouble is that there are millions of these on the tube as it is. All the BBC and millions from ITV and assorted regionals did them even into this millennium. Whole Youtube channels exist for these things.

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Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2018, 10:41:41 PM »
I think I had them all from 78-84ish.
White Powder Christmas and Good King Memorex are certainly these best (or least bad), but they got rapidly worse.

They're kind of fascinating for about ten minutes, but ultimately they're just a bit seedy and depressing.

Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2018, 12:27:06 AM »
Random screen grab from White Powder Christmas:

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Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2018, 02:08:54 PM »
I've been interested in this because I assumed it would be more about the background of TV Centre at the time, and look at who made them and why, how they were shared, etc. If it's really just a collection of the clips themselves with some laughing talking heads, that's a shame.

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Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2018, 02:16:02 PM »
I watched this the other day. It's only half an hour long, but I felt that was enough time to cover an interesting if fairly slight subject. As for the talking heads, they're all people who were actually involved in the making of the tapes, so you do get some insight into the things you mentioned, BH.

Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2018, 09:30:19 AM »
Bit of a cheek to claim that Noel Edmonds/Auntie's Bloomers created a new genre by showing the outtakes on TV in the 80s and 90s, when It'll Be Alright on the Night had been doing it since 1977.

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Re: "The Secret Story of the BBC Christmas Tapes"
« Reply #29 on: December 24, 2018, 09:44:23 AM »
Bit of a cheek to claim that Noel Edmonds/Auntie's Bloomers created a new genre by showing the outtakes on TV in the 80s and 90s, when It'll Be Alright on the Night had been doing it since 1977.

Are there ever any outtakes of Denis Norden saying “Welcome to It’ll Be Alright On The Night 7 *OH BOLLOCKS I GOT THE NUMBER WRONG MAY WE DO IT AGAIN PLEASE*.”

Always got the sense he was somehow a bit aloof from having his own outtakes existing.