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Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #240 on: February 12, 2019, 08:17:39 AM »
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Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #241 on: February 12, 2019, 09:06:03 AM »
Yeah but it's still 15-25 years old. It's like my gggeneration (teenager in the 90's) watching whatever was on TV for teens in the 1970's (apart from BBC DJs). Apart from Top Of The Pops I don't even know what there was.
They were on about Friends on a news site the other day and someone BTL reckoned her 18 year old son watched it on Netflix and hadn't even realised it was old until she told him. Not entirely sure that's believable, although arguably none of them are regularly in the mainstream media enough for the age difference to be too obvious (Aniston's probably the most still-famous but more in women's mags etc.) and after the first few series the clothes and hair aren't too egregiously outdated anyway, particularly given 80s/90s fashion is in now. Most obvious giveaway really is the lack of smartphones.and social media references. An episode from either the last or penultimate series last week was partly based round a Friends Reunited type website, think that's the closest it gets.

“Using a mobile phone to easily escape a predicament” is something that should be in the Normal Things you Never Seen on Screen thread, as a lot of farcical situations and whole bottle episodes are rendered absurdly unbelievable given that pretty much anyone can be contacted at any place and any time now.

So I’m not surprised at youngsters not realising Friends is old due to a lack of mobile phones alone, because sitcom writers were very slow to pick up on ways to write them into their plots, rather than clunkily writing them out to explain why not one single party attended texted Del Boy to tell him that a fancy dress party was now a wake.

I think the first time I became consciously aware of writers building mobiles into scripts in a fun way is the Nether Zone episode of Peep Show, where Mark and Jez get locked in a corridor. The easy thing to do would be to write that they’d run out of charge or, lol, credit, but they turned it into them ordering a pizza delivery which had to be posted slice by slice through the letterbox.

When I was a kid, I’m not sure I realised how old some of the shows I watched were until I was well on my way to my teenage years. Anything black and white, sure, but Thunderbirds being made twenty years before my birth? Piss off, pal.

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Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #242 on: February 12, 2019, 09:19:20 AM »
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Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #243 on: February 12, 2019, 09:25:25 AM »
I remember these were mostly on during the school holidays and at weekends, Champion the Wonder Horse, Flash Gordon, the rocket man guy one and other b&w serials along with classic films. Mark Curry (ginge, specs) used to have a slot on BBC2 (?) for early cinema stuff. We're talking mid 80s here.


Mark Fucking Curry! As a fellow ginge with specs it was impossible to be cool in the 80s while that cunt was on telly. And that other one. Simon Parkin. Wankers.

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Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #244 on: February 12, 2019, 09:26:17 AM »
It's when you speak to people 30+ who don't remember Henrys Cat, Bertha, King Roland or Pudding Lane ... Banacek or Van der Valk ... that you properly start to feel fucking discarded!

I’m 32 and haven’t heard of a single one of those. I thought I knew who Banacek was, but then found out you weren’t talking about the magician, and that the magician’s name isn’t even Banacek.

Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #245 on: February 12, 2019, 10:07:01 AM »
I saw some of an episode of Pointless the other day and in a round about naming Muppets, all of the contestants said they'd never seen a Muppet show or movie so could only put forth the most obvious answers like Kermit and Miss Piggy (which, in case you haven't seen Pointless, is the exact opposite of what they're supposed to do).  I get that Muppets haven't been as culturally ubiquitous as characters like The Simpsons over the past few decades but I'm sure A Muppet Christmas Carol has been on TV every December without fail since the mid '90s.  It turned out those contestants were the obscurest Muppets.

Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #246 on: February 12, 2019, 10:14:12 AM »
Does anyone else remember Hammerman? Whenever I've bought it up in nostalgic discussions nobody remembers it and the premise does seem like something out of a fever dream, yet I've seen proof it exists on youtube.

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Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #247 on: February 12, 2019, 10:14:35 AM »
I was going to say that I don’t know any Muppets other than the obvious ones, but I racked my brain and realised that I actually do. Fozzy Bear, Swampy, Himmler - it’s all coming back to me now.

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Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #248 on: February 12, 2019, 10:15:46 AM »
Does anyone else remember Hammerman? Whenever I've bought it up in nostalgic discussions nobody remembers it and the premise does seem like something out of a fever dream, yet I've seen proof it exists on youtube.

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Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #249 on: February 12, 2019, 10:18:58 AM »
Does anyone else remember Hammerman? Whenever I've bought it up in nostalgic discussions nobody remembers it and the premise does seem like something out of a fever dream, yet I've seen proof it exists on youtube.

The cartoon of MC Hammer? I can remember fuck all else about it other than it existed, but then what else is there to remember? Memorable characters, genuine comedy, a banging theme tune? No idea. Might have been bristling with quality for all I can remember.

Not even convinced I saw it as a sprog rather than just, here I am now, dimly recalling long-ago forays into YouTube..

Does ring a bell but. Magic shoes.


Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #250 on: February 12, 2019, 10:32:49 AM »
I remember it being on Cartoon World, ITV. Would have probably been 91/92.

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Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #251 on: February 12, 2019, 10:38:02 AM »
HAMMER... HAMMER... HAMMERMAN

HE GOT SOME MAGICAL SHOES
HE PUT THEM ON THE GROUND

...something...

Anyway yes, I remember it, though that it ever existed is mental.

Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #252 on: February 12, 2019, 10:42:37 AM »
Does anyone else remember Hammerman? Whenever I've bought it up in nostalgic discussions nobody remembers it and the premise does seem like something out of a fever dream, yet I've seen proof it exists on youtube.

Sure, the main thing I remember was that he had talking sneakers. There seemed to be a lot more celebrity-based cartoons in the '90s. I remember there were different shows with Macauley Culkin, Rick Moranis, Bruce Willis and Louie Anderson all voicing animated versions of themselves. Oh and Martin Short in his 'Ed Grimley' cartoon. Oddly the series based on Roseanne Barr as a child didn't feature her voice at all. It was all great stuff, I'm sure.

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Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #253 on: February 12, 2019, 10:44:53 AM »
Can I just say I do think it’s true and I reckon you must’ve been quite posh.

What, because I watched a lot of television? Brought up on a council estate, mate, chips and beans for tea. Salt of the Earth, me.

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Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #254 on: February 12, 2019, 10:49:04 AM »
Earloier, in fact - I reckon 80/81, and in term time too: there seemed to be an early evening BBC2 slot for oldies, L&H, Chaplin, Harold Lloyd, King Of The Rocket Men (that's the one you're thinking of)...

Yep, up until the early '90s you'd still find old films - mostly comedies - shown at 6pm on BBC Two. I distinctly recall them showing a Jerry Lewis season in that slot in the late '80s.

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Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #255 on: February 12, 2019, 10:49:54 AM »
I do remember it, actually. I think I just assumed it was called HAMMERTIME, which is a better title for a cartoon, though arguably not a horror film about hammer violence.

Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #256 on: February 12, 2019, 11:08:24 AM »
Anyway yes, I remember it, though that it ever existed is mental.

It's easy to forget he was signed to Death Row for a while as well.

Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #257 on: February 12, 2019, 11:08:47 AM »
I’m 32 and haven’t heard of a single one of those. I thought I knew who Banacek was, but then found out you weren’t talking about the magician, and that the magician’s name isn’t even Banacek.

Sorry, there was two autocorrect fuckups in my original post, it was King Rollo and Puddle Lane, maybe that threw you. Puddle lane was great, Neil Innes played a magician in it, telling stories that all started off with him getting you to look into a puddle and then being spirited away. There was a dragon too, it was everything you needed. Bertha was about a machine in a factory that got into scrapes (voiced by Roy Kinnear) and Henry’s Cat was a fat bastard. King Rollo was a child king who couldn’t get to grips with it all. I’m 37 in two months so these would have all been on around 1985-1988 I reckon.

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Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #258 on: February 12, 2019, 11:09:58 AM »
I’m still none the wiser, so I’m just going to assume you’re making stuff up. Did you used to watch Chimney Factory?

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Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #259 on: February 12, 2019, 11:13:39 AM »
I know what you're saying but I don't think that's that surprising. It's a cartoon that finished broadcasting before she was born and was probably not repeated when she was little. It's when you speak to people 30+ who don't remember Henrys Cat, Bertha, King Roland or Pudding Lane that you properly start to feel fucking discarded!

I remember Henry's Cat but none of the others. However, I do remember Aubrey. So I win.

Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #260 on: February 12, 2019, 11:15:48 AM »
Sorry, there was two autocorrect fuckups in my original post, it was King Rollo and Puddle Lane, maybe that threw you. Puddle lane was great, Neil Innes played a magician in it, telling stories that all started off with him getting you to look into a puddle and then being spirited away. There was a dragon too, it was everything you needed. Bertha was about a machine in a factory that got into scrapes (voiced by Roy Kinnear) and Henry’s Cat was a fat bastard. King Rollo was a child king who couldn’t get to grips with it all. I’m 37 in two months so these would have all been on around 1985-1988 I reckon.

Don't worry mate, I remember all of those. Heck, I even remember Neil Innes in " The Book Tower ", and singing the theme to " Raggy Dolls ". Didn't 'Alf take the kid's telly dollar back in the day, did our Neil.

Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #261 on: February 12, 2019, 11:17:12 AM »
I remember Henry's Cat but none of the others. However, I do remember Aubrey. So I win.

Do * you* want to tell the  tale about that Aubrey cartoon that deliberately went silent towards the end, or shall I ?

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Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #262 on: February 12, 2019, 11:19:07 AM »
Do * you* want to tell the  tale about that Aubrey cartoon that deliberately went silent towards the end, or shall I ?

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Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #263 on: February 12, 2019, 11:22:01 AM »
I’m still none the wiser, so I’m just going to assume you’re making stuff up. Did you used to watch Chimney Factory?

Was Vanessa Del Rio in it? If not, no.

Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #264 on: February 12, 2019, 11:25:10 AM »
It's all yours...
I have distinct memories of that Aubrey cartoon deliberately silent towards the end being shown  on two separate occasions, and on each occasion , the continuity announcer apologising for the temporary loss of sound. When this happened on the second occasion, when , the very next day, the continuity announcer continuously announced that day 's Aubrey episode, he gave a  cheeky little statement of "... and this time, I'm going to watch it * very* closely ! " Ho- Ho !
Erm....did you actually used to * watch * Aubrey at the time, Jocko ? I think we'd have been a bit too old for it. I would have been 15, you'd have been about28 16.

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Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #265 on: February 12, 2019, 11:25:33 AM »
Yeah but it's still 15-25 years old. It's like my gggeneration (teenager in the 90's) watching whatever was on TV for teens in the 1970's (apart from BBC DJs). Apart from Top Of The Pops I don't even know what there was.
They were on about Friends on a news site the other day and someone BTL reckoned her 18 year old son watched it on Netflix and hadn't even realised it was old until she told him. Not entirely sure that's believable, although arguably none of them are regularly in the mainstream media enough for the age difference to be too obvious (Aniston's probably the most still-famous but more in women's mags etc.) and after the first few series the clothes and hair aren't too egregiously outdated anyway, particularly given 80s/90s fashion is in now. Most obvious giveaway really is the lack of smartphones.and social media references. An episode from either the last or penultimate series last week was partly based round a Friends Reunited type website, think that's the closest it gets.

The episode where Chandler gets a laptop really dates it.

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Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #266 on: February 12, 2019, 11:26:42 AM »
I lent a friend a film a few years ago and saw him a week or so later and asked if he'd enjoyed it.

"Nah mate, I don't do black and white".

He wasn't taking the piss as I thought he was at first, but he's missing out on a fair bit I reckon (putting it mildly).

I once had a flatmate who didn’t "do" films with subtitles. One time he exclaimed: "I can't watch this, it's in foreign!"

I don't think he was a xenophobe, he was just very lazy and had no attention span, and watching a film while reading words at the same time probably seemed a bit too much like hard work.

I also have no attention span, mind you...

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Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #267 on: February 12, 2019, 11:28:48 AM »
The episode where Chandler gets a laptop really dates it.

Not a much as the one where he says “could you be more of a picaninny?” before donning blackface and grabbing Phoebe by the pussy.

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Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #268 on: February 12, 2019, 11:29:56 AM »
I have distinct memories of that Aubrey cartoon deliberately silent towards the end being shown  on two separate occasions, and on each occasion , the continuity announcer apologising for the temporary loss of sound. When this happened on the second occasion, when , the very next day, the continuity announcer continuously announced that day 's Aubrey episode, he gave a  cheeky little statement of "... and this time, I'm going to watch it * very* closely ! " Ho- Ho !
Erm....did you actually used to * watch * Aubrey at the time, Jocko ? I think we'd have been a bit too old for it. I would have been 15, you'd have been about28 16.

I did. Took my mind off studying and being unsuccessful with girls.

Re: People with massive cultural voids
« Reply #269 on: February 12, 2019, 11:34:43 AM »
I did. Took my mind off studying and being unsuccessful with girls.

Yeah, same here. I remember my unimpressed dad bollocking me for catching me watching it , once. I think he'd have been less angry if I 'd been watching hard-core Porn.
Also used to watch " No. 73" of a Saturday morning when I was at university, but there were perfectly good reasons for this; Frank Sidebottom, Kim Goody being fit as fuck, and Sandi Togsvik inviting us all post- sandwich quiz, to  "go and boogie with the band ", and there used to be some pretty cool bands on there. Can't be sure, but I think Iggy Pop was on there once.