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People with massive cultural voids

Started by George White, December 14, 2018, 08:58:28 PM

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Quote from: Avril Lavigne on February 12, 2019, 10:42:37 AM
Sure, the main thing I remember was that he had talking sneakers. There seemed to be a lot more celebrity-based cartoons in the '90s. I remember there were different shows with Macauley Culkin, Rick Moranis, Bruce Willis and Louie Anderson all voicing animated versions of themselves. Oh and Martin Short in his 'Ed Grimley' cartoon. Oddly the series based on Roseanne Barr as a child didn't feature her voice at all. It was all great stuff, I'm sure.

At that point there was a weird obsession with making cartoons based on cult movies for adults too. Toxic Crusaders, Beetlejuice, Little Shop of Horrors (as you've alluded to), Police Academy, Bill & Ted, Highlander, Conan. Even Ghostbusters and Batman to an extent.

The Beetlejuice one was especially odd because they did a full line of toys to tie in with it that were all clearly modelled after the movie rather than the cartoon.


Lisa Jesusandmarychain

Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on February 12, 2019, 11:35:22 AM
At that point there was a weird obsession with making cartoons based on cult movies for adults too. Toxic Crusaders, Beetlejuice, Little Shop of Horrors (as you've alluded to), Police Academy, Bill & Ted, Highlander, Conan. Even Ghostbusters and Batman to an extent.

The Beetlejuice one was especially odd because they did a full line of toys to tie in with it that were all clearly modelled after the movie rather than the cartoon.
Toxic Revenger was definitely an odd one. They had a cartoon role for that batshit mad woman who played the accordion in that cartoon, too.

Avril Lavigne

Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on February 12, 2019, 11:35:22 AM
At that point there was a weird obsession with making cartoons based on cult movies for adults too. Toxic Crusaders, Beetlejuice, Little Shop of Horrors (as you've alluded to), Police Academy, Bill & Ted, Highlander, Conan. Even Ghostbusters and Batman to an extent.

The Beetlejuice one was especially odd because they did a full line of toys to tie in with it that were all clearly modelled after the movie rather than the cartoon.

For sure, and as a Beetlejuice fan I found it pretty annoying that the cartoon just straight up ignored a major point of the movie and made him and Lydia best friends rather than antagonist & protagonist respectively, while deleting her actual canon ghost friends The Maitlands from existence entirely. It was as if whoever developed it (some guy called Tim Burton) had never seen the movie.

MidnightShambler

Quote from: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on February 12, 2019, 11:37:40 AM
Toxic Revenger was definitely an odd one. They had a cartoon role for that batshit mad woman who played the accordion in that cartoon, too.

Kid N' Play even had one, think it had a brief run on Sky One in the early 90s.

Jockice

Quote from: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on February 12, 2019, 11:34:43 AM
Yeah, same here. I remember my unimpressed dad bollocking me for catching me watching it , once. I think he'd have been less angry if I 'd been watching hard-core Porn.

Reminds me of the legendary argument with my dad when I wanted to watch Mr Ed and he wanted to watch Blockbusters, a programme I despised as it was full of the sort of kids who I wouldn't even acknowledge if I'd been at school with them. Dad was a quiz show fan incidentally, not into teenagers.

Anyway, for once I won and he let me watch Mr Ed, although he stayed in the room. It was an episode in which the talking horse refused to talk until the very end. At which pops turned to me and went: 'I wish he'd done that half an hour ago.''

DrGreggles

Henry's Cat was fucking MINT and SKILL!

Phil_A

Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on February 12, 2019, 11:35:22 AM
At that point there was a weird obsession with making cartoons based on cult movies for adults too. Toxic Crusaders, Beetlejuice, Little Shop of Horrors (as you've alluded to), Police Academy, Bill & Ted, Highlander, Conan. Even Ghostbusters and Batman to an extent.

The Beetlejuice one was especially odd because they did a full line of toys to tie in with it that were all clearly modelled after the movie rather than the cartoon.

There was also Attack Of The Killer Tomatoes, and an Addams Family cartoon that was put out at the same time as the second movie, but was clearly based on the original comic's character designs rather than the actors in the film.

And as has been mentioned elsewhere there was a very short lived cartoon based on Super Dave Osmond.

Paul Calf

Quote from: touchingcloth on February 12, 2019, 11:28:48 AM
Not a much as the one where he says "could you be more of a picaninny?" before donning blackface and grabbing Phoebe by the pussy.

Have they made a new one?

Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on February 12, 2019, 11:35:22 AM
At that point there was a weird obsession with making cartoons based on cult movies for adults too. Toxic Crusaders, Beetlejuice, Little Shop of Horrors (as you've alluded to), Police Academy, Bill & Ted, Highlander, Conan. Even Ghostbusters and Batman to an extent.

The Beetlejuice one was especially odd because they did a full line of toys to tie in with it that were all clearly modelled after the movie rather than the cartoon.

I was thinking the other day how it's a bit weird that Rambo was definitely not a kids film, yet you could buy toy guns that tied in with it.


Avril Lavigne

Quote from: Phil_A on February 12, 2019, 12:09:03 PM
There was also Attack Of The Killer Tomatoes, and an Addams Family cartoon that was put out at the same time as the second movie, but was clearly based on the original comic's character designs rather than the actors in the film.

And as has been mentioned elsewhere there was a very short lived cartoon based on Super Dave Osmond.

And the Aliens cartoon series which I mentioned briefly in the 'Alien 40th Anniversary' thread.  It never got past the pilot stage which was odd because they still went ahead and produced a successful, long-running line of action figures and other merchandise directly based on it, which is why none of the figures of human characters looked anything like they did in the movie.



Bishop there with his iconic Bono shades and metal mutton chops.

Small Man Big Horse

Quote from: solidified gruel merchant on February 11, 2019, 07:38:50 PM
Fair enough but I don't think it was true of the average ten year old in the mid eighties. The only black and white films I'd watch were ones with monsters and dinosaurs in, but even that was seen as a bit cerebral amongst my peers. And I grew up in a fairly middle class area. Which was nice.

Ah, for me this was the late seventies / early eighties from when I was about 4 - 7, before there was Channel Four and we owned a video (or a computer for that matter), so you either had the choice of watching the news on BBC1 and ITV or Harold Lloyd and various other b/w stuff on BBC2. I mean I suppose I could have just not watched tv and done something else, but at that age I was addicted to the old telly box.

Quote from: Avril Lavigne on February 12, 2019, 10:07:01 AM
I saw some of an episode of Pointless the other day and in a round about naming Muppets, all of the contestants said they'd never seen a Muppet show or movie so could only put forth the most obvious answers like Kermit and Miss Piggy (which, in case you haven't seen Pointless, is the exact opposite of what they're supposed to do).  I get that Muppets haven't been as culturally ubiquitous as characters like The Simpsons over the past few decades but I'm sure A Muppet Christmas Carol has been on TV every December without fail since the mid '90s.  It turned out those contestants were the obscurest Muppets.

That's just weird, the two Muppet movies released in 2011 and 2014 did a lot of money box office wise (the first especially) and okay, the short lived tv series they led to was a flop and I'm not sure if it was shown over here but they've never exactly gone away since then, and the two gigs at the o2 last year were big news at the time.

Quote from: Blue Jam on February 12, 2019, 11:26:42 AM
I once had a flatmate who didn't "do" films with subtitles. One time he exclaimed: "I can't watch this, it's in foreign!"

I don't think he was a xenophobe, he was just very lazy and had no attention span, and watching a film while reading words at the same time probably seemed a bit too much like hard work.

I also have no attention span, mind you...

I know a lot of people who don't do subtitled films unfortunately, back in my twenties a friend and I tricked his brother in to seeing one (Toto The Hero) at the cinema and when the subtitles first appeared on the screen he loudly shouted "Fucking hell" much to the horror of the arthouse audience. He loved it though, which was something at least.

Ballad of Ballard Berkley

Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on February 12, 2019, 12:48:47 PM
I was thinking the other day how it's a bit weird that Rambo was definitely not a kids film, yet you could buy toy guns that tied in with it.

There was a Saturday morning Rambo cartoon series too. As you might expect, the cartoon Rambo was depicted as a wholesome all-American hero as opposed to a trained killing machine and Vietnam veteran with PTSD.

olliebean

Quote from: Small Man Big Horse on February 12, 2019, 03:49:54 PMI know a lot of people who don't do subtitled films unfortunately, back in my twenties a friend and I tricked his brother in to seeing one (Toto The Hero) at the cinema and when the subtitles first appeared on the screen he loudly shouted "Fucking hell" much to the horror of the arthouse audience. He loved it though, which was something at least.

I think part of the problem here is that trailers for foreign films in the English speaking market tend to be constructed to avoid featuring any spoken dialogue, presumably in the hopes of tricking people who don't like subtitles into going anyway.

Actually way too many film trailers in general seem to be aimed at tricking people who probably aren't going to enjoy the film into thinking they will.

Quote from: Jockice on February 11, 2019, 12:59:42 PM
Cue my anecdote about a young lady from work telling me she was into Cream. Bloody hell, liking Eric Clapton at that age etc. Turned out that (wait for it) it wasn't actually that Cream!!!!!!

Similarly I was talking to a much younger colleague who mentioned she was into scat. I found that a bit surprising, assuming she was talking about the improvised, nonsense jazz singing, but she laughingly explained that she didn't know what that means and that she was sexually aroused by shit. Boy, was my face red!

St_Eddie


Icehaven

Not exactly a cultural void but my cousin has never seen Family Guy. This might not seem particularly odd and I'm sure plenty of people would think it's advisable, but I just don't get how he of all people has managed to swerve it completely for the last 20 years, as he'd absolutely love it, He's 40, watches plenty of TV, is a fairly stereotypical borderline Gary-ish type who likes a drink and a laff and smutty humour in general. I only discovered he'd never seen it at a barbecue at the weekend when he was needling his his nephew to show us his impression of Herbert the Pervert and falling about laughing at it, but then said he didn't even know who Herbert the Pervert was. Ironically it was a bit like that bit in FG when they find out Quagmire doesn't know what internet pron is.

DrGreggles

Ooh, forgot this thread existed.

Anyway, I mentioned at work a couple of weeks back that I was off to the Edinburgh Fringe and a lad (early 20's) said he'd never heard of it.
So I began to explain what the Fringe and it turned out he meant that he'd never heard of Edinburgh.

touchingcloth

Is it a cultural void to have no awareness of what goes on on twitter? It's not, of course, but humour me.

I was listening to a podcast the other day where someone spoke about someone going missing. Someone else said "missing how?" and they said "oh, not like Stephen Fry or anything, they just don't show their face in public that much".

I made a face to my other half and asked if Stephen Fry famously disappeared once, and she said "oh, he does it all the time. On twitter."

How has that become a reference point? Stephen Fry who frequently temporarily leaves an online cesspit is analogous to an actual missing/disappeared person? This planet is fucking AIDS.

paruses

I assume the podcast person was referring to the time he walked out of a production and "had been spotted on a ferry to Belgium" - in the words of Hugh Laurie (or roughly those words).

Icehaven

Quote from: touchingcloth on August 20, 2019, 03:33:17 PM

I made a face to my other half and asked if Stephen Fry famously disappeared once, and she said "oh, he does it all the time. On twitter."


Nah I think she's got that wrong, it's this;

Quote from: paruses on August 20, 2019, 03:39:15 PM
I assume the podcast person was referring to the time he walked out of a production and "had been spotted on a ferry to Belgium" - in the words of Hugh Laurie (or roughly those words).

He actually disappeared as in ran away for a few days as the production had had bad reviews, and there were concerns that he'd killed himself but he'd just gone into hiding in Belgium for a while.
That said, it was back in 1995 though, so I might be wrong and it might be that the podcast person did mean more recently and just on social media.

Cuellar

Haha! Now it is YOU, touchingcloth, who has been revealed as having a massive cultural void!!!

paruses

Quote from: Cuellar on August 20, 2019, 03:47:08 PM
Haha! Now it is YOU, touchingcloth, who has been revealed as having a massive cultural void!!!


Quote from: icehaven on August 20, 2019, 03:46:30 PM
Nah I think she's got that wrong, it's this;

He actually disappeared as in ran away for a few days as the production had had bad reviews, and there were concerns that he'd killed himself but he'd just gone into hiding in Belgium for a while.
That said, it was back in 1995 though, so I might be wrong and it might be that the podcast person did mean more recently and just on social media.

Bear all of this in mind when you go home tonight and beat your tea out of her.

touchingcloth

It could be my own void, aye, and maybe it was meant in the Richey Edwards sense rather than the twitter one. I've beaten my wife in search of deeper answers.

Ian Drunken Smurf


H-O-W-L

Quote from: Avril Lavigne on February 12, 2019, 11:50:39 AM
For sure, and as a Beetlejuice fan I found it pretty annoying that the cartoon just straight up ignored a major point of the movie and made him and Lydia best friends rather than antagonist & protagonist respectively, while deleting her actual canon ghost friends The Maitlands from existence entirely. It was as if whoever developed it (some guy called Tim Burton) had never seen the movie.

The Beetlejuice cartoon is even more fucked if you've seen the first draft of the film script, where Betelgeuse explicitly wants to rape Lydia.

kalowski

Quote from: Alberon on December 15, 2018, 10:45:01 AM
While I'm going to hit 50 next year I still have my alarm clock tuned to Radio 1 in a desperate attempt to still feel I'm hip. Some of the evening shows are still good, though the daytime output is, of course, autotuned noise designed for phones, not anything with a decent speaker.

So I had heard of George Ezra, though hadn't a clue what he looked like. I've also heard Shotgun before and despite it being mostly one line repeated over and over it is less offensively poor than most of the daytime output.
Crikey, Alberon, Radio 1? That would drain my soul.

JesusAndYourBush

Quote from: icehaven on August 20, 2019, 11:38:19 AM
Not exactly a cultural void but my cousin has never seen Family Guy.

Often I go years without seeing a TV show.  For example I don't think I saw Family Guy until around 2012, although before that I'd read enough to have recognised the characters. if someone had asked me

I don't actively avoid shows, the ones I don't see are just never on during the times I'm watching TV, or I'm watching something else when they're on, meaning I'd have to actively seek them out by changing my usual plans, and I don't care that much, they're only TV shows.  It doesn't bother me, a show will always be there if I want to watch it at some later date.

Ballad of Ballard Berkley

Quote from: touchingcloth on August 20, 2019, 05:04:59 PM
It could be my own void, aye,

It definitely is. Stephen Fry literally going missing is a famous incident.

touchingcloth

Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on August 21, 2019, 07:19:41 AM
It definitely is. Stephen Fry literally going missing is a famous incident.

Well I don't feel too bad about not knowing that part of his life given that I've read all of the volumes of his autobiography. Plus he owes me a bit of a void for having read through The Hippopotamus.