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What FF games are worth playing after FFVII?

Started by The Boston Crab, December 19, 2018, 06:25:51 PM

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Come on. I played a few hours of 8, not good enough. That was the end of the line til XV which is one of the worst games ever made apart from the graphics and food porn. I hear some of the ones in between are great. Which ones, please?


My bro says Ten and Twelve, I think, but I can never remember because they're just numbers.

thraxx

8 is not that bad, but it suffers coming after 7. The only other one worth playing is 10. I know that people go on about 9 but the story and gameplay are for bairns.

Twed

9 is good.

I have a really petty requirement for FF games, and it's that they don't look like Saved By The Bell: The College Years. It's not like I'm playing them for their gameplay, so the aesthetics really have to be just right.

NoSleep

XII is my favourite (above even FFVII). I especially like that it is set in Ivalice (like Vagrant Story and FF Tactics). The combat system is very good, allowing you to program your team, using increasingly complex AI, so that they automatically back you up, attack, heal, whatever.

X is good, too.

St_Eddie

Final Fantasy IX is definitely a good 'un (second only to VII in my opinion).  Some of the character designs are a bit weird/gross but it's got a great atmosphere, a decent abilities system (none of that horrid junctioning/drawing from VIII), a fun yarn and a killer soundtrack.

10 out of 10 - Best game ever made (aside from Final Fantasy VII).

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Final Fantasy VI is likely the best of the games, prior to VII.  There's some horribly tedious grinding involved though.

10 out of 10 - Best game ever made (aside from Tiddlywinks).

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Final Fantasy X is an irritating festival of twats and the point where I gave up on the series.

10 out of 10 - Best game ever made (aside from literally every other game ever made, especially Final Fantasy VII and Tiddlywinks).

Z

No clue if X holds up at all but I liked it an awful lot around the time. Played IV around the same time and it was my favourite of the lot, doubt it holds up. VI is solid.

Maybe Bravely Default? It felt way more like an FF game than the more recent iterations of FF

Tactics and Tactics Advance are a different thing but good too



Not a fan of IX myself, it was a refreshing change from VIII but it dragged like hell for me.. think I was more invested in VIII's story even, tbh

Twed


St_Eddie

Quote from: Twed on December 19, 2018, 07:00:18 PM
Can you please review every game?

As long as I can simply describe every game as 'an irritating festival of twats', then yes.  Yes, I can.

Consignia


madhair60

7, 9, 12, Chocobo Mystery Dungeon and Theatrhythm. The entire rest of the series is awful.

Cloud

Everyone has a different opinion of FFs.

VII and X were my favourites, but I quite enjoyed VIII (ignoring the draw system thing).  Hated XII, I guess because that's when things changed.  XIII was alright.  Couldn't be arsed with the follow-ups and got bored of XV.

Thanks, I counted up the votes and it's 9 then 10 then 12. I think I'll just watch some LPs this evening because I'm ill. Cheers, gents.

Thursday

#12
Yeah I like 9, I feel like it's one you could go either way with. I don't think it's the most mechanically interesting Final Fantasy, but I think it's the most heartfelt, it's the last one a lot of the old school team worked on I think, and it feels that way. The last one before all the wanky emo Tetsuya Nomura elements enveloped the series.

I'm all about the dialogue and music and earnest cheese with JRPGs. Sounds right up my street. Cheers.

Sin Agog

Still have the fondest memories of Dragon Quest V (the one with the wives).  The purest, least fatty fantasy they ever did.  If you're not into sprites, though, DQ8 might be worth looking into for a decent follow up to FFVII.  It's about on a par with FFIX.


Cloud

Somehow forgot to mention  IX when  going through them, loved that one.   Not as much as VII and X, but close.  Indeed it was very much  the last hoorah of the classic FF, though XII was kind of classic style but with MMORPG kind of gameplay.

Sin Agog

Replayed FFX a couple of months ago.  Yeah, started the linear pattern of the others, and Tidus' "This is my story" mantra must have fucked off everyone around him, but it is a pretty good game.  The floaty cut-scenes with the out of sync dialogue didn't bother me at all, and I did shed a few in that snoggy tree pond sequence.  Plus it's got the voice of Bender in a major part!  There's a series on Netflix about a guy who bonds with his taciturn, retired dad by getting him into FF Online, and it's surprisingly not shite at all. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6497076/

Mister Six

FF9 was the last one in the series I really enjoyed, although I know it's seen as a minor entry. FF1O seemed to begin the trend of having absurdly long intros in which the story goes nowhere and gameplay elements are drip-fed to the player. I ducked out without even getting through all the shrines and didn't come back until I got a review copy of FF13, which I hesitate to even call a game really. After 13 hours of that, and only just reaching the point where I had access to guardian forces and enough combat options to really as gameplay, I fucked the whole series right off.

St_Eddie

Quote from: Mister Six on December 19, 2018, 11:01:13 PM
...I got a review copy of FF13, which I hesitate to even call a game really.

Yep, it's appallingly bad.  The "game" essentially plays itself, instead choosing to focus on the story.  Which would be alright, I suppose, if only the story wasn't the worst atrocity ever conceived by a human being and executed in a way which dethrones the conception itself of its status as the worst atrocity ever conceived by a human being.

10 out of 10 - Best game ever conceived by a human being.

The Culture Bunker

I doubt I've really enjoyed a FF game since VIII, which I wouldn't mind going back to sometime (if I could find the lead to connect my PS1 to my tele). IX didn't do a lot for me, and at the time I considered the setting pretty dull after VII and VIII.

X was fine, I guess. But XIII was an atrocity and I didn't really find much to shout about in XV either. Boring characters going through stories I fail to give a shit about.

VII I must have played through about five times over the years, VI is the other I'd certainly like to revisit at some point.

Z

Quote from: The Boston Crab on December 19, 2018, 09:08:59 PM
I'm all about the dialogue and music and earnest cheese with JRPGs. Sounds right up my street. Cheers.
I'd be inclined to double down on Bravely Default then, ymmv though

Thursday

The main thing that annoys me about final fantasy 13 is that what I'd imagined it would be from reading early previews was so much better than whatever they actually came up with. I thought it'd be about this floating island world where the poor people live and the planet above where all the rich people lived, and basically the plot tension builds from that concept.

And "fal'Cie" and " l'Cie" are the worst most unwieldy words ever conceived in all of Fiction. The just sound so horrible in the mouth.

Sin Agog

Wouldn't be surprised if FFXIII began life as a mobile game.

brat-sampson

Always sad when people ignore 14 for being an MMO, even when it's pretty justified. The story going into the expansions is one of the best they've ever told, the music is sublime and it's basically the best/'truest'  FF content they've put out since 12.

aving said that, it's like a 50+ hour game before you hit the expansions and if you skip that you end up with no clue how to play or what's going on.

I'm very glad I devoted a summer to it, really enjoyed Storm blood, keep meaning to return and catch up with the patch content and am 100% in when Shadowbringer drops next summer. But yeah, I get it.

madhair60

I quite liked the few hours I played of XIII because you just run forward along a corridor and won all the battles by mashing X. That saved a lot of time.


Chairman Yang

The best Final Fantasy game is X-2: it's got fanservice, dressing women up in skimpy clothes, homoerotic minigames... presumably has other features. It's like the lighthearted parts of FFXV except there's a really good progress/battle system in there.

It'd be interesting to see if it works at all if you haven't suffered through X first.

Cloud

Quote from: Chairman Yang on December 20, 2018, 08:37:43 AM
The best Final Fantasy game is X-2: it's got fanservice, dressing women up in skimpy clothes, homoerotic minigames... presumably has other features. It's like the lighthearted parts of FFXV except there's a really good progress/battle system in there.

It'd be interesting to see if it works at all if you haven't suffered through X first.

Plus it's got its fair share of cousin romance.

Yeah I love X-2, it's a nice lighthearted game which is a breath of fresh air between main FF games.   And job system :D

madhair60