Is Theresa May still in charge? Brexit Discussion Thread Four

[biggytitbo]

The Labour Party was built by trade unions, you know, the ones you think should shut up and grow up and never take industrial action. The ones the US corporations you love so would see an end to. Stop fucking pretending.

It's fun to invent things in your mind and then take a position against them isn't it?

[Zetetic]

The Occupation section of the HoC Social background of Members of Parliament 1979-2017 is worth a read.

This does need more context - we'd expect the number of people drawing from 'manual workers' (including 'miners') to decline in part in line with the changing econo-demographics of the country. (Similarly education?)

But such MPs been replaced with people from 'business' and 'political organising' it seems (which would include people whose careers has overwhelmingly been working for a union, I'd guess, however - not just think tanks or the parties; Corbyn?).



How self-identification as 'working-class' interacts with actual professions (and professed beliefs) is also interesting.

Although just 25% of people now work in routine and manual occupations, 60% of Britons regard themselves as working class...

While 63% of middle-class identifiers in managerial and professional jobs reported that they are pro-immigration, for example, that percentage falls to just 38% in the same occupational category for those who identify as working class.

...

According to Ipsos Mori, 45.8% of household heads are in the manual worker or lower-paid social grade bracket known as C2DE..

[jobotic]

It's fun to invent things in your mind and then take a position against them isn't it?

You tell me? Remember when I was a Nazi according to you?

[solidified gruel merchant]

So Biggy can say that Caroline Lucas isn't left wing enough, but that it's completely outrageous for Labour MPs to be saying Jeremy Corbyn is too left wing. In the same paragraph. Irony truly is dead.

I think he can say that actually without it being at all ironic. Unless he's a member of the Green Party. Then, at a stretch, maybe. Actually, no. Even then it just doesn't work.

[Zetetic]

It's worth bearing in mind as well, that while these things about representation and class (and other aspects of identity tied up with Britain's dead towns and ever-globbing-up cities, and education and age) are important for explaining some of the Leave vote and disenchantment with major parties, you don't get to 52% without an awful lot of quite well-off people.

[solidified gruel merchant]

You tell me? Remember when I was a Nazi according to you?

That clearly offended you.
I can remember when biggy was a racist, a xenophobe, a mad conspiracist, a murdoch loving right wing shit bag, a stupid cunt, a thick cunt, a lying cunt, a mad cunt, an evil genius who pulls the wings off butterflies for a laugh, a nazi defender, a nazi denier, a nazi wannabe, a nazi.
etc etc

[Johnny Yesno]

She's also spent a lot of her time lazily joining in with the fake smear campaigns, such as anti semitism. I take it you're aware of this as you're clearly such a fan of hers.

Has she? Links please.

I can remember when biggy was a racist, a xenophobe, a mad conspiracist, a murdoch loving right wing shit bag, a stupid cunt, a thick cunt, a lying cunt, a mad cunt, an evil genius who pulls the wings off butterflies for a laugh, a nazi defender, a nazi denier, a nazi wannabe, a nazi.
etc etc

Good. I thought it was just me that could remember.

[jobotic]

Tan tan tataa!

Te you what, if you want to take lectures on what makes a good socialist from someone who thinks austerity was a good thing because we'd maxed out our credit card and he was alright anyway be my guest.

[phantom_power]

That clearly offended you.
I can remember when biggy was a racist, a xenophobe, a mad conspiracist, a murdoch loving right wing shit bag, a stupid cunt, a thick cunt, a lying cunt, a mad cunt, an evil genius who pulls the wings off butterflies for a laugh, a nazi defender, a nazi denier, a nazi wannabe, a nazi.
etc etc

That's not remembering. That's observing

I jest of course

[solidified gruel merchant]

Has she? Links please.

[JamesMcGrory]

But what's actually wrong with Caroline Lucas?

Nothing! Her continued efforts to destroy our ecology are pure joy to behold. Caroline Lucas has encouraged millions of people to consume at UK levels, she's brilliant.
Rather than people remaining in warm, empty, cheap, low consuming regions, and maintaining sustainable levels of consumption, Caroline Lucas champions their move to cold, carbon munching, resource sapping SE England. She's an earth assassin.
This alone would earn my undying support, but allied with the fact she purports to be 'green' - my admiration for her, unlike my planet, is undying. Brilliant!

[Paul Calf]

As long as they have been to oxbridge or ended up in politics straight from university via think tanks and policy units.


I mean, look how many politicians took literally the same course at the same university, it's absolutely mind boggling - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_University_of_Oxford_people_with_PPE_degrees

48% of British people took PPE at Oxford?

[Johnny Yesno]

So she hasn't 'spent a lot of her time lazily joining in with the fake smear campaigns, such as anti semitism', then. I thought not.

[Mrs Wogans lemon drizzle]

I would like to see Vince Cable hand over the leaderships of the Lib Dems to Layla Moran.  She's my local MP and she's a a superb MP and human being, not very often you get that combo.  I think she would make for a great leader.

I'd like to see Moran lead a party hoovering up people disillusioned by the ineptitude of May and Corbyn.

May's miscalculation in pursuing a hard brexit in order to pander to her party's right wing has led us to this ridiculous position we now find ourselves in.  This has been compounded by Labour's "deniable ambiguity".  Labour playing party politics with Brexit is contemptible.

[solidified gruel merchant]

So she hasn't 'spent a lot of her time lazily joining in with the fake smear campaigns, such as anti semitism', then. I thought not.

Pay attention or do your own research.

[DrGreggles]

It's fun to invent things in your mind

And then claim to have "misread" it...

[Johnny Yesno]

Pay attention or do your own research.

No. Support your accusations or fuck off.

[solidified gruel merchant]

No. Support your accusations or fuck off.

Haha. We're not in a court of law, and my accusation stands.

[Buelligan]

It's just some bollocks Johnny, don't bother, he's not worth it.

I would like to see Vince Cable hand over the leaderships of the Lib Dems to Layla Moran.  She's my local MP and she's a a superb MP and human being, not very often you get that combo.  I think she would make for a great leader.

I'd like to see Moran lead a party hoovering up people disillusioned by the ineptitude of May and Corbyn.

May's miscalculation in pursuing a hard brexit in order to pander to her party's right wing has led us to this ridiculous position we now find ourselves in.  This has been compounded by Labour's "deniable ambiguity".  Labour playing party politics with Brexit is contemptible.

I thought Kate Green was your MP, have you moved?

[Paul Calf]

I would like to see Vince Cable hand over the leaderships of the Lib Dems to Layla Moran.  She's my local MP and she's a a superb MP and human being, not very often you get that combo.  I think she would make for a great leader.

I'd like to see Moran lead a party hoovering up people disillusioned by the ineptitude of May and Corbyn.

May's miscalculation in pursuing a hard brexit in order to pander to her party's right wing has led us to this ridiculous position we now find ourselves in.  This has been compounded by Labour's "deniable ambiguity".  Labour playing party politics with Brexit is contemptible.

Oxford and Abingdon, eh? Man of the people here.

[JamesMcGrory]

No. Support your accusations or fuck off.

This is genius. It's precisely the level of gammon-speak we need at Gaping Britain. Coupled with your support for Caroline Lucas, herself a disciple of Koch Bros migration (lack of) policy - there's few (this means no) greater humanitarian, progressive, revolutionary siblings on my decaying earth than the Koch Bros - propels me to re-extend my invitation. Allied with the airy augmentation of your beyond adequate reply in the face of a request for actual evidence in support of anything you've written, well, I almost felt like offering you EU enforced rates of minimum wage in a bid to encourage you sign.

Would you like to work for Gaping Britain?

[Konki]

Who the fuck is Gaping Britain?

[phantom_power]

Who the fuck is Gaping Britain?

It's a bit. Just go with it. It is hilarious I assure you, and he is owning all us reMOANer snowflakes so watch out

[Mrs Wogans lemon drizzle]

It's just some bollocks Johnny, don't bother, he's not worth it.

I thought Kate Green was your MP, have you moved?

Nah, lived here for years.

[mothman]

Yes, if he owns us anymore, we're going to have to start looking into underground railways.

[Phil_A]

Gaping Britain? Should we be preparing for the arrival of CLOWNE?

[JamesMcGrory]

Who the fuck is Gaping Britain?

Flattered by the individualisation. But I don't work alone. My Latvian cleaner deserves some credit. She's left her beloved homeland to work for me at Gaping Britain. I display my appreciation by paying her only slightly below the Latvian minimum wage. She lives with her mop, beneath one of my garages, in a flat-pack galvanised steel wardrobe she carried back from Aldi. The moment I remove my Churchill brogue from her throat she spews forth "I leeving da dreem Mr James". That's Mr James sir. She'll learn.

We're a proudly cancerous anti-democracy movement intent on removing meaningful suffrage from the thick racist poor and working class. We spearhead the New Enlightenment.

Gaping Britain (formerly known as Open Britain - that name was democratically decided to be lacking sufficient inclusivity. I say "democratically", by that I mean I said so) is a wondrously kaleidoscopic organisation whose main purpose is to rewrite recent history because people got it wrong. No one wants to focus on their mistakes. We're here to help. Instead of valuing facts, evidence, or the individuality of unique human experience, we promote what really matters, our own loving lies. We're essentially parental figures for a gammon heavy world. We decide whether Santa exists or not. Any resistance and we remove your 'present' - the right, once in your lifetime, to a meaningful political choice. We gaslight the nation (only the bad bits, we essentially operate in areas where the average house price is below £380K) - forcefully reminding people that anything they see, hear or otherwise experience, unless it promotes a globalist world view in their hearts - most lack anything you (i hope) or I (definitely) would recognise as a mind - is false. We're a national correctional facility for crimes against a finance and corporate centric world view. If you're prepared to work in East Anglia there are opportunities for fast tracking.

[garnish]

Dunno this is really good

[Sebastian Cobb]

Some info on trade deals with the us.

https://twitter.com/DavidHenigUK/status/1084070653496623106

All going really well!!

[Paulie Walnuts]

sooo, calling someone a facist or a nazi can now get you arrested

the next momentum march or Farage public appearance could be fun

think i might report johnny yesno to my local gestapo