Author Topic: Becoming more right wing as you age  (Read 12144 times)

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Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #420 on: January 11, 2019, 03:37:59 PM »
I'd eat a cat's hands, the scratchy little fuckers.

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Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #421 on: January 11, 2019, 03:40:18 PM »
I don’t mean to take the piss, but I do think the idea of working in a restaurant where the bin is full of hooves inherently funny. Is it a restaurant near a race track or glue factory?

I know what you mean, but the combination of back and forth has really painted a mental image.

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Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #422 on: January 11, 2019, 03:59:05 PM »
I don’t mean to take the piss, but I do think the idea of working in a restaurant where the bin is full of hooves inherently funny. Is it a restaurant near a race track or glue factory?

I know what you mean, but the combination of back and forth has really painted a mental image.
I get it. I've often thought the same about a bin full of duck's beaks. It would make a clacking sound if you jostled it.

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Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #423 on: January 11, 2019, 04:11:21 PM »
Even Hitler got more right-wing.  Didn't the initial Nazi programme only want to deport the more recently-immigrated Jews?

Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #424 on: January 11, 2019, 06:22:23 PM »
I'd eat a cat's hands, the scratchy little fuckers.

Well, this gives me " paws " for thought !!!!!!!!!!!!
( Third fucking brilliant contribution ! : ) )

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Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #425 on: January 11, 2019, 06:32:27 PM »
One could argue that it would be better for the planet if we abandoned this wasteful research and just accepted the ageing process and its associated diseases...

Or that an obsession with prophylaxis (regardless of the prior credibility of achieving it any time soon) has increasingly distracted from actually providing the care required for people who are already old, poor and suffering from the consequent combination of personal conditions and social conditions.



Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #426 on: January 11, 2019, 06:35:19 PM »
If we used more prophylaxis there'd be less suffering.

Fact.

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Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #427 on: January 11, 2019, 06:37:59 PM »
How much prophylaxis do you use?

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« Reply #428 on: January 11, 2019, 06:43:47 PM »
7

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Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #429 on: January 11, 2019, 07:22:33 PM »


(weirdly it was the first episode of Wonder Showzen that made me a full vegetarian. I'd thought about it before, but the 'beat kids' segment in the butchery and the kids commenting what's happening in the sausage factory were the last straw. the power of comedy I guess)

Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #430 on: January 11, 2019, 09:47:06 PM »
Why not just test drugs on old people anyway? They're too feeble to stop you.

Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #431 on: January 12, 2019, 12:32:03 AM »
Chimed in on a Facebook comment thread that was posted in relation to a previous deleted thread where one commenter said something "a bit questionable" (and the OP, not the same person, decided to nip the subsequent arguing in the bud by deleting the thread)

In the new thread the questionable comment was 'called out' by someone as an example of how the person was a pedo, with a link to her timeline where'd posted screenshots from the thread (from a closed group) publicly calling him a pedo.

My contribution was that the evidence was on rather shaky ground based on the screenshots.  It was a bit open to interpretation and posted without context, and whilst a rather disturbing comment that ehhhh is sort of 60-70% dodgy, I worry about making claims that someone is a criminal without more solid (like closer to 100%) evidence than that.

In hindsight a stupid idea to wade in in the first place, I just don't like witch hunts.

Said person has now added a screenshot of my comment to The List of condemned comments, without comment, but presumably under the pre-existing category she mentioned of "pedo sympathiser".  Go figure.  I await the mob...
The full comment was posted, which is good, rather than editing context out of it.  I was quite clear that it's not about defending the guy but suggesting that, even if just for a better result from the Facebook Abuse Team, clarification is sought from the alleged offender on their questionable comment.

None of this endears me towards... well I'd say the left here.  It used to be the Daily Mail  types who pulled all  this Paedogeddon kind of shit, but now the purple hair brigade have long taken over.  The outrage and public shaming olympics are really disturbing stuff :/

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Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #432 on: January 12, 2019, 03:46:10 PM »
So you've seen so many examples of pedo hunting by the left that you're able to typify them?

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Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #433 on: January 12, 2019, 07:02:03 PM »
I like paedos, but I couldn’t hunt a whole one.

Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #434 on: January 12, 2019, 07:12:11 PM »
So you've seen so many examples of pedo hunting by the left that you're able to typify them?

Not specifically no, and not "the left" per se but that hardline keyboard warrior type - but the witch hunting is rife on social media, seen plenty of it and people taking quite some glee in convincing someone's employer to fire them or getting the baying internet mob hounding them.

(I'm aware this conversation leads to the "well I've not personally seen it unless you find and post some arbitrary number of examples, which I'll then say is either not enough or pick apart and say they deserved it, and therefore it's not true" argument... can't be arsed)

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Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #435 on: January 13, 2019, 09:00:42 AM »
Not specifically no, and not "the left" per se but that hardline keyboard warrior type

Hardline keyboard warrior types come from across the political spectrum. It's not typically lefty to have purple hair any more either. Unless they're talking about the redistribution of wealth or taking control of the means of production while they're hiding in a bush outside a paediatrician's house, I wouldn't assume they are left wing.

Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #436 on: January 13, 2019, 09:38:14 AM »
I assume they meant people who proclaim they are left wing, rather than necessarily are left wing.

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« Reply #437 on: January 13, 2019, 10:56:36 AM »
I'm wondering how much both the increase in right-wingery and/or the belief in hostile/OTT/SWP world out there via the media.

I mean I hear people say "the left is intolerant" or "the left is as bad as the right" quite often.  I wonder if people that say this are aware of how that narrative has been pushed by right media, and if so, do you think it simply coincidence.

This isn't say "people" don't act like idiots and use any available weapon but it is not really representative of left economics is it.

I've noticed a lot of advertising using leftist parodies now to appeal to the anger circuits in right-wingers...........yet they so blissfully believe they are ones not being brainwashed.

Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #438 on: January 13, 2019, 01:22:48 PM »
See how easy it is to split into tribes, and how useless it is to have just "left" and "right" when there's a difference between left and right wing economics and social liberalism vs conservatism?  But +1 internet point for caring about it when there's an opportunity to say "aha!  I don't see all feminists wanting to seize the means of production! Gotcha!"

Indeed, there are witch hunts, trial by social media and keyboard warriors in both tribes.  I don't think the existence of it on one side invalidates talking about it being a problem on the other, as feminists often point out when people do the "but what about women who do the same bad thing to men?" thing.

Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #439 on: January 13, 2019, 03:00:55 PM »
See how easy it is to split into tribes, and how useless it is to have just "left" and "right" when there's a difference between left and right wing economics and social liberalism vs conservatism?  But +1 internet point for caring about it when there's an opportunity to say "aha!  I don't see all feminists wanting to seize the means of production! Gotcha!"

Indeed, there are witch hunts, trial by social media and keyboard warriors in both tribes.  I don't think the existence of it on one side invalidates talking about it being a problem on the other, as feminists often point out when people do the "but what about women who do the same bad thing to men?" thing.

I'm not clear on what you are saying here?

The string em' up, hangin is too good for them is very much a right-wing trope for the peados. I don't believe you have identified the right tribe in the first place.

Again not sure what I am getting an internet point from, I "care" about the plights of individuals and groups in the context they occur in, and I subscribe to socialist economics as the best means in which people can exist with the least possible level of conflict (via the controlled absence of necessity).

Feminism, as I would understand it is about the emancipation of women from the oppressive historical and current societal set-up and not about some purple haired internet entity calling you a paedo sympathiser. 

How the struggle for left-wing and right-wing economics plays out in the world is not "the same" and there is no equivalence (this a complete mental scourge of our age) they are fundamentally different.  That is the point.

On an individual level (like your purple haired person? I really am unclear as to why you are going on about "making tribes" when you evoke this stuff) a right-wing bigot that thinks non-whites, gays and women should be at least repressed is in the historical compendium of right-wingism but the historical compendium of the left is not a mirror of this is it? No it is about how class is created by powerful people through environmental conditions they impose on the world - it says look at this shit, its not good.

I'm saying the latest iteration of this the reheating of the old idea of the "left" being behind every atrocity, the enemy within etc....is being pushed andd is unthinkingly being taken up by people (perhaps yourself)....why is the purple haired one anything other than a person with a serious chip on their shoulder about paedos (perhaps they have suffered abuse who knows?).  There is no collective left-wing policy on witch-hunts if anything it is very opposite.

I was merely highlighting that this meme has even now merged into advertisements which is quite an interesting reflection of the current culture.

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Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #440 on: January 13, 2019, 03:19:46 PM »
See how easy it is to split into tribes, and how useless it is to have just "left" and "right" when there's a difference between left and right wing economics and social liberalism vs conservatism?  But +1 internet point for caring about it when there's an opportunity to say "aha!  I don't see all feminists wanting to seize the means of production! Gotcha!"

You said 'the left' not me. How do you know this person is left wing?

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Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #441 on: January 13, 2019, 06:36:43 PM »
People like this man - https://twitter.com/AlexParvenu/status/1083853137038008325 do have a point about the hairy face mangina feminists you get these days.

Goes without saying that Robin Ince has let himself go.

Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #442 on: January 13, 2019, 06:55:10 PM »
Forget it, I'm wrong, you win, carry on.

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« Reply #443 on: January 13, 2019, 06:56:09 PM »
People like this man - https://twitter.com/AlexParvenu/status/1083853137038008325 do have a point about the hairy face mangina feminists you get these days.

Goes without saying that Robin Ince has let himself go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIhKuKodyMQ

I do not believe he wanted to wear the shirt of a cunt. He wanted to wear a shirt that isn't the shirt of a cunt.

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Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #444 on: January 13, 2019, 07:11:08 PM »
Answers on the back of a CaB post for which part of the world that particular white man built pls.

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Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #445 on: January 13, 2019, 07:13:08 PM »
Answers on the back of a CaB post for which part of the world that particular white man built pls.

A shed in Nuneaton.

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Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #446 on: January 13, 2019, 07:29:43 PM »
Give him some credit. He might have done something profound like inventing Cilit Bang.

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« Reply #447 on: January 13, 2019, 07:36:55 PM »
Forget it, I'm wrong, you win, carry on.

Oh come on, nobody is winning.  It probably has got lost in the wider point about why the purple haired lady is left-wing but if she is behaving as you describe then she doesn't seem to me to be a very nice person and I do have sympathy with your predicament.  Obviously this form of asserting oneself is a shitty one, it's just doesn't belong to the left, I mean how many right-wing shits have we seen on youtube asking to see managers to get <insert brown person here> fired.  It's not dignified from any economic position.

Again i'm just pointing out that creating outrage at lefty/SWP types is a business model and as such it isn't a very reliable one......look at people like Sargon a twat from nowhere can make a name and living for himself appealing to the egos of sexually frustrated white menchilds and channelling it into some hatred of lefties.  I am absolutely with Freud on this one it is massively about sex and women, and the fact that it is should tell you that "woman" as a property, that is proposed to be slipping the hand of these men, tells you we do not have anywhere near equality.  When that is solved and purple haired cry babies are still crying about things then such we can direct resources there.

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Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #448 on: January 13, 2019, 10:34:18 PM »
It probably has got lost in the wider point about why the purple haired lady is left-wing but if she is behaving as you describe then she doesn't seem to me to be a very nice person and I do have sympathy with your predicament.

Yeah, apologies for not making that clear myself.

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Re: Becoming more right wing as you age
« Reply #449 on: January 14, 2019, 11:56:41 AM »
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/panel-suggests-stop-warning-about-cholesterol-in-food-201502127713

Just as eating fat doesn't make it clog up in your arteries, cholesterol that you eat doesn't go and live in your blood.

So, those egg council creeps got to you too eh?