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Surviving R Kelly
« on: January 06, 2019, 09:37:48 PM »
There's been a few documentaries about the Pied Piper of R&B, especially over the past year, but this is probably the best and most comprehensive of the bunch. It's the OJ: Made In America of R Kelly documentaries. There are 6 episodes, covering his childhood, his rise to success, through all phases of his predatory behaviour, from lurking around his old high school to marrying Aaliyah to the piss tape to his current sex cult situation. There are interviews with a lot of people close to him, including his ex-wife, his brothers, several of his victims, his former staff and those involved in attempting to bring him to justice.

It's shocking, bleak and gripping, all that good stuff. Once again showing just how baffling it is that he not only got away with so much, but continues to get away with so much more. Episode 5 really raises the stakes as one of the victim's mothers attempts to save her from the clutches of the angel-voiced nonce. Will she succeed? Watch and find out!

Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2019, 09:53:33 PM »
The title is confusing.

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2019, 10:22:38 PM »
What's an "R Kelly"?

Can I eat it?

Is it harmful?

Should I care?

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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2019, 10:27:51 PM »
What's an "R Kelly"?

It's what a mum from Liverpool calls her daughter, I think.

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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2019, 10:32:47 PM »
It's what a mum from Liverpool calls her daughter, I think.

I see and what does "R Kelly" have to say about this?

Probably too busy making crap music and raking in the moneys to give a flying hoot, I should imagine.  Kids today.

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2019, 07:32:31 AM »
There's been a few documentaries about the Pied Piper of R&B, especially over the past year, but this is probably the best and most comprehensive of the bunch. It's the OJ: Made In America of R Kelly documentaries. There are 6 episodes, covering his childhood, his rise to success, through all phases of his predatory behaviour, from lurking around his old high school to marrying Aaliyah to the piss tape to his current sex cult situation. There are interviews with a lot of people close to him, including his ex-wife, his brothers, several of his victims, his former staff and those involved in attempting to bring him to justice.

It's shocking, bleak and gripping, all that good stuff. Once again showing just how baffling it is that he not only got away with so much, but continues to get away with so much more. Episode 5 really raises the stakes as one of the victim's mothers attempts to save her from the clutches of the angel-voiced nonce. Will she succeed? Watch and find out!

I'm going to watch this and be really sad when it renders Trapped In The Closet (legit one of my favourite comedy creations in history, whether intentional or not) as unwatchable again in the future. I had/have no idea about the depths of his depravity.

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2019, 10:00:32 AM »
Where is this available to watch? I’ve been keen to see this.

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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2019, 10:17:39 AM »
I'm going to watch this and be really sad when it renders Trapped In The Closet (legit one of my favourite comedy creations in history, whether intentional or not) as unwatchable again in the future. I had/have no idea about the depths of his depravity.

The documentary touches on how Trapped In The Closet was a clever PR move to reinvent him as a lovable eccentric. It certainly worked for a while.

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2019, 10:17:52 AM »
Does this documentary also cover those of us who listened to his recent 10 minute single?

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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2019, 10:33:34 AM »
Does this documentary also cover those of us who listened to his recent 10 minute single?

It was 19 minutes and does cover that, yes.

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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2019, 10:41:06 AM »
Jesus, the dramatic music in this doco is almost unbearable - very tacky/American tabloid.

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2019, 10:52:36 AM »
Trapped in the closet stuck in my head now. That R Kelly - what a dilbert!

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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2019, 11:46:53 AM »
Here's R. Kelly recruiting girls during a concert in Ethiopia https://youtu.be/lVthudlQagk

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2019, 11:56:59 AM »
Trapped on the closet...with two 14 year old girls.


I've been watching this too and there's clearly no coming back from it. Its weird to see is essentially a 6 part prosecution of a contemporary public figure that's still alive 'n this way though, can't think of anything remotely like it.

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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2019, 12:51:05 PM »
Where is this available to watch? I’ve been keen to see this.

Seconded. Someone spill the beans, please.

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2019, 01:17:20 PM »
It was 19 minutes and does cover that, yes.

Christ to both parts of that.

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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2019, 02:33:26 PM »
What site are you sexy people watching this on?

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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2019, 10:20:54 PM »
It's refreshing seeing the amount of soul searching by his fans.

With Kelly, Allen etc you really can't seperate the art from the artist because their art is about their infatuation with girls

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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2019, 03:25:01 PM »
Seconded. Someone spill the beans, please.

anyone wanting a legit view, Crime + Investigation Network is showing it over here next month

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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2019, 10:34:26 PM »
Georgia police have launched a criminal investigation against Robert, as a direct result of this doc http://tmz.com/#!2019/01/08/r-kelly-criminal-investigation-georgia-lifetime-surviving-docuseries/

Today’s his birthday too. HB bbz!

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« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2019, 08:06:59 AM »
I'm still not loving the tabloid nature of the production for this series but I just watched episode 4 and that was a powerful, infuriating piece of telly. Between his ex-wife alluding to the extent of the physical abuse she suffered, to the child porn trial ending the way it did, to the explanation of his cult-like house and the various abuses (starving people!) there... It's just staggering he's been allowed to get away with all this for so long.

Also, his older brother makes me want to punch my television. As did the juror from the child porn case who admitted he didn't pay attention to the women because he didn't like the way they dressed. Fuck I hope this documentary results in him facing some actual justice.

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2019, 03:04:31 PM »
Finished watching this yesterday.
It seemed to come to the conclusion that black people were to blame for not telling R Kelly off sufficiently to stop him noncin’, starvin’ and abusin’ girls.

Could it not be because of his ties with the “black superstars” that he’s always photographed with and making music with?

Blackmail for instance?

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2019, 02:44:36 AM »
well this has made me feel angry and nauseous.
boggles the mind that he's still not in jail. all his pop star mates must have known what was going on, just like for Weinstein. the documentary was a little too tabloid-y of course (the music, the editing), but regardless of that it was a necessary thing to do. it must have taken for these girls great courage to talk about what happened to them.
I should take a break from this true crime stuff, good old suicidal thoughts are creeping in again.

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« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2019, 03:48:17 AM »
I've no time for Robert (as I insist we call him) but I couldn't make it ten minutes into the documentary. Sensational American TV show style, sound effects, dramatic music, ho hum.

I'm interested in seeing Leaving Neverland.

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« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2019, 12:19:40 PM »
Finished watching this yesterday.
It seemed to come to the conclusion that black people were to blame for not telling R Kelly off sufficiently to stop him noncin’, starvin’ and abusin’ girls.

Could it not be because of his ties with the “black superstars” that he’s always photographed with and making music with?

Blackmail for instance?

What about the white superstars?

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2019, 02:22:32 PM »
What about the white superstars?

I think they've all jumped ship (with the cash) and denounced him already.
I was thinking of JayZee (or whatever the daft cunt calls himself), et al.

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« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2019, 02:26:32 PM »
There should be a running joke on a Shameless-type TV show where a mum and dad refer to their daughter as "Our Kelly". Has this been done?

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2019, 04:15:00 PM »
There should be a running joke on a Shameless-type TV show where a mum and dad refer to their daughter as "Our Kelly". Has this been done?

Johnny Briggs did it.  Well okay then it was actually “Our Rita” they did, but they said it in a knowing way, as if they were actually thinking of R Kelly and they were like “bet he’d be noncin’ round this town if it wasn’t a kids’ show”.

Sly wink to the adults in the audience, y’know.

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2019, 10:00:11 AM »
R Kelly was interviewed by Gayle King for CBS. It's hilariously pathetic from what I've seen, he's crying, screaming, staring into the camera pleading with the audience to believe him. He's a broken man who is most certainly facing a hefty prison sentence, so it's fair to say this documentary did some great work.

This photo is particularly enjoyable: