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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2019, 03:18:23 PM »
Eagerly awaiting the autotuned version of that interview.

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2019, 04:08:06 PM »
Here's the interview, gets bonkers at around 6 mins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07yZF2lM1y0

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2019, 04:19:34 PM »
Here's the interview, gets bonkers at around 6 mins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07yZF2lM1y0

What a truly pathetic performance.  I've got a moderate understanding of body language and it should come as absolutely no surprise when I say that the lying signals were off the chart throughout.  If you must absolutely insist upon being a deceitful and loathsome snake, then at least do some research on the basics of body language first.  Nodding when he's denying and shaking his head when he's affirming; that's incongruous-body-language-101.  What a great big, stonking idiot.

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2019, 06:49:39 PM »
What a truly pathetic performance.  I've got a moderate understanding of body language and it should come as absolutely no surprise when I say that the lying signals were off the chart throughout.  If you must absolutely insist upon being a deceitful and loathsome snake, then at least do some research on the basics of body language first.  Nodding when he's denying and shaking his head when he's affirming; that's incongruous-body-language-101.  What a great big, stonking idiot.

Yeah he really should have watched some of the numerous videos on YouTube analysing police interrogations and explaining how they know when you're fibbing because that was one of the worst attempts at seeming convincing I've ever seen.

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2019, 07:15:52 PM »
...that was one of the worst attempts at seeming convincing I've ever seen.

Even worse than your avatar-sake, Ron Hayward, in fact.

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2019, 10:11:04 PM »
The R in R Kelly stands for Rape, yeah?

I mean he does what he says on the tin, at least.  The tin of his name.

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« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2019, 11:02:35 PM »
The R in R Kelly stands for Rape, yeah?

I mean he does what he says on the tin, at least.  The tin of his name.

Do we know if he ever raped a Kelly?  Because naming your kid Rape Kelly is just asking for trouble.

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2019, 11:04:01 PM »
Do we know if he ever raped a Kelly?

That would be very meta of him wouldn’t it.

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« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2019, 11:07:36 PM »
The R in R Kelly stands for Rape, yeah?

I mean he does what he says on the tin, at least.  The tin of his name.

So the R in his name stands for Ronseal now?

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2019, 12:30:37 AM »
So the R in his name stands for Ronseal now?

They all need Ronsealing by the time... etc.

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #40 on: March 07, 2019, 11:01:02 AM »
R Kelly’s actual name is Ron Seal.

But the R in R Kelly stands for Rape.

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2019, 11:12:30 AM »
With the MJ stuff distracting everyone, is there a danger Our Kelly slips off his handcuffs and hotfoots it down an alley while we're all arguing and shouting at each other?

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« Reply #42 on: March 07, 2019, 11:18:18 AM »
With the MJ stuff distracting everyone, is there a danger Our Kelly slips off his handcuffs and hotfoots it down an alley while we're all arguing and shouting at each other?

It's only this forum that seems to have very little interest in the R Kelly story. Shame really, as this nonce is actually still alive and justice could be coming.

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« Reply #43 on: March 07, 2019, 11:39:40 AM »
Here's the interview, gets bonkers at around 6 mins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07yZF2lM1y0

Watching that escalate, from five minutes in, is riveting.

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #44 on: March 07, 2019, 06:21:53 PM »
The most surprising tidbit of that interview is that R Kelly keeps a Christmas tree in his apartment (in Trump Tower) all year round to remind him of his dead mother because it was her favourite holiday. I’ve also been keeping my christmas tree out throughout this year but only because I am too lazy to take it down. I am a little rustled and perturbed by this shared detail we have in common but alas my laziness, I cannot do anything to take down the christmas tree.

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #45 on: March 07, 2019, 07:38:24 PM »
The most surprising tidbit of that interview is that R Kelly keeps a Christmas tree in his apartment (in Trump Tower) all year round to remind him of his dead mother because it was her favourite holiday.

He'd probably do better to remember and repect his Mother by not raping women.  I think that she would've preferred that to a manky old Christmas tree.

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #46 on: March 07, 2019, 08:14:06 PM »
Other notorious celebrity paedophile Jimmy Savile was of course a bit weird about his mum, keeping her bedroom exactly as it was when she was alive and having her clothes dry cleaned once a year.

My criminal profiling skills lead me to conclude that if a celebrity likes their mum then they are definitely a nonce.

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« Reply #47 on: March 07, 2019, 08:35:38 PM »
Other notorious celebrity paedophile Jimmy Savile was of course a bit weird about his mum, keeping her bedroom exactly as it was when she was alive and having her clothes dry cleaned once a year.

My criminal profiling skills lead me to conclude that if a celebrity likes their mum then they are definitely a nonce.

Joking aside, I always suspected that Savile was in a sexual relationship with his Mother, since a young age and possibly, up until her death.  Peadophiles are often people who were sexually abused themselves as children and there seemed to be some kind of weird Norman Bates thing going on between Savile and his Mother (the recent Michael Jackson documentary also showed us that whilst the victims do hate their abuser, they also still have an immense sense of love for them, even as adults and long after their death).

The fact that Savile was also known to be a necrophiliac leads me to some rather dark conclusions as to where that particular fetish may have originated from (thank you for all that you've done, Mr. Mortician.  Could I have 15 minutes alone with my Mother, please?  You know to say goodbye")

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #48 on: March 07, 2019, 08:56:08 PM »
The fact that Savile was also known to be a necrophiliac leads me to some rather dark conclusions as to where that particular fetish may have originated from (thank you for all that you've done, Mr. Mortician.  Could I have 15 minutes alone with my Mother, please?  You know to say goodbye")

My word the mind boggles. When I've had relatives die I've had to go and look at them in their coffin with the lid off (it appears to be an Irish Catholic thing, as most people I've told about this say they've never done it themselves) and it seems to be the policy that you can go and look at them for as long as you want in the room by yourself. Well maybe not as long as you want, but definitely enough time to do it a few times if you're a premature ejaculator. As it was I wanted to get the heck out of there asap, it just seemed fucking weird. Stand there for a few minutes so family members waiting outside wouldn't be like "Well you weren't in there very long! Didn't you like your grandad or something?!" then scarper. Sorted.

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« Reply #49 on: March 07, 2019, 09:04:37 PM »
Joking aside, I always suspected that Savile was in a sexual relationship with his Mother, since a young age and possibly, up until her death.  Peadophiles are often people who were sexually abused themselves as children and there seemed to be some kind of weird Norman Bates thing going on between Savile and his Mother (the recent Michael Jackson documentary also showed us that whilst the victims do hate their abuser, they also still have an immense sense of love for them, even as adults and long after their death).

The fact that Savile was also known to be a necrophiliac leads me to some rather dark conclusions as to where that particular fetish may have originated from (thank you for all that you've done, Mr. Mortician.  Could I have 15 minutes alone with my Mother, please?  You know to say goodbye")

Wait, was he a necrophiliac? I didn't think that had turned out to be true.

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« Reply #50 on: March 07, 2019, 09:16:13 PM »
My word the mind boggles. When I've had relatives die I've had to go and look at them in their coffin with the lid off (it appears to be an Irish Catholic thing, as most people I've told about this say they've never done it themselves) and it seems to be the policy that you can go and look at them for as long as you want in the room by yourself. Well maybe not as long as you want, but definitely enough time to do it a few times if you're a premature ejaculator.

That's one way of looking at it; that he could have done it if he was quick enough about it.  However, don't forget that this is Jimmy Savile that we're talking about.  It's well established that he would get his own way regardless, due to his influence and power.  Staff at hospitals/morgues were told to let Savile go into the morgue unattended and not to bother him, even though this was on occasions where he didn't even have any deceased relatives in the morgue.

Therefore I doubt that Savile requesting that he be allowed to be left alone with his Mother's corpse for an inordinate amount of time would result in anyone daring to object.  Grizzly thought, hey?

Wait, was he a necrophiliac? I didn't think that had turned out to be true.

Well, it never been proven but then again, his sexual abuse of children was never "proven", technically speaking.  It's more than likely true though, I reckon...

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On one night in the 1970s, a night porter saw Savile wheeling the dead body of a child into the morgue.

Another witness, a former therapist at the hospital, said he had been told Savile had been seen "trying to have sexual intercourse with dead bodies in the hospital mortuary"

A former nurse told investigators how she was warned not to go down to the morgue if the "pink-haired man is there".

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Dr Sue Proctor, who led the investigation into Savile's abuse at the LGI, told a press conference Savile claimed that large rings he wore were "made from the glass eyes of dead bodies at the mortuary".


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Investigators heard the entertainer claimed to have "interfered with the bodies of deceased patients" at the LGI mortuary, while a patient of Barnet General Hospital overheard nurses discussing how they had seen Savile have sex with a dead body at another hospital.

The Leeds team said while there was no way of proving Savile interfered with the bodies in this way, they concluded that "it is evident his interest in the mortuary was not within accepted boundaries".

While she said the allegations cannot be verified now, Dr Proctor said they had to be considered in the context that the controls around access to the mortuary in the 1980s were "lax".

Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #51 on: March 07, 2019, 09:18:28 PM »
With Savile any clues were just bantz. With MJ there was a front of childhood innocence. But with R Kelly dude was obvious. If you were a fan of RnB in the 90s and 2000s you knew he married Aaliyah when she was 15 as well as writing the song, 'Age ain't nothing but a fucking number'. Also it's weird that Missy Elliot and Timbaland have had little to say on the situation.

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« Reply #52 on: March 07, 2019, 09:50:51 PM »
The author of that book on Saville (In Plain Sight) speculates that his obsession with death might have started in childhood, when his family lived across the road from an old folk's home.

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Here was a solitary child who did not spend much time playing with kids his own age. Sometimes he would head into town to the cinema but more often than not he whiled away the hours outside school in the corridors and wards of the St Joseph’s Home for the Aged across the road from the house. Vince Savile was a trustee of the home which was run by the Little Sisters of the Poor, an order of nuns that Jimmy Savile continued fund-raising for long after they had been forced from their premises on Consort Terrace.

St Joseph’s, I suspect, was where the seeds of his fixation with death were sown. ‘They were always dying,’ he said of the elderly residents in our first interview. ‘I’d ask, “Where’s Mrs so and so?” and one of the nuns would tell me that she’d died. Then they’d say, “Why don’t you go downstairs and say goodbye to her?”’ He claimed to have enjoyed getting to ride in the hearse for the funerals.

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« Reply #53 on: March 07, 2019, 10:16:12 PM »
Yeah I wasn't  trying to argue about whether it was proven, I just wasn't sure it had been substantiated. I thought I remembered Louis saying (on a podcast I guess) that Savile having "interfered with bodies" didn't actually mean sexually, but it is only a vague memory so perhaps I am making it up.

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #54 on: March 08, 2019, 05:37:24 PM »
What a truly pathetic performance.  I've got a moderate understanding of body language and it should come as absolutely no surprise when I say that the lying signals were off the chart throughout.  If you must absolutely insist upon being a deceitful and loathsome snake, then at least do some research on the basics of body language first.  Nodding when he's denying and shaking his head when he's affirming; that's incongruous-body-language-101.  What a great big, stonking idiot.

No tears either, not a drop. Dead giveaway.

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« Reply #55 on: March 08, 2019, 07:21:33 PM »
No tears either, not a drop. Dead giveaway.

Made me laugh at 6 minutes in, when he asks what camera he's on, so he can deliver his rant directly to camera, and then within seconds of him starting to shout, they immediately cut to a different camera behind him.

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« Reply #56 on: March 10, 2019, 05:06:45 PM »
SNL parodied the interview last night, plenty of good gags in there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAtvxFFsoeg

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #57 on: March 11, 2019, 01:37:13 PM »
New video tape has been "found"...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47520029

Obviously it's quite clear that this bloke just happened to have an RKelly sex tape in a box of old videos that of course he'd never watched given to him by a mate he didn't remember...

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Ms Allred said Mr Dennis had no personal connection to the R&B singer and had "no idea" how or when he came to possess the videotape, adding that friends had given him tapes of sporting events in the past.

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"It is not him. The larger question is what the authorities are doing about the Dennis' possession of what they believe is child pornography in their tape collection."

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Re: Surviving R Kelly
« Reply #58 on: March 11, 2019, 03:14:20 PM »
SNL parodied the interview last night, plenty of good gags in there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAtvxFFsoeg

That's great.