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Jockice

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The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« on: January 11, 2019, 04:41:46 PM »
Go on, do your worst. Personally I think Denim were better.

Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2019, 04:42:55 PM »
How very dare you.  I Spy is one of my favourite things ever.

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Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2019, 04:43:27 PM »
Ooh, ooh - I'll go :

Something beginning with . . . P

Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2019, 04:44:21 PM »
Is it... Philistine?

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Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2019, 04:49:32 PM »
Ooh, so close!

The answer was . . . pencil

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Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2019, 05:00:13 PM »
No, but I can't imagine ever feeling the need to hear Different Class again.

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Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2019, 05:04:12 PM »
I used to love Pulp to pieces but find myself rarely revisiting them these days, if I do it tends to be b-sides, His N Hers and This Is Hardcore. Oh, and Underwear from Different Class. That gets me right randy.

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Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2019, 05:06:04 PM »
I have to report that I have never enjoyed the music of Pulp.

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Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2019, 05:09:57 PM »
I used to love Pulp to pieces but find myself rarely revisiting them these days
Same here. They were my first favourite band, but they got superceded by Mansun at some point.
No, but I can't imagine ever feeling the need to hear Different Class again.
I'd understand, if you'd have said This is Hardcore instead. Different Class, though?!

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Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2019, 05:12:35 PM »
Different Class I never really got into. Yeah, the singles are very much classics, and I like the last two tracks a lot, but overall it's overlong and horribly produced. It's a long time since I actually listened to the last three Pulp albums, though: they feel a little too 'perfect' to me, to the extent that I find them a bit dull. There are exceptions ('This is Hardcore', 'Wickerman'), but overall there's a polish and smoothness to both the songwriting and production that makes them sound strangely dull to me. The earlier stuff, although nowhere near as accomplished, holds my interest more. It is a charmingly naive indie-pop record with a few really lovely songs on it (although the earlier Peel Session version of 'Wishful Thinking' makes the album version seem somewhat inadequate); Freaks is terrible, but Masters of the Universe (helpfully collected as a second disc on recent issues of Freaks) is a wonderfully odd collection, with some really great songs ('Little Girl With Blue Eyes', 'Dogs Are Everywhere', 'The Mark of the Devil', even the bonkers The Fall-go-krautrock of 'Tunnel'), the mixture of folk and acid house sides on Separations is excellent, and His 'n' Hers is everything I actually want Pulp to be. I need to get a copy of the 2CD version of that as they're a band I've never really explored the b-sides of before...

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Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2019, 05:14:40 PM »
Babies, Razzmatazz, Lipgloss - the best pop music of its time. Love them.

Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2019, 05:16:00 PM »
I'd understand, if you'd have said This is Hardcore instead. Different Class, though?!

To be honest, I barely ever go back to Different Class myself. The singles are worn out (with possible exception of Something Changed), but I have a lot of time for I Spy.

His 'n' Hers is everything I actually want Pulp to be.

Yeah - my favourite album by far.  Even the singles like Lipgloss and Babies just don't get old.

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Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2019, 05:17:03 PM »
Ooh yeah, some of their best are still only available on Intro, aren't they? Razzmatazz deserves wider circulation than that.

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Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2019, 05:19:08 PM »
I'm sure I've said it before, but it's strange that This Is Hardcore is considered the difficult, dark album, when Different Class had songs, like I Spy and Feeling Called Love, that are just as sleazy as anything on the follow up record.

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Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2019, 05:20:51 PM »
Remove the title track, 'Seductive Barry' and possibly 'The Fear' and This is Hardcore is a pretty straightforward Pulp album.

Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2019, 05:21:08 PM »
When I first heard Babies I got very excited. Me and my girlfriend played it a lot so after that all went wrong I didn't really play it again. At the time though I rushed out to buy His n Hers and played it to death. I really soon lost interest though, don't know why, just other things to listen to I suppose, and didn't like Common People so didn't bother with Different Class. Can't say I ever listen to them now.

Babies is great though. She did have babies you know, but not with me.

Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2019, 05:35:04 PM »
Back in the day I remember seeing an billboard advert for this is Hardcore, and some local Millie Tant had sprayed 'This image degrades women'



And I thought, yeah, it does doesn't it?

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Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2019, 05:55:42 PM »
I always thought these were very similar


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Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2019, 06:04:07 PM »
When I first heard Babies I got very excited. Me and my girlfriend played it a lot so after that all went wrong I didn't really play it again. At the time though I rushed out to buy His n Hers and played it to death. I really soon lost interest though, don't know why, just other things to listen to I suppose, and didn't like Common People so didn't bother with Different Class. Can't say I ever listen to them now.

Babies is great though. She did have babies you know, but not with me.

My experience too, though for me "Do you remember the first time" was the catalyst, as I think it was for many people. They felt like my secret interest at His n Hers, but Different class elevated them into a, er, different class of public fame and notoriety, and they ceased to be mine, and I've never been that into them since, but all the singles are worth hearing, and I liked the eco stuff like "Trees" off the last album.

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Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2019, 06:07:40 PM »
As the only Pulp fan at school (as far as I knew) they still felt like an outsider thing to me, even though Cocker was a regular fixture on telly around that time.

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Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2019, 06:14:10 PM »
Relaxed Muscle were better

Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2019, 06:14:58 PM »
My experience too, though for me "Do you remember the first time" was the catalyst, as I think it was for many people.

Had my iPod on shuffle earlier and DYRTFT came on.
Genuinely haven't heard it in years and it still sounds amazing.

Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2019, 06:20:51 PM »
If you don’t like Pulp you’re basically John Major.

Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2019, 06:27:12 PM »
Work's even better in John Major's voice


Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2019, 06:36:55 PM »
Early Pulp is fucking excellent, I love going back listening to stuff like " My Lighthouse ", top stuff that is. Fucking " Dogs are Everywhere " is a fucking excellent song, stone cold classic, so it is.

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Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2019, 07:18:25 PM »
Jarvis has just been on Channel 4 News at a conference calling for a second Brexit referendum. Sad to say it came across as a bit embarrassing. Like he was trying to be funny but not succeeding.

Pulp were bollocks anyway.

Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2019, 07:25:03 PM »
I never listenwd to erier stuff than Babies either. Perhaps I should. I bought the 12"with Sheffield Sex City on it, that was good too.

Some top boy shouted "Oi Jarvis!" at me back then too. As if I was that stylish. Didn't even have glasses.

Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2019, 07:37:22 PM »
That tabloid headline reminds me, I attended a Pulp themed club night in Glasgow a couple of years ago where everyone got a goodie bag featuring one of these:
 


Only contained sherbet, sadly.

Relaxed Muscle were better

Unfairly neglected anyway. That album's full of belters, not least "Sexualised".

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Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2019, 08:13:15 PM »
Jarvis has just been on Channel 4 News at a conference calling for a second Brexit referendum. Sad to say it came across as a bit embarrassing. Like he was trying to be funny but not succeeding.
I find him embarrassing a lot of the time. Watching footage of him in the '90s, he seemed pretty witty, but since he's become a bit of an arty National Treasure I just find he seems a bit out of his depth and, frankly, boring.

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Re: The "Pulp were bollocks, weren't they" thread
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2019, 08:16:41 PM »
Babies, Razzmatazz, Lipgloss - the best pop music of its time. Love them.

Absolutely! I'm going to add My Legendary Girlfriend.   Pulp got me through some lean times in '92/ '93.. Delivering free newspapers in the pissing rain around Camden Town with Separations on my dodgy Discman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuoeenK4RVM



Was browsing through my old stub collection only this week. This was my second Pulp gig. Me and a mate said hello to Jarvis striding through Soho Square in the mid-afternoon before the event and he was in a right panic because Elastica had just pulled out the support slot.
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