Author Topic: Charity stream hosted to spite transphobic tosser Graham Linehan [split topic]  (Read 110525 times)

Linehan's off on one again. I think the latest rants may have been triggered by someone being inspired to raise money for Mermaids and everyone deciding to thank Graham because his bigotry inspired the fundraising. So #thanksgraham is trending and among other things Linehan this morning decided to post this to Twitter

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Folks, In the same way that you don’t tell anorexic kids they need liposuction, you don’t tell vulnerable kids with feelings of dysphoria that they need surgery and drugs. You certainly don't tell them fairy stories about being "born in the wrong body".

"Fairy stories"

Fucking hell.

The tragic thing is... That's true. You don't, and shouldn't. It's a complicated and messy and delicate subject. Which is why it's not greatly helpful for the writer of The IT Crowd to spend 24/7 stomping through it with his heavy-soled Twitter boots and the unwavering confidence of a massive twat.

Graham's on RTE2 on Tuesday, finally televising his nuanced and well-developed expertise on the subject.

It's calling the issue fairy stories that really shows his thinking.

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It's calling the issue fairy stories that really shows his thinking.

Yes.  Yes, it does.  Fuck him.

Presumably Mermaids doesn't tell kids with dysphoria that they need surgery and drugs? At least not without having done extensive reviews and counselling? Besmirching a charity like that is probably worse than the "fairy story" line for me, though it is a close call

Linehan's off on one again. I think the latest rants may have been triggered by someone being inspired to raise money for Mermaids and everyone deciding to thank Graham because his bigotry inspired the fundraising. So #thanksgraham is trending and among other things Linehan this morning decided to post this to Twitter

"Fairy stories"

Fucking hell.

Ahh, is it the hbomberguy charity stream he's responding to? I saw he made a point of specifically calling out Glinner in his announcement video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIM-GKRS9Vk

Presumably Mermaids doesn't tell kids with dysphoria that they need surgery and drugs? At least not without having done extensive reviews and counselling? Besmirching a charity like that is probably worse than the "fairy story" line for me, though it is a close call

you got it. the activities of Mermaids have been repeatedly and obsessively mischaracterised

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Can you expand on this with examples?

look who has crawled out again, having a nice weekend?

it has been reported that they present gender stereotypes as objective science , when in the recording everyone was flapping over they actually say that the gender spectrum charts presented are just stereotypes

they are frequently cited as providing surgery, which they do not, or providing drugs, which reportedly they do not. they're a helpline and support group. a sort of Samaritans for young trans folk. that is all

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I haven't crawled out of anywhere, I post on here fairly regularly as and where I choose. Not sure that criticisms of Mermaids have ever centred on them providing surgery or drugs, but whatever.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2019, 01:57:30 AM by Barry Admin »

whatever indeed

Yes you post fairly regularly to side with with cunts on every single social justice issue despite ostensibly being quite left-wing politically.

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Yes you post fairly regularly to side with with cunts on every single social justice issue despite ostensibly being quite left-wing politically.

A dislike of faux woke alt-centrism and a left wing political outlook align fairly naturally.

I haven't crawled out of anywhere, I post on here fairly regularly as and where I choose - you're confusing me with your mate (Ex poster). Not sure that criticisms of Mermaids have ever centred on them providing surgery or drugs, but whatever.

From Glinner:
"Folks, In the same way that you don’t tell anorexic kids they need liposuction, you don’t tell vulnerable kids with feelings of dysphoria that they need surgery and drugs. You certainly don't tell them fairy stories about being "born in the wrong body".


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From Glinner:
"Folks, In the same way that you don’t tell anorexic kids they need liposuction, you don’t tell vulnerable kids with feelings of dysphoria that they need surgery and drugs. You certainly don't tell them fairy stories about being "born in the wrong body".

That's not accusing them of providing drugs or surgery.

It sounds like something a prick would say.

A dislike of faux woke alt-centrism and a left wing political outlook align fairly naturally.

No that's not it though is it? You doggedly defended harassment group Gamergate for years, many of the supporters of which morphed into the alt-right years later.

Now you seem to be siding with people attacking mermaids, who themselves are largely seem to be quite centrist (glinner) or right-wing people. In fact largely, the kind of people Glinner would have been arguing against during gamergate.

"dislike of faux woke alt-centrism" would be fine, i.e questioning very white middle class feminism, but once again you scrutinise that side, whilst being an apologists for the actual hateful bigots on the other side. You've done it for years.

It's like you're remaining wilfully oblivious to the kind of people you defend, because it's inconvenient. Either that or you just don't care.

« Last Edit: January 20, 2019, 05:07:23 PM by Thursday »


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No that's not it though is it? You doggedly defended harassment group Gamergate for years, many of the supporters of which morphed into the alt-right years later.

Now you seem to be siding with people attacking mermaids, who themselves are largely seem to be quite centrist (glinner) or right-wing people. In fact largely, the kind of people Glinner would have been arguing against during gamergate.

"dislike of faux woke alt-centrism" would be fine, i.e questioning very white middle class feminism, but once again you scrutinise that side, whilst being an apologists for the actual hateful bigots on the other side. You've done it for years.

<Sigh> . Just writing "harassment group Gamergate" doesn't make it a fact, alleged right side of history or not. Must I be 'siding with people attacking Mermaids', who are predominantly so called TERFS, who I wouldn't see as particularly centrist anyway. I would really need to read more about Mermaids, but Susie Green does seem to have a fairly binary view on gender, based on her taking her son to the doctor because he was playing with dolls, and I don't know how I feel about her taking her son to have surgery at such a young age either. It shouldn't be above scrutiny, just like any other organisation that works with children. Nutters have accused me of being some kind of bigot for years - I could care less.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2019, 02:00:14 AM by Barry Admin »

I could care less.

Well now that really is unforgivable.

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(Idiot)
« Last Edit: January 22, 2019, 02:00:53 AM by Barry Admin »

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Fuck all. T'internet actually makes it easier for writers to get their shit out there and get established. It's entirely cultural bias and the fall of former 'greats' that makes it seem like we're 'losing' people.
This is a really, really good point. We feel like we're losing people because we're so accustomed to the idea of there being a handful of heralded figures that create things.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is on the stream HA HA HA

You utter fool, Graham.

Incredible scenes. Meanwhile, LEGEND FEMINIST Linehan is on Twitter calling the London Women's March traitors.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is on the stream HA HA HA

Unbelievable. Grinning from ear to ear

One of the coolest things that has happened in a long time

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At this point, I think the only way back would be for him to have a special event celebrating Twitter's different genders, and then people won't think he's a big transphobe.

Unfortunately, he'd end it by saying 'Trans Women: A Great Bunch of Lads'.

(Apologies if this incredibly obvious joke has already been made)

Unbelievable. Grinning from ear to ear

One of the coolest things that has happened in a long time

Genuinely amazing and heart warming.

Astonishing. Who'd have thought Donkey Kong 64 could do such good for the world?

Grant Kirkhope had already appeared, of course, which is also fantastic.

Get Aphex on! Dril! David Lynch! Everyone!