Charity stream hosted to spite transphobic tosser Graham Linehan [split topic]

[JamesTC]

Imagine being so in love with yourself you can't believe you're ever even slightly mistaken about anything

I mean the levels of insane delusion in this man are really quite frightening

I mean look at something like this: https://twitter.com/Glinner/status/1092528722241048577

There's no ironic self-deprecation there as far as I can tell, just sheer masturbatory lunacy

Some of the replies to that tweet are tremendous.

the only thing your tweets kill are your career

Yes, you are in fact a lifeless, glass-eyed doll, Graham, good observation

[Ballad of Ballard Berkley]

Does Linehan have any actual TV comedy projects on the go at the moment? Is he working on anything, or is this insanity his entire life now? The BBC, Channel 4, Sky, they won't want to touch him with a barge pole, his career must surely be screwed. Which is his own fault for being such a massively bigoted prick, obviously.

Btw, tonight on Channel 4 there's a documentary following various transgender people as they transition. It's entirely sympathetic and responsible. Glinner will almost certainly make disparaging comments about it, he can't help himself.

[phantom_power]

He sees himself as a crusader AND people agree??? I mean, I saw the options, he doesn't even take it seriously and wants to be beyond criticism. Right, that's it, me exuent, I don't want to belong to this society - off into full-blown solipsism I go

What sort of twisted cunt chooses the "also agree" option? I think all that shows is that at least 7% of his followers are fucking nutbars

[ersatz99]

Out of 650k followers that must be quite disappointing for him.

[McFlymo]

This popped up on youtube today: Transphobic utter nonsense. She's basically saying that children are coerced into having medication and surgery by other trans adults (online) and their parents have no control over this, or their transitioning process. As though it's not a journey that a family can share and work through together, but instead some mental illness that is unstoppable or something. Also, she casually mentions that some trans people are autistic, or gay, or bi sexual, or have mental illness, seemingly implying that this should somehow invalidate their right to identify with another gender. I thought there might have been some shred of an argument in there, but it's all just reactionary bullshit from a place of fear. I'm assuming these are the sort of people Linehan is behind. I wouldn't mind taking a big watery shite on top of his head, I must confess.

[jamiefairlie]

Nothing to do with Linehan but an an honest Trans question that I don't know the answer to: for a person who feels they are the opposite sex to the body they have, where is that sex determined? What's the mechanism that creates a male body but a sensation of being female? What actually is feeling female?

Like I say, amidst all the bickering, I've never seen a serious empirical explanation of this phenomenon and I like to understand the how rather than just the what of any given situation.

[St_Eddie]

Nothing to do with Linehan but an an honest Trans question that I don't know the answer to: for a person who feels they are the opposite sex to the body they have, where is that sex determined? What's the mechanism that creates a male body but a sensation of being female? What actually is feeling female?

Good question.  I imagine that it may be an imbalance of testosterone/estrogen, possibly related to how every fetus starts off as a blank slate and is only assigned the XY/XX chromosomes determining the sex of the child, 7 weeks into pregnancy.  I suspect that there can be an hormonal imbalance during that development, which may result in a person who feels that they've been born into the wrong body gender.  This is all just a guess on my part though, as I haven't done any research into it and therefore, as per usual, this theory of mine is probably just a load of uneducated, ignorant nonsense.

[jamiefairlie]

Yeah that's sounds possible. I think though that the xx/xy chromosomes are there at conception but it's only at 7 weeks that the Y chromosome induces the production of testosterone and the male development path begins.

It's an interesting question about sense of sex. I'm a straight man but I can't say I've ever felt male, I've only ever experienced being me so how can I know if my experience of being male is the same as yours? Is there any actual generic feeling of being male or are we all having completely unique experiences?

[St_Eddie]

It's an interesting question about sense of sex. I'm a straight man but I can't say I've ever felt male, I've only ever experienced being me so how can I know if my experience of being male is the same as yours? Is there any actual generic feeling of being male or are we all having completely unique experiences?

I don't know the answer to that but I have always felt a stronger kinship with women than men, generally speaking.  I'm almost certain that my testosterone levels aren't as high as they are in most men.  I don't have a high sex drive (not that women can't or don't have a high sex drive but unlike a lot of men, I enjoy chatting to women who I acknowledge as being attractive, without a feeling of wanting to pursue those feelings and flirt with them).  I have zero interest in one night stands and the like and am much more romantically inclined; only being able to enjoy sex as a part of a loving relationship.  Also, I don't have any kind of macho or competitive side to my personality.

I don't feel that I'm in the wrong body, mind but I don't particularly feel like your typical man, whatever that means but yeah, I certainly don't feel like I should be a woman either.  However, I can certainly imagine that if my inordinately feminine traits were heightened further, how I could potentially feel that way.  Therefore when someone says that they feel that they were born into the wrong body, I can understand how that could be the case.

[phantom_power]

So where are these fearmonging shit-heels getting the stat that 1000 prisoners are going to self-identify as women from? Obviously it sounds like bullshit but usually this sort of thing has an origin

[MojoJojo]

Good question.  I imagine that it may be an imbalance of testosterone/estrogen, possibly related to how every fetus starts off as a blank slate and is only assigned the XY/XX chromosomes determining the sex of the child, 7 weeks into pregnancy.  I suspect that there can be an hormonal imbalance during that development, which may result in a person who feels that they've been born into the wrong body gender.  This is all just a guess on my part though, as I haven't done any research into it and therefore, as per usual, this theory of mine is probably just a load of uneducated, ignorant nonsense.

What you're describing is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex - which is a condition with physically measurable features. Trans people don't have any physical differences, it's all in their head (which isn't to dismiss it), like being homosexual.

Nothing to do with Linehan but an an honest Trans question that I don't know the answer to: for a person who feels they are the opposite sex to the body they have, where is that sex determined? What's the mechanism that creates a male body but a sensation of being female? What actually is feeling female?

As I say it's just something they feel - it's hard to understand what that means as a non-trans person, as it's just part of your identity. Which is why some people have problems being described as "cis".

[DrGreggles]

Nothing to do with Linehan but an an honest Trans question that I don't know the answer to: for a person who feels they are the opposite sex to the body they have, where is that sex determined? What's the mechanism that creates a male body but a sensation of being female? What actually is feeling female?

Like I say, amidst all the bickering, I've never seen a serious empirical explanation of this phenomenon and I like to understand the how rather than just the what of any given situation.

I haven't a fucking clue, mate.
So I wisely avoid the entire debate before I say something wrong or stupid.

Take note Linehan!

[NoSleep]

It's an interesting question about sense of sex. I'm a straight man but I can't say I've ever felt male, I've only ever experienced being me so how can I know if my experience of being male is the same as yours? Is there any actual generic feeling of being male or are we all having completely unique experiences?

Which is why the issue focuses around how you identify. Physically, though, I think there is sliding scale between male and female rather than A or B, with the sex you've been determined at birth being only one factor (I base this on personal observation rather than hard scientific evidence, but I've read some stuff that supports this view along the way). The most interesting difference between the sexes, I think, is the relative size of the corpus callosum between the sexes with this conduit between the left and right brain being much reduced in males.

[Jockice]

This popped up on youtube today: Transphobic utter nonsense. She's basically saying that children are coerced into having medication and surgery by other trans adults (online) and their parents have no control over this, or their transitioning process. As though it's not a journey that a family can share and work through together, but instead some mental illness that is unstoppable or something. Also, she casually mentions that some trans people are autistic, or gay, or bi sexual, or have mental illness, seemingly implying that this should somehow invalidate their right to identify with another gender. I thought there might have been some shred of an argument in there, but it's all just reactionary bullshit from a place of fear. I'm assuming these are the sort of people Linehan is behind. I wouldn't mind taking a big watery shite on top of his head, I must confess.

I used to know her vaguely. She never mentioned any of this stuff to me though.

[phantom_power]

Probably too scared, because of all the silencing and suchlike

[Jockice]

Probably too scared, because of all the silencing and suchlike

I know. I just put a finger to my lips and went: 'Shhh.' That stopped her in her tracks.

[daf]

[gilbertharding]

It's funny, because I think you could make a case for the idea that the modern high-grade grot now easily available to the discerning masturbator has probably done quite a lot for the acceptance of transgender people by that type of person.

[Twed]

He's crossing the concern troll bridge into full-on "I could lead a pack of wankers just like Jordan Peterson" territory.

[daf]

Here's the original . . . I just (ahem) "tickled it up" a bit *

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* He definitely has been guilt-wanking to ladyboy porn, though - no doubt about that!

[Twit 2]

Thought it might interest you lot that he goes to the same coffee shop as my wife and she told me he looks like a broken man. Bear in mind she knows nothing about his Twitter life whatsoever and only vaguely knew who he was when someone in the shop pointed him out.

[Jockice]

The former singer of The Jags (of Back Of My Hand fame) is currently on 24 Hours In A&E on Channel 4. He's now a woman. Not really relevant to Linehan's, but I just felt like telling someone.

[Jockice]

The former singer of The Jags (of Back Of My Hand fame) is currently on 24 Hours In A&E on Channel 4. He's now a woman. Not really relevant to Linehan's nonsense, but I just felt like telling someone.

[Jockice]

Which leads to my anecdote about my mum telling me that The Jam were staying in the hotel she worked in and, realising how popular having Weller, Foxton and Buckler's autographs would make me at school, begged her to get their autographs.

But, guess what, it was actually The Jags!!!!!!

[bigfatheart]

He definitely has been guilt-wanking to ladyboy porn, though - no doubt about that!

His tweets would make a lot more sense if they each contained a 'P.S. I am wanking as I write this'.

[McFlymo]

I used to know her vaguely. She never mentioned any of this stuff to me though.

She seems like an utterly repellent creature. mumsnet in human form.

[Jockice]

She seems like an utterly repellent creature. mumsnet in human form.

When I say vaguely I mean vaguely. I had a couple of dealings with her when I was doing my MA dissertation and (failed) PhD on New Labour's disability policies. She was on the board (or perhaps editor at the time) of Disability And Society academic journal. So I got in touch with her to try and check something. She wasn't particularly helpful.

So that was that. It's not as if we were down the pub together every night. But I'll happily pass on your best wishes if I ever speak to her again.

[Tony Yeboah]

Ardal O'Hanlon seems a bit worried :"I feel for Graham, because I know the kind personality he is and he doesn't let things go. He's a bit obsessive and I don't understand why he has waded into that debate to the extent that he has. I think you can be passionate and outspoken without it getting as personal as it has with him." https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/theatre-arts/comedy/dermot-morgans-death-was-my-wakeup-call-ardal-ohanlon-talks-angst-and-fatherhood-as-he-looks-forward-to-his-latest-standup-tour-37820901.html

[Barry Admin]

Good on him. Meanwhile Linehan is puzzled as to why everyone else doesn't share his obsessions:

Once again, only the gender critical people in my feed talking about
@Martina's brave, game-changing statement yesterday. Everyone else is like

[shit reaction gif]

"Maybe it'll all resolve on its own and I can go on pretending it's not happening".

[another shit reaction gif]

That and O'Hanlons comment make me feel for him, really, despite him being a loathsome bigot. He's a massively obsessive control freak and much of this is above and beyond his own control. I don't like being criticised either, and Linehan's reaction to that episode of The IT Crowd being slated is a stark warning to us all. Bloody hell.

[phantom_power]

Once again only gender critical people in my feed talking about this gender critical thing.