US coup in Venezuela

[bgmnts]

Jeremy Hunt officially recognise Juan Guaido as Venezuelan Interim President.

Absolutely meeeental.

[ZoyzaSorris]

From what I remember the Constitution allows the leader of the 'House' Guaido to assume the role of the President in Constitutional emergencies. In this case Maduro was talking about replacing one-for-one voting with representative voting. That is each segment of society such as pensioners, poor, indigenous etc would get a percentage of representatives proportional to that in reality. Obviously that would suit Maduro.

So the opposition has real concerns but would it really be possible and how far would Maduro go? Guaido has reached for the emergency brake first instead of other options.

No. The Constitution says that in case of the President not being available for duties (due to very specific circumstances like death), firstly the Vice-President can take over, or in the exceptional case the Vice-President is rendered unable then and only then does it pass to the head of the National Assembly. And this is all decided by the Supreme Court (who have said that Guaido is talking shit). Obviously there is no vacancy, we have a president, so the whole thing is nonsense.

[ZoyzaSorris]

My hope is that like in Syria, provided Venezuela holds tight this massive Imperial overreach will actually leave the US weaker in the region. If Venezuela fully migrates out of the grasp of the US financial system and into the parallel structures being developed by Russia, China and Iran to evade US economic warfare, then it has a good chance to rebuild using its rich natural resources. Obviously I hope this all happens without a Syria style proxy war.

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

More depressingly skewed coverage today.

Simon Jenkins managed to outright lie that Venezuela was peaceful and prosperous before Chavez. Extraordinary lieing that he knows his readers won't call him out on.

Managed to describe the Labour Party as "useful idiot Leninists" of course.

However he argues against US intervention.

[KennyMonster]

More depressingly skewed coverage today.

Simon Jenkins managed to outright lie that Venezuela was peaceful and prosperous before Chavez. Extraordinary lieing that he knows his readers won't call him out on.

Managed to describe the Labour Party as "useful idiot Leninists" of course.

However he argues against US intervention.

Simon Jenkins, friend of the 'useless clever Stalinists'.

[bgmnts]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BtA3Ebolt3I/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1fq1wwn77p059

Not great.

[Urinal Cake]

No. The Constitution says that in case of the President not being available for duties (due to very specific circumstances like death), firstly the Vice-President can take over, or in the exceptional case the Vice-President is rendered unable then and only then does it pass to the head of the National Assembly. And this is all decided by the Supreme Court (who have said that Guaido is talking shit). Obviously there is no vacancy, we have a president, so the whole thing is nonsense.

The other circumstance is 'abandonment of duty'. If he becomes a dictator that would be seen as a vacation of his post as elected President as per the Constitution.  Like I said  before Guaido with a push from the USA has gone to the last resort from the start which makes this look ridiculous.

[ZoyzaSorris]

I think you are really reaching there and you know it. Basically there is no sensible interpretation in which the constitution says anything vaguely approaching what Guaido is claiming. The clause is there to explain what to do if there is no president. There is a president.

[Urinal Cake]

I do not know enough about the Venezuelan Constitution to come up with whose interpretation would be correct. Further if Guaido does become President it could be retroactively the 'correct' interpretation.

[ZoyzaSorris]

You seem to be being strangely obtuse on this thread. Deliberate or genuine ignorance?

[biggytitbo]

The predictable social media purge just to make sure the msm can have a total lock on the propaganda, just like the good old days https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/14294

[Urinal Cake]

It's neither. I have enough knowledge of law that I can admit I don't know Spanish and I don't know the intricacies of Venezuelan Civil/Continental Law as opposed to Common Law.

[shh]

My hope is that like in Syria, provided Venezuela holds tight this massive Imperial overreach will actually leave the US weaker in the region. If Venezuela fully migrates out of the grasp of the US financial system and into the parallel structures being developed by Russia, China and Iran to evade US economic warfare, then it has a good chance to rebuild using its rich natural resources. Obviously I hope this all happens without a Syria style proxy war.

You missed out N. Korea from the list of Maduro's well wishers.

Anyway I'm sure all of those countries reciprocate your good wishes.

[biggytitbo]

https://sputniknews.com/amp/society/201902051072126915-Facebook-Blocks-Posting-Cuban-Article-Venezuela-Spam/

[pcsjwgm]

Excellent work from Chris Williamson:
https://www.channel4.com/news/labour-mp-chris-williamson-governments-decision-to-recognise-juan-guaido-is-a-democratic-outrage

[biggytitbo]

The UK have got a bit of a nerve demanding another country hold new elections then recognise some bloke who walked in off the street as its new president, when it can barely function as a democracy itself as the likes of Hunt do their best to reverse an electoral result they don't like.

[Crisps?]

It's a bit of a shame that Venezuela doesn't announce it's recognising Hillary as president of the USA. Trump would explode and Hillaryites, under the pressure of agreeing but having to deny it, would implode

[jobotic]

The UK have got a bit of a nerve demanding another country hold new elections then recognise some bloke who walked in off the street as its new president, when it can barely function as a democracy itself as the likes of Hunt do their best to reverse an electoral result they don't like.

Bravo.

[ZoyzaSorris]

Excellent work from Chris Williamson:
https://www.channel4.com/news/labour-mp-chris-williamson-governments-decision-to-recognise-juan-guaido-is-a-democratic-outrage

Thanks for the link, excellent work from Mr Williamson here, Jon Snow has never been lower in my estimations, what a raging granule of a man (used to think he was vaguely decent).

Thank god for the likes of Chris.

[greenman]

Excellent work from Chris Williamson:
https://www.channel4.com/news/labour-mp-chris-williamson-governments-decision-to-recognise-juan-guaido-is-a-democratic-outrage

That's Snow and C4 news colours nailed to the mast pretty clearly as well, the former especially could really be a posterboy for centralism as a moral vacuum.

[biggytitbo]

It was an absolutely disgraceful interview, but totally par for the course for pretty much all msm coverage.

[biggytitbo]

Very good from medialens - http://www.medialens.org/index.php/alerts/alert-archive/2019/892-venezuela-blitz-part-1-tyrants-don-t-have-free-elections.html

In our new book, we describe a 'Propaganda Blitz' as a fast-moving campaign to persuade the public of the need for 'action' or 'intervention' furthering elite interests. Affecting great moral outrage, corporate media line up to insist that a watershed moment has arrived – something must be done!

A classic propaganda blitz was triggered on January 23, when Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaidó declared himself 'interim President'. This was presented as dramatic new evidence that the people of Venezuela had finally had enough of Nicolas Maduro's 'regime'.

Echoing the BBC's 'amnesty' front page story, the Guardian's Simon Tisdall, also talked up the merits of the coup:

'It seems clear that Juan Guaidó, the opposition leader, has the backing of many if not most Venezuelans.'

A remarkable claim, given that George Ciccariello-Maher reported in The Nation that an opinion poll in Venezuela conducted between January 7-16 had found that 81 per cent of Venezuelans had never heard of Juan Guaidó

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

http://www.brasilwire.com/if-uk-media-wrote-about-the-uk-like-it-does-latin-america/

[NoSleep]

In many respects our press are already reporting UK news in the same way as they report on Venezuela. The big difference is that it's Corbyn getting it in the neck, not May. And it will be worse if Corbyn becomes prime minister.

[ZoyzaSorris]

http://www.brasilwire.com/if-uk-media-wrote-about-the-uk-like-it-does-latin-america/

Ha! Amazing that is from 18 months ago, couldnt be better tailored to the current debacle.

[ZoyzaSorris]

In many respects our press are already reporting UK news in the same way as they report on Venezuela. The big difference is that it's Corbyn is getting it in the neck, not May. And it will be worse if Corbyn becomes prime minister.

But of course this is also true. The propaganda war's primary target will always be domestic opposition.

[Hank Venture]

Just saw a clip of Pompeo saying Hezbollah is active in Venezuela. It's just ... farce.

[Blumf]

Presume they dug some terror tunnels all the way from Gaza

[Hank Venture]

It's really astonishing just how paper-thin the US concern for human roghts can be before the world at large just gets in line behind their «humanitarian» interventions. «Hezbollah in Venezuela? Yeah, that'll do.»

[Flouncer]

Yeah, I suppose they're harboring Spring-heeled Jack as well.